it was crappola. 
derailed at the train. again!
wasn't a wasted trip though. stopped by SurfFX and picked up a wicked fin. 
did you end up rigging up?
i dont plan on going to the train again after that session :S
nah scully,
left not long after saying hello. it has been a while since i had a good session at the train, but when it's good it is good. 
it don't get it. when i left the inlaws at hope island end it was pumping, felt like 20 knots at times. nada at the train, get back to hope island aqnd it's still pumping. 
hey how did your toe shape up?
hey vando.
what did ya do to your foot? sounds sore if it has kept you off the water. you've got gills.
hey how did your toe shape up?
bugger,
you know if you get erectile dysfunction also there is a thread that may help.
seriuosly, hope it gets better soon, what did you do?
ive taped it, and icing it, i dont understand. no scratchs, no swelling, but severe pain :S
Well wello for me 2moro.
evil easterlies 
gesty - u have a habit of turning up at train or shearwater when the forecast is too east or too west 
yes, to much east in it for fun. forecast was for NE
we don't have those probs in brissy.
HC from that I have automatically assumed you have nothing good to say about JP freestyle fins.
What's a good one?
hi dave, here is my response th haircut.....
thanks hairy,
sounds like that will do what i am after.
hugs and kisses,
Gman.
any fin that lets u slide around in cirlces
a small flexy tipped wave fin around 19-23cm for a 70kg chappy using a sub 6m sail in 13-18knots on 90-100litre board
just a generalisation --> I find that very stiff wave fins with no flex in tip like the newer JP G10 ones tend to grab and send you back in original direction halfway through a spin, while with a flexy tipped one, once you've spun out they stay spun out - but a tiny sub 17cm one spins out non stop regardless on it's flex
i have a chopped down us-box fin if anyone wants to swap for a crappy powerbox fin.
although as you guys know i'm a complete novice at this stuff,
my big issue is planing in light winds. i was drawn to the JP in the bigger size (23-24cm) as i reckon it'll get me up on the plane.
what that also means is a bigger fin with a stiff tip and a decent chord ratio. ie. grab in the spins and a noticible top end. but hey if i'm planing i'm happy. those type of fins are also sold as novice freestyle fins.
will mean most likely 2 fins, a big one like the JP for my rippling 105kg in 12-20 knots. from my previous fins a 24-25cm fin like above gets me planing in 15knots on a 5.8m or there abouts. for a heavy guy that's tiny stuff!
then will get a smaller fin for more powered up sailing that does what haircut has said above. i hope
so it's JP or choco
stiff tip is still very freestyle do-able, just not as forgiving it seems. anyway, it's just my two bobs worth
well from what i have read haircut the fin makers agree with you. 
that and you can do the flicky spinny stuff i'm going to listen, plus the guy at surfx also made the same comments as yourself.
choco fins recomend the royal flush (wider bigger tip) for lakes and early planing and the starfish (thinner smaller tip) for radical freestyle. i think those 2 fins show the diferences very well.
that said i have a **** load of fins and i still can't sail any better than i used to. 
just counted them. and i should point out i do use all of them plus i like 1 fin per sail.
formula
deep tuttle - 70cm deb custom, 70cm gsport formula, 67cm C3
slalom/race
tuttle - 48cm MFC RC, 42cm MFC RC, 39cm torquay world cup slalom, 32cm Torquay race slalom
us box - 30cm Hi-Tech race extreme
freewave
powerbox - 32cm MFC freewave
us box - 30cm MFC freewave
wave
powerbox - 25cm select x1 evo
us box - 25cm torquay slot wave
freestyle
powerbox - 25cm freestyle pro (lost )
getting 2 more freestyle fins and prob another wave fin.
boards come and go but fins are forever.
actually i sail a lot of different styles of boards and all of them have different fin boxes.
