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Created by bigdog > 9 months ago, 2 Jun 2009
bigdog
WA, 73 posts
2 Jun 2009 7:53PM
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Steve has found a great run, unfortunately its in Holland
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hardie
WA, 4130 posts
2 Jun 2009 7:58PM
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WHY IS SALIVA DRIPPING FROM MY MOUTH

Gestalt
QLD, 14759 posts
2 Jun 2009 10:04PM
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that's awesome!!!!

i reckon i get my landsailor flying along that straight road.

bigdog
WA, 73 posts
2 Jun 2009 8:05PM
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its 3 miles long, unfortunately Steve on has formula gear,

snides8
WA, 1731 posts
2 Jun 2009 8:07PM
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looks like he has found 2!

Gestalt
QLD, 14759 posts
2 Jun 2009 10:12PM
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no worries about only having formla gear. there are formula records to go for.

snides8
WA, 1731 posts
2 Jun 2009 8:12PM
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hardie said...

WHY IS SALIVA DRIPPING FROM MY MOUTH


put your falsies back in!

bigdog
WA, 73 posts
2 Jun 2009 8:41PM
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does anyone know how to copy pictures from f.b so i can upload Danny's 44 knot run in holland as well

choco
SA, 4177 posts
3 Jun 2009 11:15PM
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California has a huge network of irrigation canals:

sailquik
VIC, 6168 posts
4 Jun 2009 12:40AM
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choco said...

California has a huge network of irrigation canals:



But no wind!!!!

Roo
879 posts
3 Jun 2009 11:32PM
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sailquik said...

choco said...

California has a huge network of irrigation canals:



But no wind!!!!


So those 70 knot gusts at the Ponds that flip over shipping containers and searing Santa Ana winds that bring fiery devastation to the state are a figment of Hollywood's imagination then? California has heaps of wind, ever heard of San Francisco Bay and the epic windsurfing there in Summer, San Luis Resevoir and the Pacheco Pass winds that blast the windsurfers into submission? All those wind turbines that make power for the state must run off sunshine, it's a bit like saying Sandy Point is not sandy![}:)]

sausage
QLD, 4874 posts
4 Jun 2009 9:46AM
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Roo said...
[, it's a bit like saying Sandy Point is not sandy![}:)]


or has no point.

stringer
WA, 703 posts
4 Jun 2009 12:01PM
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choco said...

California has a huge network of irrigation canals:




there is no room for overtaking here and not much in the way of a window for wind direction either.. the search continues...

stringer
WA, 703 posts
4 Jun 2009 12:02PM
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bigdog said...

does anyone know how to copy pictures from f.b so i can upload Danny's 44 knot run in holland as well


try right click, save picture as...

choco
SA, 4177 posts
4 Jun 2009 2:07PM
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stringer said...

choco said...

California has a huge network of irrigation canals:




there is no room for overtaking here and not much in the way of a window for wind direction either.. the search continues...


Wind direction isn't a problem because the canals zig zag around the country side so you would be able to find the right run whatever direction the wind is blowing they are 50m wide so you could overtake if you're fast enough

sausage
QLD, 4874 posts
4 Jun 2009 3:27PM
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choco said...

stringer said...

choco said...

California has a huge network of irrigation canals:



there is no room for overtaking here and not much in the way of a window for wind direction either.. the search continues...


Wind direction isn't a problem because the canals zig zag around the country side so you would be able to find the right run whatever direction the wind is blowing they are 50m wide so you could overtake if you're fast enough


Choco,
50metres wide hey - perfect Alphas every gybe

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
4 Jun 2009 2:26PM
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Those Californian aqueducts look pretty smooth and the desert winds can be quite strong.

Roo, what the legality of sailing there?

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
4 Jun 2009 5:39PM
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It's easy to fly in Holland.

Zoom in:
www.google.com.au:443/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode&q=lake+tekapo&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=51.912744,79.101563&ie=UTF8&ll=-44.080926,170.343361&spn=0.165734,0.30899&t=h&z=12

More to the SW.



Plenty of rigging areas:



Terrain is either mountains, or pool table flat for 10s of KMs in most directions (turn on terrain in google maps):

Was just around the corner over easter. That's smoke on the water (da da daa) in the distance and 6ft chop.



Bring a dry suit.

icesurf
QLD, 113 posts
4 Jun 2009 6:17PM
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Argh,

Playground of the Western States!

sailquik
VIC, 6168 posts
4 Jun 2009 7:13PM
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Roo said...

sailquik said...

choco said...

California has a huge network of irrigation canals:



But no wind!!!!


So those 70 knot gusts at the Ponds that flip over shipping containers and searing Santa Ana winds that bring fiery devastation to the state are a figment of Hollywood's imagination then? California has heaps of wind, ever heard of San Francisco Bay and the epic windsurfing there in Summer, San Luis Resevoir and the Pacheco Pass winds that blast the windsurfers into submission? All those wind turbines that make power for the state must run off sunshine, it's a bit like saying Sandy Point is not sandy![}:)]


No wind in the picture. But hey, I look forward to reading all about your PB's and records when you sail there Roo!

All those guys out there speeding up and down those canals must be very secretive... .. or can't work computers an GPS's.............
Nah, can't be that, not in the 'Silicon Valley' State.

sailquik
VIC, 6168 posts
4 Jun 2009 7:27PM
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Re. Picture of canal in NZ:

In 1989 I was in a Toyota Hi Ace minibus on that road in a 40+ knots side wind (Skiing Trip) My speed sailing mate and I were hanging out the window in amazement
looking for the bits that had just the right angle.
Didn't have a windsurfer with us though!

Three things I remember:
-The wind was extremely gusty!
-The driver was struggling to keep the van on the road using both lanes
and full cross arm technique and the girls (OK, us too ) were terrified!
- The following chop build up on the bits that were the right angle was horrendous!!!

choco
SA, 4177 posts
4 Jun 2009 7:00PM
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I asked the question on iwindsurf in the US and it seems they have held speed events during the 80's

www.iwindsurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17734

choco
SA, 4177 posts
4 Jun 2009 7:13PM
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Irrigation canal in NSW Finley 155km long 40m wide

sailquik
VIC, 6168 posts
4 Jun 2009 9:51PM
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choco said...

Irrigation canal in NSW Finley 155km long 40m wide



Ahhh, I love looking at those pictures and dreaming...... But I doubt the wind ever gets strong from the right direction there either.
If you find out it does, be sure to call me!

Roo
879 posts
5 Jun 2009 12:19AM
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choco said...

I asked the question on iwindsurf in the US and it seems they have held speed events during the 80's

www.iwindsurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17734


The event they are talking about was held in one of the storage ponds for the irrigation canals at a place called San Luis Resevoir that feeds into the California Aquaduct. The wind howls there in summer (it's blowing 25-30 there as I write this) and in the late 1980's early 1990's they used to get 300 windsurfers turning up for the annual Speed Checks. Fred Haywood and Jimmy Lewis were regular attendants.

You can read about it here:
http://www.gps-speedsailing.com/Beta/AMS1.pdf
www.gps-speedsailing.com/Beta/AMS2.pdf
www.gps-speedsailing.com/Beta/AMS3.pdf
www.gps-speedsailing.com/Beta/AMS4.pdf

Biggest problems with sailing the canals, and believe me we tried, is the fast moving current and difficulty getting in and out of them...they are quite slippery and steep banks. It's only when the current is the fastest that the water is high enough so there is no wind shadow.

Nowadays there are only one or two speedsailors in California, the Ponds have long since dried up and been closed, and most windsurfers moved up to the Gorge or gave up. Back in its heyday speedsailors combed the state looking for the perfect location.

choco
SA, 4177 posts
5 Jun 2009 9:24AM
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Thanks Roo that was a great article.
In a country the size of Nth America i still think there is an ultimate speed spot that is yet to be discovered.The Ponds looked a great spot have the sailors ever pushed to get water put back into them?

Roo
879 posts
5 Jun 2009 8:11AM
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choco said...

Thanks Roo that was a great article.
In a country the size of Nth America i still think there is an ultimate speed spot that is yet to be discovered.The Ponds looked a great spot have the sailors ever pushed to get water put back into them?


Other than liability concerns at the the Ponds caused by outlaw jetskiers the biggest problem has been the drought in California and lack of water. The water district hasn't been able to buy enough water to fill them up; the diversion from the Colorado river is in dispute and everyone wants a share of the water, even Mexico.

Believe me we have searched the West coast up and down, ARooBar is the closest we have come. Finding consistant strong winds is the problem, The Ponds, The Gorge and San Luis Resevoir have that in the Summer but no real full size speed run. Coastal site winds are storm driven and they have been pretty mellow for the last few years. The fastest sites are the Klickitat River Sandbar in the Gorge and ARooBar at the mouth of the Gorge so far, neither of those have been sailed to their full potential but I'm working on it!

elmo
WA, 8882 posts
5 Jun 2009 9:01AM
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Roo said...

choco said...

Thanks Roo that was a great article.
In a country the size of Nth America i still think there is an ultimate speed spot that is yet to be discovered.The Ponds looked a great spot have the sailors ever pushed to get water put back into them?


Other than liability concerns at the the Ponds caused by outlaw jetskiers the biggest problem has been the drought in California and lack of water. The water district hasn't been able to buy enough water to fill them up; the diversion from the Colorado river is in dispute and everyone wants a share of the water, even Mexico.

Believe me we have searched the West coast up and down, ARooBar is the closest we have come. Finding consistant strong winds is the problem, The Ponds, The Gorge and San Luis Resevoir have that in the Summer but no real full size speed run. Coastal site winds are storm driven and they have been pretty mellow for the last few years. The fastest sites are the Klickitat River Sandbar in the Gorge and ARooBar at the mouth of the Gorge so far, neither of those have been sailed to their full potential but I'm working on it!


The search goes on

Good luck with it Roo, Hopefully some gold turns up soon

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
5 Jun 2009 11:16AM
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The right side photo I posted yesterday is indeed the San Luis reservoir.

I believe this vid is of the same area.

www.stableroad.com/videos/bsy3speed.htm

here is a little bit about the place

www.iwindsurf.com/windandwhere.iws?regionID=128&siteID=207&Isection=Local+Info

But I still think SP is the place despite the encroaching dunes. They don't look nearly as high from this perspective as they did from the waters edge.

Roo
879 posts
5 Jun 2009 11:55AM
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yoyo said...

The right side photo I posted yesterday is indeed the San Luis reservoir.

I believe this vid is of the same area.

www.stableroad.com/videos/bsy3speed.htm

here is a little bit about the place

www.iwindsurf.com/windandwhere.iws?regionID=128&siteID=207&Isection=Local+Info


I thought it looked familiar. The old Speed Checks were held down on the O'Neill Forebay, as seen in the video. It gives you a good idea of the wind, crowds and amazing turnouts these events generated.

hardie
WA, 4130 posts
5 Jun 2009 4:56PM
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Roo said...

yoyo said...

The right side photo I posted yesterday is indeed the San Luis reservoir.

I believe this vid is of the same area.

www.stableroad.com/videos/bsy3speed.htm

here is a little bit about the place

www.iwindsurf.com/windandwhere.iws?regionID=128&siteID=207&Isection=Local+Info


I thought it looked familiar. The old Speed Checks were held down on the O'Neill Forebay, as seen in the video. It gives you a good idea of the wind, crowds and amazing turnouts these events generated.





Hey Roo howabout getting your cowboys onto the GTC we need an american team!!!!



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