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evlPanda
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18 Jan 2014 12:37pm
I've seen some people launching from Clontarf in a NE, but is it a struggle to get out past the wind shadow?
Is there a strong tide there?

Going there for a BBQ I can't get out of this afternoon and thinking of taking my gear. BOM says 20+ NE and SeaBreeze kinda agrees.

Worth launching from Clontarf and floating down to Middle Head?
Can I get back?
Dibbsy23
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18 Jan 2014 3:27pm
Go and get on the cans instead, you would really struggle getting back and there will be heaps of boats around there today as it is out of the wind. Different story in a SE
Dean 424
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18 Jan 2014 10:16pm
The wind shadow can be a real pest. Hard to get back even with formula gear sometimes. A couple of Fridays ago when the tides where big the Friday night twilight racers where struggling to get back to Middle Harbour skiff club with a really strong ebb tide and light winds. Have a look at Chinaman's beach. There is a great park to rig up, barbeque's, toilets etc and a couple tacks you are there.
regal1
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20 Jan 2014 1:18pm
I live near Rosherville reserve. There are old faded Mosman Council signs saying no windsurfers allowed in the park or on the beach (Chinamans). I think that Balmoral is a much better location in a northeaster though the boats are a nuisance to sail through. I'll send a photo tomorrow. Rangers are very active in the area...
Dean 424
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20 Jan 2014 4:59pm
Thanks Regal, never seen that sign must have selective seeing. Hunters Bay is hard to get access to, have to sail through the rocks north of Rocky Point, the boats at Balmoral, they have really closed the whole area off to windsurfers. That's why I have purchased a raceboard so that I can sail out of Middle Harbour Yacht club.
slalomfreak
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20 Jan 2014 6:46pm
Cant one still launch from the northern end of Balmoral,Taylors Beach?
Provided you can find a spot to park that is.
Dean 424
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20 Jan 2014 7:35pm
Yes, but very Rocky, snorkelers etc and as you say it is hard to get a park.
regal1
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21 Jan 2014 11:22am




"No Sailboards Within 60m of Shore"

Slalomfreak, were you off Balmoral out last Thursday afternoon at 3.30pm? I sailed for 50m alongside a yellow sailed wally and raceboard with an enormous sail and then a gust hit and the raceboard accelerated away very, very quickly.
Dean 424
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24 Jan 2014 10:09pm
Hi Regal, that was me on the raceboard. I was using 9.8m RS Racing and sailing with one of the other guys that race on Friday nights out of Middle Harbour.
AUS4
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24 Jan 2014 10:27pm
regal1 said..





"No Sailboards Within 60m of Shore"

Slalomfreak, were you off Balmoral out last Thursday afternoon at 3.30pm? I sailed for 50m alongside a yellow sailed wally and raceboard with an enormous sail and then a gust hit and the raceboard accelerated away very, very quickly.



Mosman Council would save a lot of money by making a sign showing what you can do instead of what you can't do !!!
Dean 424
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24 Jan 2014 10:31pm
You can moor a stack of vessel's anywhere you like as long as they impede the proper use of waterway to everyone else detriment, even if you do only use it once a year.
tomp
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24 Jan 2014 11:45pm
it's a shame the Mosman council rangers are so 'vigilant' (ie; book whoever they can) and have essentially
scared off windsurfers.

during the week I think the odd person sails off Edwards beach at the northern end. You are supposed to
launch past the buoys but can go straight off the beach if windy enough. During the weekend it seems to
be maxxed out with Mosmanites (and wannabes) in Porsche 4WD and BMW X5's power-walking or SUPing
and then rewarding themselves with a coffee.

still a good spot in NE, as mentioned the south end is a pain through all the boats.

used to sail there a lot in the old days even with wave gear.

NE still funnels in nicely. Later in the arvo when more NNE Bradleys Head would be great but again the
council has metered that to death. Bradleys also one of the best spots in the harbour when W.
evlPanda
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25 Jan 2014 1:42am
tomp said..

Bradleys also one of the best spots in the harbour when W.


Hey I found Rose Bay was pretty awesome in a W, perhaps it was a WNW. Really nice angle for a blast out the point and back.
Parking and rigging is OK, somehow I have managed to grab the last parking spot next to SUP hire about 6 times in a row.

I want to try Neilson Park/Shark Beach in a NE too, but I am a little concerned about anything breaking. Tide going in or out means a potentially very long swim in a very, very busy harbour.

Dean 424
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25 Jan 2014 8:51pm
Can't see how one could sail Bradley's as Maritime would be right onto you sailing across a shipping channel/traffic separation zone. Tomp did you mean more Athol Bay off the Zoo? Would be keen to give Rose Bay a go though.
tomp
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25 Jan 2014 10:46pm
dean,
Balmoral would still be the preferred launch for NE and during the week no dramas. Come the weekend or
public hols etc. it's so hard to park close enough.

I just meant that Bradley's often appears good later in the arvo especially if more NNE. The Rose Bay/Neilson
Park option would be good if you have the time, I usually don't.

I mostly go for waves if possible but being on the north side makes the Wanda/'gong trip almost too long
during the week. Manly is sometimes a NE option, such a shame it just won't get over 15 knots and if it's
actually 20 knots I'll go to Longie.

Dean 424
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27 Jan 2014 9:09am
Ok. I have also been looking at the wind around Bradley's and how it funnels down the Western Channel.
tomp
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27 Jan 2014 12:28pm
personally I think the North Head wind meter under reads slightly under for NE and is closer to the mark
for southerly winds but the Harbour graph def over reads NE/NNE.
Dean 424
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27 Jan 2014 2:41pm
Agree with North Head, and the Harbour wind meter is just off Chowder Bay so a bit of funnelling off the rocks with a NE'ly. Anyone sailed much off 40 basket's in NE'ly?
regal1
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28 Jan 2014 9:15am






There's lot's of room to rig at the south end of Balmoral but Dean is right. I went there yesterday at 4.40pm and I couldn't get park legally until 5.00pm. The boats are intimidating to sail through. I will ring Mosman council today as I think that bylaw regarding windsurfers in Rosherville is very old and clearly outdated.
JustinL
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28 Jan 2014 12:14pm
I love sailing around these areas. I go out from Little Manly, Clontauf, Chinamans and MH16ft SC. In the video I went out from Balmoral SC and I am embarrassed to say I spent over $20 in parking. So never again. The island is great to set up for video. This was a training video for Adam Craven and I before the downunder pro. Adam spanked me downwind

Ads72
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28 Jan 2014 7:51pm
JustinL said..

I love sailing around these areas. I go out from Little Manly, Clontauf, Chinamans and MH16ft SC. In the video I went out from Balmoral SC and I am embarrassed to say I spent over $20 in parking. So never again. The island is great to set up for video. This was a training video for Adam Craven and I before the downunder pro. Adam spanked me downwind



If this were the case at the Nationals Justin, I'd still be celebrating! Cheers for the video mate
evlPanda
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30 Jan 2014 12:24pm
Dean 424 said..
Anyone sailed much off 40 basket's in NE'ly?


No. But I fully intend to. Might be a slight walk from parking to the rigging area but there's plenty of grass and a nice launch spot. It wouldn't take much to get out past the boats and into some clean wind. Family can enjoy the beach; win-win.

Downwinder to Rose Bay?
regal1
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30 Jan 2014 4:14pm
I have a Mosman parking sticker so its no financial penalty. Favourite sail is from Balmoral to the cafe at North Head quarantine station then a downwind back home. No interest in the ghost & paranormal tour.
Dean 424
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31 Jan 2014 2:27pm
Both options sound interesting, but driving around to Rose Bay would be too much of an effort for me. Regal sailing up to Quarantine or even right up to the Manly aquarium could be excellent in a NE especially on a race board or formula wouldn't take too long. I got a Mosman parking permit at reduced price through being a member a Middle Harbour skiff club.

Nice Video Justin.
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