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SHQ Breakwater to Beacon & Learn to Windsurf 15/01

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Created by WindRider > 9 months ago, 9 Jan 2012
WindRider
QLD, 838 posts
9 Jan 2012 9:58AM
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This Sunday 15th Jan 2012 the SHQ Breakwater to Beacon race will be held. This race is a traditional event for Victoria and has been run for many, many years. This year the event is being run early in the year instead of before Christmas. The reason for this change was to allow for possible better wind, etc.

The race concept is an open event for all windsurfers who can sail long distances. As per the event name we sail from Sandringham Beach (Breakwater left of the Yacht Club), to a mark near Fawkner Beacon and back, about 18kms. Some times with the wind direction this means a up wind leg and downwind leg.

During some races if the wind direction is unusable an alternative mark has been set. This will be determined on the day and presented during the race briefing.

Schedule:
Registration will be in front of the SBHQ Kiosk from 12-2pm
Briefing will be at 2pm
Race Start will be from beach left of breakwater and depending on the weather will be somewhere between 2:30pm and 4pm
BBQ in front of the the SBHQ Kiosk will be after the race.

Note: All race entrants must be a 2011-2012 Windsurfing Victoria member or a AWA registered member via one of the other state bodies or sub-bodies for insurance purposes. WV membership can be made on-live via www.wv.org.au or at the event during registration. WV membership details can be found on the WV website. For all current WV members, it is recommended to present your WV membership card during the registration to help with the registration processing time.

Weather forecasts can be obtained from a variety of sources, for example;
www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/portphillip.shtml
www.seabreeze.com.au/maps/vic.asp

Please stay tune for further details.

In addition SHQ will have the Learn to Windsurf trailer at the event. For more information please refer to SHQ.

See you there.

mathew
QLD, 2143 posts
10 Jan 2012 8:54AM
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I think there will be a problem here... the 2pm race briefing will require you to be rigged before 2pm (or at least gear sprawled all over the place). Which will be somewhat hard to do when beach road will be closed until 2pm, at which point sometime after that the barriers will be removed.


Maybe the race briefing should be at 3pm?

Windsurf0709
VIC, 136 posts
10 Jan 2012 11:02AM
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I thought roads were open again at 11am (after the gatorade triathlon)?

Is there a second triathlon/event on till 2pm?

WindRider
QLD, 838 posts
10 Jan 2012 10:52AM
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mathew said...

I think there will be a problem here... the 2pm race briefing will require you to be rigged before 2pm (or at least gear sprawled all over the place). Which will be somewhat hard to do when beach road will be closed until 2pm, at which point sometime after that the barriers will be removed.


Maybe the race briefing should be at 3pm?


If there is road closures that affects a 2pm attendance, we will delay the briefing to say 3pm.

On the web the roads are expected to be open at about 11am, so we should be ok.

http://www.supersprint.com.au/events/gatorade-triathlon-series-201112/race-4---melbourne-triathlon--sandringham/parking--road-closures.aspx

Windsurf0709
VIC, 136 posts
10 Jan 2012 6:58PM
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So who is planning to do Breakwater to Beacon?

Forecast:
Seabreeze 18 kts ESE
Windguru 7 kts ESE
BoM (too far out to call)

WindRider
QLD, 838 posts
11 Jan 2012 4:54PM
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Windsurf0709 said...

So who is planning to do Breakwater to Beacon?

Forecast:
Seabreeze 18 kts ESE
Windguru 7 kts ESE
BoM (too far out to call)


The latest forecast is a south to Southeast. Maybe a seabreeze. A southery wind is a perfect run to and back from the Beacon.

I'm going to try and get out Saturday afternoon for some practice runs from maybe Hampton. If so I'll post in the Where are you Sailing this Weekend post on Friday, if anyone wants to join in. First I will have to check with the boss about having most of the weekend windsurfing. Maybe use missing out today as an excuse.

K Dog
VIC, 1847 posts
11 Jan 2012 6:02PM
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I might go buy a couple of flares......... (not the pants... already have some brown ones)...

Windsurf0709
VIC, 136 posts
11 Jan 2012 6:40PM
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Good idea. I bought flares once - little ones the size of a ball point (was after breaking mast about 1.5 km off shore in a NE at green point) they lasted a few years. After that I just decided to stop sailing in offshore winds in the middle of winter!

Windsurf0709
VIC, 136 posts
11 Jan 2012 6:49PM
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Latest forecast:
BoM: SE 10-15, increasing to 10-20 in arvo
Seabreeze: S 8
Windguru: S 10

WindRider
QLD, 838 posts
11 Jan 2012 8:03PM
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Windsurf0709 said...

Latest forecast:
BoM: SE 10-15, increasing to 10-20 in arvo
Seabreeze: S 8
Windguru: S 10


Could be big gear nearly straight out and back ready for a BBQ afterwards

Acker
VIC, 89 posts
12 Jan 2012 12:28PM
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Windguru will rarely capture a seabreeze in it's forecast as it pulls data straight from a global weather model. This model is far too coarse to pickup seabreeze effects.

It'll pick up main synoptic flows (northerlies, westerlies, fronts etc), but not seabreezes.

As a rule of thumb, if it looks like a seabreeze day with no northerly or other synoptic flow in the way, multiply windguru by 1.5-2 to get what the true seabreeze will be (dependent on cloud cover).
So for a typical seabreeze day, windguru will often say 10knots, but the real one will be 15-20knots if sunny or partly cloudy.

Gorgo
VIC, 5113 posts
12 Jan 2012 2:21PM
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mathew said...

I think there will be a problem here... the 2pm race briefing will require you to be rigged before 2pm (or at least gear sprawled all over the place). Which will be somewhat hard to do when beach road will be closed until 2pm, at which point sometime after that the barriers will be removed.


Maybe the race briefing should be at 3pm?


http://www.supersprint.com.au/events/gatorade-triathlon-series-201112/race-3---brighton/parking--road-closures.aspx

Beach Rd will be closed to traffic between Dendy Street and Balcombe Road between 6:00am - 10:30am on the morning of the Triathlon. No motor vehicles or recreational cyclists will be allowed on the course during these times except for the official race vehicles, lead bikes and emergency vehicles.

WindRider
QLD, 838 posts
12 Jan 2012 5:09PM
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Guys the latest forecast is in for Sunday.

Southeasterly 10 to 15 knots tending south to southeasterly up to 25 knots during the afternoon.

Windsurf0709
VIC, 136 posts
12 Jan 2012 6:35PM
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Acker said...

Windguru will rarely capture a seabreeze


How about seabreeze' forecast? Does it account for "sea breezes"?

Acker
VIC, 89 posts
13 Jan 2012 10:56AM
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Windsurf0709 said...

Acker said...

Windguru will rarely capture a seabreeze


How about seabreeze' forecast? Does it account for "sea breezes"?





No not really. Similar to WindGuru it's mostly using global model data, so Seabreeze will pick up synoptic features but not seabreezes. That's why Seabreeze currently has nothing for sunday but BOM forecasts up to 25 knots (using their newer more accurate higher res models).

28 deg for sunday versus 21 bay temp is a big difference but this temp is meant for in the shade. Under fully sunny conditions it's equivalent to about 15 degrees extra temp on the land surface so looking at 43 land temp versus 21 bay temp = very strong seabreeze pull. It's often hard to get 28 deg without some sort of N to ENE flow (which seems to kill seabreezes), but sunday looks good so far.

K Dog
VIC, 1847 posts
13 Jan 2012 11:03AM
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Interesting stuff Acker - you work for the BOM??

Acker
VIC, 89 posts
13 Jan 2012 11:13AM
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K Dog said...

Interesting stuff Acker - you work for the BOM??


No, I analyse bushfire behaviour and risk, which is 90% about the effect of weather on fires; link with BOM a bit.

K Dog
VIC, 1847 posts
13 Jan 2012 1:08PM
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Some of you guys have some good local knowledge. The guy on baywinds works for the BOM and shares some very interesting comments on Northerlies and Rye... would be good to get some of this info together somewhere.... nothing worse that chasing wind in the wrong spots and sitting around while somewhere else on the bay its blowing hard and your sitting there scratching your head wondering why it doesn't turn up......

I am no longer a fan for Southerlies at Bonbeach for this reason.... all chop and no power for the hop..... and St Kilda and Elwood go quite nicely.....

Windsurf0709
VIC, 136 posts
13 Jan 2012 1:44PM
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Sunday's forecast could be great for a blast out to the Beacon and back.

Btw I often notice a few knots difference in the seabreeze wind strength from Dendy St (Brighton) to St.Kilda/Middle Park (windier further up the Bay).

I'm guessing Middle Park is sort of in line with the centre of the bay and Brighton is closer to shore and might be more protected (mind you I prefer the wave/swell direction and Dendy St)

WindRider
QLD, 838 posts
13 Jan 2012 12:50PM
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K Dog said...

Some of you guys have some good local knowledge. The guy on baywinds works for the BOM and shares some very interesting comments on Northerlies and Rye... would be good to get some of this info together somewhere.... nothing worse that chasing wind in the wrong spots and sitting around while somewhere else on the bay its blowing hard and your sitting there scratching your head wondering why it doesn't turn up......

I am no longer a fan for Southerlies at Bonbeach for this reason.... all chop and no power for the hop..... and St Kilda and Elwood go quite nicely.....


I agree Seabreezes are mostly more powerfull up at the top end of the bay, but Bonno has worked well for me over the many years. Just need to put up the right size sail and board. A great spot for bump and jump.

K Dog
VIC, 1847 posts
13 Jan 2012 4:50PM
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WindRider said...

K Dog said...

Some of you guys have some good local knowledge. The guy on baywinds works for the BOM and shares some very interesting comments on Northerlies and Rye... would be good to get some of this info together somewhere.... nothing worse that chasing wind in the wrong spots and sitting around while somewhere else on the bay its blowing hard and your sitting there scratching your head wondering why it doesn't turn up......

I am no longer a fan for Southerlies at Bonbeach for this reason.... all chop and no power for the hop..... and St Kilda and Elwood go quite nicely.....


I agree Seabreezes are mostly more powerfull up at the top end of the bay, but Bonno has worked well for me over the many years. Just need to put up the right size sail and board. A great spot for bump and jump.


Maybe its best in a Westerly and SW, rather than dead Sth.....? I do enjoy the beach, and still have fun there, but found it didn't have a sweet spot for that wind direction like Elwood et al.

Windsurf0709
VIC, 136 posts
15 Jan 2012 9:35AM
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From the BoM site this am:


Forecast for Sunday until midnight
Winds
South to southeasterly around 10 knots increasing to 15 to 20 knots during the afternoon and evening before easing to around 10 knots tonight.
Seas
0.5 to 1 metres.

WindRider
QLD, 838 posts
15 Jan 2012 7:41PM
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What an event. A great turn out, wind, sun and heaps of stories once again.
A big thanks to the guys at SHQ for putting on a great event, more than lived up to the legend of The Breakwater to Beacon. Also a big thanks to the WV committee members who help run this event.
See you at the next one.

ejmack
VIC, 1308 posts
15 Jan 2012 9:24PM
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Agree, great event, conditions and overall day. First Breakwater to Beacon for me. Failed miserably but enjoyed it non the less. A lot to learn and plenty of practice needed for next years event. Thanks to all!

mr love
VIC, 2421 posts
15 Jan 2012 9:35PM
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Good fun.
A huge thankyou to WV, SHQ and all the volunteers.
I learned 2 things today
1) I have to get my A out from behind the computer and get fit
2) I remember why I stopped sailing Formula boards 3 years ago!!!!

Next year!!!

Windsurf0709
VIC, 136 posts
15 Jan 2012 10:12PM
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Had a great time. Thanks to SHQ for the RS Ones on loan and for the safety boats and organisation. And and the cold beer - thank god for that (after those longggg reaches on the same tack)!

Anyone with a GPS got distance of how far it was?

ejmack
VIC, 1308 posts
15 Jan 2012 11:05PM
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15 k's I measured on my gps but I also came in halfway between green point and Hampton. See attached image of my explorations.



WindRider
QLD, 838 posts
16 Jan 2012 8:15AM
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I had direct run out and back and my GPS recorded about 20kms.

K Dog
VIC, 1847 posts
16 Jan 2012 10:32AM
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Oh poor Evan - I saw someone taking off downwind and was wondering where they were going..... now its explained

My GPS recorded 13.3km.... the upwind tack was on the way back, straight line out.... got a bit lost on the way back.... it all looks the same




Still really stoked to have joined in and completed it. Brilliant job by SHQ and WV, well organized, great weather and wind for it, and just heaps of fun. These sort of races are a great idea, no classes, no restrictions, Formula Vs RS1's Vs Freerides and raceboards.... good stuff

Going to publish the race finish listing?

ejmack
VIC, 1308 posts
16 Jan 2012 11:14AM
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K Dog - looks like you did well.

Yeah, that would have been me heading off I guess. Almost turned around half way but figured what's the worst that could happen - big walk back to start. Still fairly pleased with results, made it out and back (though not correct marker but I gybed around a large pylon). If anything it's made me more determined to sort this problem out for next year.

steveBayside
VIC, 169 posts
16 Jan 2012 11:22AM
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Getting my carlock screwdrivered and my wallet, keys and phone stolen from the Sandy beach carpark sort of took the shine off the day for me.

I think they deliberately targeted a windsurfing car guessing my stuff would be in it, so watch out... (and they didn't even have the decency to take the car!)

After that I didn't even get out sailing.

It looked good though!



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