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Gear for Sailing in Winter - recommendations?

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Created by AlexR > 9 months ago, 19 Apr 2015
AlexR
VIC, 3 posts
19 Apr 2015 12:35PM
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Hi All,

How do you usually go about sailing in colder seasons?
I normally sail at St Kilda in summer using full 5/3 wetsuit. Will I need to get a new one, or is there something I can try wearing underneath?
How essential is it to wear gloves, booties, etc?
Any other tips to avoid hypothermia?

Thanks in advance!

Retzy
VIC, 130 posts
19 Apr 2015 7:41PM
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It's just not that cold... We windsurfed in January in the UK. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

4/3 and booties will be the most u need, although the washing up gloves are surprisingly good for wind chill on the hands.

Faff
VIC, 1396 posts
19 Apr 2015 10:00PM
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AlexR said..
Hi All,

How do you usually go about sailing in colder seasons?
I normally sail at St Kilda in summer using full 5/3 wetsuit. Will I need to get a new one, or is there something I can try wearing underneath?
How essential is it to wear gloves, booties, etc?
Any other tips to avoid hypothermia?

Thanks in advance!


Are your sure it's a 5/3 and not a 3/2? You could get a heat stroke wearing that in summer.

nazsail
VIC, 317 posts
21 Apr 2015 12:27AM
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As well as booties and a cap, I bought some Lava Core thermals to keep the heat in, and a kayak jacket to keep the wind out. Toasty warm, won't need gloves then. Hot soup in a thermos works a treat too! I can usually last a few hours then.

WindmanV
VIC, 806 posts
23 Apr 2015 8:19PM
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Hello, Alex,

Whilst some people only use a double-sided wetsuit, in winter the cold wind will blow straight through the older style wetties and refrigerate you. Whilst I prefer a single-sided wetsuit for winter, these are both costly and need a lot of care to prevent damage to the soft, outer material. A maxim is that "Double-sided wetsuits are best for sports IN the water, whilst single-side wetsuits are best for sports OUT of the water".

As a suggestion, you might think about a Ripcurl vest, to be worn under your current wettie and shown here: http://www.ripcurl.com.au/shop/guys/wetsuits/vests.html. I can’t tell if the current ones use a silver internal lining, like my one has, but they are light, don’t impede your arms (if swimming) and the silver lining reflects body heat, slowing heat loss. Not sure if SHQ or the Zu stock them, but they can always get them. Best bet for a touch and feel would be Mordy Surf Shop and it’s probably worth a call to see what they carry. My one is the 1.5mm thick type and its only drawback is that it sticks to your skin and can be difficult to get off. I lightly dust talcum powder down the arms and shoulders to ease the vest on.

You might look at the NP standard hoods at SHQ www.npsurf.com/products/protective/hoods-beanies-hats.html and consider open-palm gloves: www.npsurf.com/products/protective/gloves.html or their equivalents by other makers and at the Zu. The hood's extended neck covers a large nerve area at the back of your neck, which, if it gets cold makes you feel REALLY cold. I’ve tried dishwashing gloves early in my windsurfing career and they didn’t work for me, but as they are cheap, they’re probably worth a go before buying open palm gloves. As a suggestion, one pair of dishwashing gloves on top of another might work.

For boots, I prefer round toe, as the split toe type rode up into the groove between my big toe and its brother, causing severe pain. Designs may have changed since that happened, though. I used zippered boots last year: www.oceanicaus.com.au/product.php?id=766 and found the zip allowed the boot to come off quickly as I was changing into clothes, a big plus when you are cold. Water penetration through the zip was negligible. You do need to keep your big toe nails clipped really short, as the nail will cut through the boot, from the inside. The Mares NG boot (www.mares.com/products/divingwear/wetsuits-accessories/?region=as ) looks good, but the Mirage TTZ (www.capebyronsports.com.au/html/footwear-b008.htm) was a failure for me, as the extended sole coming onto the top of the boot at the front, caught the footstraps causing crashes during gybing (and triple-forward and Superman attempts ). Both boot types should be available from Macs Waterski World in Moorabbin.

There’s over 10 years of trialling the things above and I’ll give it to you for free, but don’t share it with anybody else.

Hope this helps

mathew
QLD, 2143 posts
24 Apr 2015 2:16AM
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My 3 tips...
- hood
- booties
- your summer wetsuit over your winter suit.

mr love
VIC, 2419 posts
24 Apr 2015 7:07AM
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I have a very good 5/4/3 Spartan wetsuit now so no issue at all staying warm. However previous years in my old 4/3 steamer on the really cold days I wore a Kathmandu thermal under the wettie. It made a massive difference . If you don't want a really hardcore winter wettie one of these is worth the investment.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
24 Apr 2015 9:12AM
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Mathew is in to it. Definitely a neoprene hoody or beanie will help in maintaining core heat.

red
VIC, 741 posts
24 Apr 2015 11:15AM
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A 1mm wetsuit top...perfect for summer days and worn under steamer in winter...multi purpose kit



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