what's the best state for year-round windsurfing?

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Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
TAS, 2317 posts
8 Apr 2011 1:55am
Now, before everyone just says "WA" without thinking, I do want to stress the "year-round" part of the question.

If you wanted to live somewhere:

-you can sail all year round with, say, 7.5 or smaller
-you can sail within a reasonable distance of the city where you live & work (weekday after-work sessions are a must)

...where in Australia would you go?

stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
3571 posts
WA, 3571 posts
8 Apr 2011 6:41am
Perth... if you want consistent summer winds and the option of a variety of spots on weekends. Winter winds are mainly frontal though.

Sydney is ok... but you will need to be flexible. The sailing in the afternoon is mainly a summer affair... especially since it get's dark to early. That said July / August will usually produce consistent Westerlies in the afternoons... or at least it used to. La Nina had somewhat put a stop to that last season.

Victoria seems to get a consistent wind but it will probably take you a couple of years and a good wetsuit to acclimatise to their arctic conditions.

So I guess in regards to the question what state? I guess the only place that has reliable conditions year around is Maui, Hawaii.
joe windsurf
joe windsurf
1482 posts
1482 posts
8 Apr 2011 7:03am
guess again
you need to be specific
i sail year round in Canada, butt built my winter sleds for ice n snow myself
in the winter i rarely need to go over 7.5 :-)
due to my weight - 8.5 is my sail of preference in the summer

so, come on over :-)

joewindsurfer.blogspot.com
lao shi
lao shi
WA
1346 posts
WA, 1346 posts
8 Apr 2011 7:47am
Last winter we had 3 months of no wind. Don't come here.
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
8 Apr 2011 10:04am
how about here ?

Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
TAS, 2317 posts
8 Apr 2011 11:20am
Richie - great pic, which state is that? Ah, small island ...must be Tasmania! And there's Hobart!
Do you reckon they're looking for a lighthouse keeper? I presume the shorter structure is the pub/windsurf shop...
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
8 Apr 2011 11:25am
I'd imagine in Australia Tasmania would be the go as long as you can put up with winter's cold weather and short days.

Why not consider New Zealand and Wellington? The main issue would be you are earning NZ dollars which are being worth less and less compared to the Aussie dollar as time goes on. Plus people talk funny over there.



KenHo
KenHo
NSW
1353 posts
NSW, 1353 posts
8 Apr 2011 1:34pm
Newcastle area seems to have had a ton of wind over the last year, as does Woolongong/Kiama/Gerroa area.

I think it's hard to combine "working in the city" with "sailing after work".
I think less metropolitan areas are more likely to give you sailing after work.
Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
708 posts
WA, 708 posts
8 Apr 2011 11:57am
Adelaide is pretty good. You can get consistent seabreezes in summer, and storm fronts through the rest of the year. Before I became an office jerk I could sail a few times a week in summer on a 4.5 and plenty of sessions through the winter. Never owned a sail over 5.2 until I moved to QLD. I think Adelaide metro would rival Perth metro for conditions, plus it's less crowded on the water.
Little Jon
Little Jon
NSW
2115 posts
NSW, 2115 posts
8 Apr 2011 2:56pm
How about the welfare state
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23649 posts
WA, 23649 posts
8 Apr 2011 1:00pm
I think Tassie. 9 months of frontal activity. Even the weak ones must be 6.5 weather?
I'd be interested to hear from the Tassie guys how much they get out as it looks like cold fronts all of spring and autumn when the rest of us have nothing


But the cold (when sailing) would get to you if you'd lived elsewhere in Oz all your life. So I pick WA. Last winter was crap but considering the 7.5 max size in the original question: in a normal year you'd get out every day in summer if you wanted (each week say 4 morning easterlies on river and 3 seabreezes on ocean) and you'd do at least weekly in winter.
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
8 Apr 2011 2:54pm
Adelaide is good for Summer seabreezes and winter storm fronts as mentioned by Squidlips, the city centre is only 11kms from the beach, so if its blowing you could be on it in 45 minutes or so (semaphore, seacliff etc)

Has been an ok season, lots of wind if you are prepared to travel, seems to have been plenty of SE winds this year, so Sellicks has been the go most weekends, sweetest, cleanest beach in the world to sail at....

Not so windy May - June or September - October, thats why SUPS were invented.

shear tip
shear tip
NSW
1125 posts
NSW, 1125 posts
8 Apr 2011 5:24pm
Oregon, USA
russh
russh
SA
3027 posts
SA, 3027 posts
8 Apr 2011 5:53pm
Can.t comment on the rest of Aus but I usually sail a couple of times a week winter spring summer and autumn and miss afew cause of work around adelaide.


You can wave sail, lakes and B&J - you need a 6.3 and a big freestyle board for the lighter seabreezes tho -through to 4.2 or smaller for the ballistic days - and we had a few this summer and theres heaps of remote coast to chase if your keen.

Its a nice spot to call home
izaak
izaak
TAS
2013 posts
TAS, 2013 posts
8 Apr 2011 6:40pm
Tassie is the go i could sail here most of the time if school and work wasn't in the way. You guys just need to harden up and you will have some epic sails threw winter as well.Not to mention some of the epic wave spots too, just a few places below:

http://www.nomadic.net.au/Nomadic_Wavesailing/Locations.html

then you have the flat stuff:
Henty River
Stanley
Port Sorell
Montagu
and thats just a few of them
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
8 Apr 2011 8:58pm
shear tip said...

Oregon, USA


Oh well, Honolulu, HI, USA.

Similar problem to New Zealand though. People talk funny and you will paid in a currency that is depreciating against the Aussie dollar.

decrepit
decrepit
WA
12873 posts
WA, 12873 posts
8 Apr 2011 7:14pm
Have a browse thru the GTC,
www.gpsteamchallenge.com.au/index.php?country=1
you can compare each state's teams posts.
www.gpsteamchallenge.com.au/rankings/year?country=1&year=2010
Might give you some idea.
But when you compare the pit crew to the mandurah mob, remember they're sailing at the pit, which is a much better speed venue than we have. (and it's likely they have better sailors).
waynos
waynos
TAS
171 posts
TAS, 171 posts
8 Apr 2011 9:28pm
Good to see a couple of blokes sticking their hand up for Tassie, but when I lived in SA I didn't sail but loved fishing and I used to get right royally annoyed at how windy it was all the time. SA or TAS in my opinion deliver some great all year round sailing if you've got a fresh supply of cement pills.
izaak
izaak
TAS
2013 posts
TAS, 2013 posts
8 Apr 2011 10:03pm
I like this ranking...
www.gpsteamchallenge.com.au/rankings/year?country=1&year=2011
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12873 posts
WA, 12873 posts
8 Apr 2011 8:21pm

I'm not surprised Izack, but we're only a quarter into the year.
izaak
izaak
TAS
2013 posts
TAS, 2013 posts
9 Apr 2011 9:33am
I know, now ive probably jinxed it
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
TAS, 2317 posts
10 Apr 2011 4:48am
Nobody has spoken for QLD yet!
wormy
wormy
QLD
679 posts
QLD, 679 posts
10 Apr 2011 6:58am
Bowen North Qld, just north of Whitsundays.
We sail all year, very rarely does it go for more than 2 weeks without wind, 7.3 was my max. Now I don't bother unless its 6.3. This time of year we can have weeks on end of 20-30knts, november dec are the sadest with some gutless northerlies, although with 7.5 theres still a sail.
Three beaches in 5 mins of each other that cover north to south east wind. All within 3 mins of town.
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
10 Apr 2011 7:48am
wormy said...

Bowen North Qld, just north of Whitsundays.
We sail all year, very rarely does it go for more than 2 weeks without wind, 7.3 was my max. Now I don't bother unless its 6.3. This time of year we can have weeks on end of 20-30knts, november dec are the sadest with some gutless northerlies, although with 7.5 theres still a sail.
Three beaches in 5 mins of each other that cover north to south east wind. All within 3 mins of town.

Wow, never heard of a sailor from Bowen. Was stuck there for a full month (hit a roo, partial wreck) many years ago. Wind was about dead in November indeed, else very quaint a place.
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
10 Apr 2011 2:18pm
I go for the south coast of WA. Where I am (Albany) anywhere between ENE through to W is a sea breeze, plus you get the SW frontal stuff through Winter. Esperance is probably even a little better. All the plebs in those places know that family beach activities must be planned for the morning coz you'll be blown off the beach in the arvo. As for water, both places offer everything from flat, protected water, to open ocean, to good surf beaches. You get the bluest water and whitest sand in the world and if you live more than 5km from the beach you're a farmer - and even some of them live by the beach! Not a lot of days each year with <20kts.

My 2c worth
Disndale
vando
vando
QLD
3419 posts
QLD, 3419 posts
10 Apr 2011 9:52pm
Wet Willy said...

Nobody has spoken for QLD yet!


Haha yer probably because it been one of our wost seasons.
But generally we do get on the water a fair bit just need a flexible job .
We don't get the strong fronts like our southern states do the wind is mostly around 15-20 so Big to medium gear required.
we have our good and bad years.

GazMan
GazMan
WA
848 posts
WA, 848 posts
11 Apr 2011 11:40pm
dinsdale said...

I go for the south coast of WA. Where I am (Albany) anywhere between ENE through to W is a sea breeze, plus you get the SW frontal stuff through Winter. Esperance is probably even a little better. All the plebs in those places know that family beach activities must be planned for the morning coz you'll be blown off the beach in the arvo. As for water, both places offer everything from flat, protected water, to open ocean, to good surf beaches. You get the bluest water and whitest sand in the world and if you live more than 5km from the beach you're a farmer - and even some of them live by the beach! Not a lot of days each year with <20kts.

My 2c worth
Disndale


I'm biased coz I live in Albany too:
PROS
- Population of around 34000 (in 2009), 6th largest city in WA
- Largest natural harbour in Western Australia and also on the entire south coast of the Australian mainland, outside of Melbourne (source: wikipedia)
- Can sail in ANY wind direction on flat water or open ocean with max 1/2 hr drive from town (most popular windsurfing spots are no more than 15 mins from town)
- Totally uncrowded ocean beaches and harbour waterways (average rough estimate of around 10-12 regular windsurfers with around the same number of kitesurfers split between ocean and harbour spots on a normal 15-25 knot seabreeze day)
- Possibly some of the best coastal scenery and beaches anywhere
- The past four months have been very windy, definitely the windiest summer & autumn I have experienced in 11 years

CONS
- No easily accessible or sailable surf beaches (nearest is around 60km away in Denmark), just freeride, freestyle or bump n' jump sailing
- Nearest windsurf shops in Perth 400 km away
- Water is cool all year round (refreshing in summer but chilly in winter!)
- Winds can be very gusty and near unsailable in winter months (have have good sails in winter on occasions though)
- When the weather is lousy, there's not that much to do!

Bit different to Esperance town which is pretty much unsailable in any wind from the North or West where wind becomes very gusty (offshore), also quite isolated and small compared to Albany/Denmark area. Esperance does have stunning beaches though and is a great holiday destination for families.

Other considerations would be the type of work you do as well as keeping the wife & kids happy if you're not alone!
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