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I can table top, forward, vulcan but my gybes suck

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Created by MrSpaggiari > 9 months ago, 8 Dec 2009
MrSpaggiari
QLD, 241 posts
8 Dec 2009 4:14PM
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Always at the sail flip...

why why why why why why why

lee1972
QLD, 921 posts
8 Dec 2009 6:11PM
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would you mind showing me how to table top etc, stuff the jibe

Willaus0001
QLD, 333 posts
8 Dec 2009 6:45PM
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yeah man. vulcans are way more stylish than a gybe.

However - if you insist: its all about really sheeting in with the sail hand and dropping the mast hand in and forward. This holds strgon mast foot pressure and keeps the carve constant. The knees absorb the shop, but this shouldnt change over the various water states (chopy, flat etc).

This process should give you the speed. next when you just pass through the wind - PUSh the sail around - dont let it float (unless you are very tired or drunk). as you push out with the sail hand - follow it forward with the foot change into the new side andkeep the old mast hand coming up to your chest. This will mean the sail flips faster, and is in the right position as you come fangin out the other side!!

...or just loop and tack out. its easier.

have fun!

MrSpaggiari
QLD, 241 posts
9 Dec 2009 1:55AM
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Mayb thats my prob, im letting it float around.. So all you guys push it when flipping the sail? Hmmmm... makes sense, cause when I flip it, the sail is flapping back and forth then I'm leaning forward and pulls me over etc..

MrSpaggiari
QLD, 241 posts
9 Dec 2009 1:59AM
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lee1972 said...

would you mind showing me how to table top etc, stuff the jibe


just go for it, when starting, launch straight up twist the board out and land in the water on your back.. you actually don't need much air to do it like that.. then jump a bit higher and bring the board back to land..

If you can jibe.... respect!!!

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
11 Dec 2009 1:39PM
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If you plane through a gybe, the sail will flip itself. If you are not planing through your gybes, it's likely that you are leaning back, rather than a bit forward, through the turn, and bogging the tail.
I got a tip once, to try and dip my knees in the water, which was very helpful. It encourages a nice rail pressure while keeping your weight forward , which turns the board without disturbing the trim. Sheet in, lean forward while applying even steady rail pressure, and plane around like a beauty.
At the flip, slide your hand up the boom so it is close to the mast. If you let it flip in the sailing position, the axis of rotation is too far back, and it all goes very bad.

I've been stuffing my port-side gybes recently, so I've had to go back and re-analyse a lot of this stuff. It's a beotch when you get out of practice or into a bad habit. Gybing when running out of wind produces very bad habits, which was my problem.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
14 Dec 2009 5:52PM
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KenHo said...
Gybing when running out of wind produces very bad habits, which was my problem.


Agreed, then you've got no speed and you have to sink the tail to get around. You also have to keep sail powered for any speed and stability you can find, resulting in something like this:



One thing I did teach myself recently was to take note of the mast angle. I was always flipping the rig and then being overpowered (sometimes still am). It didn't matter how much I bent knees in anticipation of too much power, I'd flip rig and go over the handlebars.

Now I rake the rig back a little bit before flipping and it is quite often just right post flip. Must have been doing something right as I finally got some planing exit gybes two weeks back, man I was happy : ) felt like getting a tattoo or something.

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
14 Dec 2009 7:30PM
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I had the old Carve Clinic videos by Peter Hart, which were very good. I think I still have them, but they might be in a rubbish box. I need to rescue them. I haven't needed them for years, but then I've had a few years off too, and I need to review a bunch of stuff.



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