Forums > Windsurfing   Western Australia

Outcome of City of Mandurah Meeting

Reply
Created by hardie > 9 months ago, 8 May 2008
hardie
WA, 4129 posts
8 May 2008 4:02PM
Thumbs Up

I met with the Recreation Officer of the mandurah City Council today and the following is a brief summary of the outcomes.

Firstly the Mandurah WS Fest. He was all for this, will help promote. Got me to focus and committ on dates and length of Fest, so I chose sat 4th of Jan 09 and sun 5th of Jan 09. He wanted a "promotion of exercise" element to it, with an emphasis on bringing new people to the sport. I suggested that the mornings of sat and sun we could provide free lessons tryouts, for kiddies/juniors, and over 30's and over 60's. He was all for this and felt this was very important to Mandurah CC. I also suggested seminars on tuning gear, how to go fast etc, and he also approved.

Re events etc. He wanted details of events, and how they tied into WWA. I said we could use the sat as a gps NM event, and also slalom races towards WWA state title points, pending what WWA need/want etc. The Sun could be the warm up for the WWA L2L with a race across and back of the Peel Estauary about 20kms, with possibly over 100 competitors. He said he also wanted racing as close as possible to spectators. Overall, He seemed happy with these ideas.

Club Incorporation. He was particularly keen for the Mandurah Mob to become a Windsurfing Club, with the promise of funding towards events, and the possibility of funding of facilities/premises in future if it became popular. So I said I would see if people were keen.


We canned the idea of a gear/shop expo for a variety of reasons.

We canned the idea of a swap meet because people spend too much time off the water trying to sell gear.

So whaddyareckon.

elmo
WA, 8874 posts
8 May 2008 6:36PM
Thumbs Up

I know the MCC would like to see a lot but IMOPO is KISS

The more time buggerizing around with a lot of this other stuff equates to less time on the water. Sorry if that sounds selfish.

Lesson and tryout's...how do we stand for personal liability insurance? who is going to do it? who is going to provide the gear?

The Idea of a MM club does have a bit of appeal as then we have a formal voice if there is anything which affects our local spots.

Keep it fun keep it simple

{Edit}

Had a thunk about the dates as well.

Any time in Jan particularly the first couple of weeks is prime Terrorist season down here, MCC may think it's a great show case but the thousands of crabbers both walking and floating the 1/2 a million crab nets and all the weekend warriors who think they own the water cause they have a boat may prove to be a bit hazradous for a an event.

I would think that early December would be a bit better as we avoid the crab hungry hoards of tourists

decrepit
WA, 12776 posts
8 May 2008 7:35PM
Thumbs Up

Well thunked elmo, good points.
The crabbers have always seemed a bit of a worry to me.

Mark _australia
WA, 23486 posts
8 May 2008 8:53PM
Thumbs Up

Be positive. It will be 20-25kn at 1300 and the crabbers will have all bvggered off

oh yeah do we satill have the "have a go at GPS" pencilled in for winter sometime

elmo
WA, 8874 posts
8 May 2008 9:01PM
Thumbs Up

Mark _australia said...

Be positive. It will be 20-25kn at 1300 and the crabbers will have all bvggered off

oh yeah do we satill have the "have a go at GPS" pencilled in for winter sometime


Ya Reckon????

We go barreling down the run doing +60kmh the water looks like murkey coffee, and the Crabbers insist on wading out to where we are doing our runs, No Schit we can have close to 20 dickheads spread out along the run.
Then we have the boats which put out their crab nets, the nice ones use visible floats, unfortunately theres a few of them which like using clear water bottles.

Re the GPS, no probs we'll induct you into the "Dark side"

snides8
WA, 1731 posts
8 May 2008 9:52PM
Thumbs Up

Mark _australia said...

Be positive. It will be 20-25kn at 1300 and the crabbers will have all bvggered off

oh yeah do we satill have the "have a go at GPS" pencilled in for winter sometime


you would think so but no, they dont bugger off- they thin out a bit but they dont leave
i am amazed they can see anything when the water chops up...they must feel them out with their toes!

on the festival front i know the issue is to be out sailing- how ever as we are all well aware sometimes the wind doesn't show up...at all...so a contingency plan should be in place i would of thought..

hardpole
WA, 608 posts
8 May 2008 10:21PM
Thumbs Up

This is a great idea - well done hardie !

(It goes against the grain for me a bit suggesting this) BUT




"its a competition / event - you cant be here if your not a competititor "





You 'fence' of an area and people have to keep clear ! Wave / surfing events do that all the time, why can't other sports.

Perhaps it would only be a matter of a few nautical lollypop men in boats who suggest to any people at risk that they are not safe where they are - depends how many competitors you get I suppose.

I have neve seen anyone in the way at the start of the L2L - its a bit obvious. The finish is a different story.

Or it could be a weekend where windsurfers have a licence to do anything they want ! The keys to the city to anyone who can waterstart. Like the beachs when there are "beware - here be windsurfers" signs and all other beach goers have to watch out and give way (Thats what I always thought those signs meant).

"Racing close to spectators" (sounds like more appropriate to kite forum) ! Lets have no spectators - "everyone participates" would be a nice motto.

<edit>
Better than "everyone participates" my personal one "the person who has the most fun wins"
</edit>

WindsurfingWA
WA, 811 posts
8 May 2008 11:26PM
Thumbs Up

Hi All,
Just a note to clarify a couple of points -
1/ The Lancelin Chamber of Commerce run the Lancelin Ocean Classic (including the Ledge Pt. to Lancelin Marathon), and WWA have historically worked with the organisers to facilitate the running of the wave and slalom components of the event (the bits we are good at).

2/ The insurance WWA has is provided through the AWA to whom WWA pay annual fees. This insurance covers public liability for WWA as an event organising body, and provides members with public liability cover (although this has a member to member exclusion). For example - if your equipment injured a member of the general public, say it blew down the beach and struck and onlooker, the insurance should apply. The cover will not help you if you hit another sailor whilst competing. (Insurance companies don't like the risk of competitive events and insurance to cover every outcome/senario including participation in competition - like belting over very shallow water at significant speeds for example - is extremely expensive)

3/ The suggestion of a Mandurah Club may have some merit. Were the hypothetical MWC affiliated with WWA, it would come under the AWA insurance cover and your membership fees could largely be used to further the Mandurah cause. WWA Affiliation fees (of which the insurance component makes up the vast majority) I believe are about $20 per Club member. Direct WWA membership is currently $50 per annum.

The out clause - the above is just a bit of input from me personally - not an official response from WWA - hopefully it just sets a few things out a bit more clearly.
Regards
Dan

Mark _australia
WA, 23486 posts
9 May 2008 1:18AM
Thumbs Up

hardpole said...


Or it could be a weekend where windsurfers have a licence to do anything they want !



NOW we are on the same page that is a ripper idea

decrepit
WA, 12776 posts
9 May 2008 6:30PM
Thumbs Up

Trouble is closing the beach for a wave comp involves about 200m.
A nautical mile run would need 2km, not sure that would go down as well.

hardpole
WA, 608 posts
9 May 2008 10:49PM
Thumbs Up

decrepit said...

Trouble is closing the beach for a wave comp involves about 200m.
A nautical mile run would need 2km, not sure that would go down as well.


apart from waders / crabbers is there a lot of boats needing to "cross" the course ? I was imagining its a long corridor but most of it is away from the shore.

I just realised there is probably a whole can of worms to do with who is in charge of the water rules.

the only time I have been at hardies it looked pretty clear except for the cats and people wading (and it looked more like the boat would hit the crabber than anything - but I imagine just after xmas would be very busy. you guys would obviously know better about the local conditions.



Subscribe
Reply

Forums > Windsurfing   Western Australia


"Outcome of City of Mandurah Meeting" started by hardie