zen and the art of sailing.

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Trousers
Trousers
SA
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SA, 565 posts
11 Feb 2009 10:28pm
tonight myself and two other desperados were chasing a late easterly on the lake. it was marginal and we were only planing occasionally.

in the dying rays of sundown the easterly started to kick.

so we sailed on for probably another half hour in very low light conditions. we could see each other and the shore, but the water was quite dark. you sailed almost completely by feel, not knowing when gusts were coming or how flat water was going into a gybe.

admittedly a touch dangerous, but very zen

NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
11 Feb 2009 10:15pm
Trousers said...

tonight myself and two other desperados were chasing a late easterly on the lake. it was marginal and we were only planing occasionally.

in the dying rays of sundown the easterly started to kick.

so we sailed on for probably another half hour in very low light conditions. we could see each other and the shore, but the water was quite dark. you sailed almost completely by feel, not knowing when gusts were coming or how flat water was going into a gybe.

admittedly a touch dangerous, but very zen




You'll have to get some of Kato's headlights.
Ian K
Ian K
WA
4169 posts
WA, 4169 posts
11 Feb 2009 9:52pm
Desperados??? The day will never come when you don't learn something new on the water. Never realised how unimportant vision is in the sailing equation. Especially the gybes - darkness certainly heightens your feel for the board beneath your feet and the boom in your hands, not much else to go on.
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
11 Feb 2009 10:55pm
NotWal said...



You'll have to get some of Kato's headlights.


Or some glowsticks:



(image taken last weekend )

I agree about the zen thing, you can't see the gusts approaching, and you can only see the wave/chop when it's a couple of metres away... Great fun!
Gonewindsurfing247
Gonewindsurfing247
WA
966 posts
WA, 966 posts
12 Feb 2009 8:47am
sometimes its better sailing in the dark - you can't see the sharks
Revhead
Revhead
ACT
372 posts
ACT, 372 posts
12 Feb 2009 11:14am
Funny thing, I can do forward, backward and double loops in the dark, but no one can see it.
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
12 Feb 2009 12:12pm
Ian K said...

Never realised how unimportant vision is in the sailing equation.

You can ascertain how important vision is by trying to sail with eyes closed for a while...
Ian K
Ian K
WA
4169 posts
WA, 4169 posts
12 Feb 2009 11:17am
pierrec45 said...

Ian K said...

Never realised how unimportant vision is in the sailing equation.

You can ascertain how important vision is by trying to sail with eyes closed for a while...


Another scientist! What's going on? There's 3 levels of darkness. Canberra at 20 to 9, eyes closed and a dark and stormy moonless night on Lord Howe Island - that's dark -
(not sailing, trying to find our way home from the pub)

The sun sets in Canberra at 8:01, you could see enough for orientation. I'll try your experiment Pierre, how long do you think I'll last?
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
TAS, 2317 posts
12 Feb 2009 4:20pm
In ancient Japan, Ninja warriors were required to do carve gybes and double forwards blindfolded as part of their training...
Leech
Leech
WA
1933 posts
WA, 1933 posts
12 Feb 2009 2:28pm
Ian K said...
... I'll try your experiment Pierre, how long do you think I'll last?


a few seconds
Revhead
Revhead
ACT
372 posts
ACT, 372 posts
12 Feb 2009 4:57pm
Hey Ian, maybe just take your sunglasses off!!
CJW
CJW
NSW
1731 posts
CJW CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
12 Feb 2009 5:50pm
I sailed in an easterly in Canberra back in the day till about 930 pm. I was up in the middle of the lake opposite the high court etc for a lot of it and there is so much light up there it's not an issue. Sailing back down though....sketchy as hell. Rouge chop...hilarity did not ensue, you basically have no idea what you're going to hit.
Ian K
Ian K
WA
4169 posts
WA, 4169 posts
12 Feb 2009 4:03pm
Revhead said...

Hey Ian, maybe just take your sunglasses off!!

Tried that, still couldn't see so I put them back on, looks are important out there on the water
No i had the yellow tinted tradies safety specs - they don't help either.

9:30 is pushing it Chris, but twilight does last for a surprisingly long time.
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
12 Feb 2009 10:52pm
> blindfolded

I often tried for the fun of it. Very few seconds, and I was lucky.
As soon as there are lights or beacons, however faint, you're OK.

Balance is an amazing sense...
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
TAS, 2317 posts
12 Feb 2009 11:53pm
Seriously, one of my favourite things to do in Mui Ne last year was to go out early with a 7m before the wind (and chop) really kicked in, and see how long I could sail with my eyes shut, just relaxing, planing effortlessly on nearly flat water...typically I only did it for a few seconds at a time (chicken!) but there was no reason not to have done it longer...next time, next time....
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
13 Feb 2009 12:30am
Wet Willy said...

there was no reason not to have done it longer...next time, next time....

Yeah, few seconds OK, it's just that the board takes a slant and you (I, anyways) quickly become outta whack. On the plane is a few more seconds than in lighter winds, you're right. Board keeps more on a straight line then.

All fun stuff to try...

On a similar topic, I've been practicing to sail with the head upside down for years now. First on old boards (see clip for the "old" part) in lighter winds, and also on the 105L. On the old plank, can do safely for up to a minute in 10-12 knots, including a bit of steering.

On the plane at 15-18knts is much trickier, I'm up to about 10-20 seconds, and spills are violent. It seems I'll never get it now. I'm just not bendy enough, the booms are too high in stronger winds to lean out, and the friggin' board keeps going upwind. Ah well, will keep trying...



japester
japester
VIC
63 posts
VIC, 63 posts
14 Feb 2009 7:56am
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