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ratz
ratz
WA
481 posts
WA, 481 posts
29 Nov 2010 3:34pm
Have made the decision to replace my much loved ute with a van. so t hought i would ask the experts on seabreeze the pro,s and cons of various types. the vans i am looking at are. the mercedes vito 109 the vw transporter or the i load.any advice/critical feedback appriciated.
sideskirt
sideskirt
328 posts
328 posts
29 Nov 2010 8:22pm
VW transporter is the way to go, I don't know about the i load, but definatelym Vito has less equipment than VW. Good sizes of cargo space on both though... 2584mm length is more or less great, but if you decide for lwb its 2940mm...
KazeRonin
KazeRonin
WA
11 posts
WA, 11 posts
29 Nov 2010 8:51pm
Ive got a 2006 Toyota Hi-ace (2.7.litre petrol); had it about a year - pretty rapt with it - its pretty nippy for a van. Only negative I can find wrong with it; is that the passenger seat isnt adjustable, and not too good for taller people - otherwise highly recommend.
kiwibro
kiwibro
WA
175 posts
WA, 175 posts
29 Nov 2010 10:30pm
I got a vito 111 (get the bigger engine not a 109) lwb auto. Goes a treat..What I spent on petrol a week for a 4wd lasts me 3 weeks with the Merc on Diesel.
A 11'2"sup fits up the middle between the front seats. They are amazingly easy to park, and cruise forever at 100, 110kph..Mine was ex demo, had 20,000 km on the clock.
For the same money I could have got a brand new 2009 model vw manual 2 litre petrol....
but a diesel vw and an auto was beyond what I was willing to spend.

things against..its white but you get used to that.
no passengers air bag
the radio was crap so had a more upmarket unit installed.
keep forgetting where the bonnet catch is.

what can I say ..i luv it...could do with some alloys

but I would have got a vw if it had what the Merc had diesel auto etc and the price had been the same..but thats more about nostalga I think






bel29
bel29
413 posts
413 posts
30 Nov 2010 4:49am
+1 for the vito! here's mine, a 115 extra long. just fantastic to drive, and it looks so much better than the vw


o, and it can carry a ton of gear too


WindRider
WindRider
QLD
839 posts
QLD, 839 posts
30 Nov 2010 8:57am
I bought a long wheel base VW transporter T5 earlier this year. I wanted a van I could fit at least 6 boards and sails with a bed and bench seat to get changed on.
There has been some slight changes since the photos below.


WindmanV
WindmanV
VIC
819 posts
VIC, 819 posts
30 Nov 2010 10:03am
Hello, Ratz,

There are many ways of analysing if a certain van is good for you, amongst them:

K.I.S.S.

Cost per cubic metre of storage space

Advertsied unloaded weight divided by advertised maximum power for that engine (has more relevance if you then compare the answer to your current vehicle).

Warranty period and particularly if it covers body rust.

As a general rule, Euro vans are expensive to fix outside the warranty period (I have one). Too early to comment about iLoads.

How close is the dealer to you?

Hope this helps.
jermaldan
jermaldan
VIC
1572 posts
VIC, 1572 posts
30 Nov 2010 10:35am
I have imported a Nissan Elgrand from Japan. I pick it up in 10 days, but what you get for your money is Awesome.

It cost me $20K (on the road) and the list of features is incredible. I got quoted $600 for insurance from Just cars.

Reverse camera, smart key, keyless start, 2 sliding doors (one automatic), part leather, list goes on and on.....









K Dog
K Dog
VIC
1847 posts
VIC, 1847 posts
30 Nov 2010 12:08pm
jermaldan said...

I have imported a Nissan Elgrand from Japan. I pick it up in 10 days, but what you get for your money is Awesome.

It cost me $20K (on the road) and the list of features is incredible. I got quoted $600 for insurance from Just cars.

Reverse camera, smart key, keyless start, 2 sliding doors (one automatic), part leather, list goes on and on.....












There is a song about this...... something like:

"....every body is talking about the new pimp in town........ the new pimp in town...."

jermaldan
jermaldan
VIC
1572 posts
VIC, 1572 posts
30 Nov 2010 12:14pm
K Dog said...


"....every body is talking about the new pimp in town........ the new pimp in town...."




Plenty for room in there for all my ho's and Bro's.

You'll be pimpin' the passenger seat with me dude:P
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
30 Nov 2010 12:33pm
I first saw Elgrands in Hong Kong. The celebs, movie stars, hanger oners and wannabees get around in them. They are truely impressive looking vehicles. For $20K they probably are a lot cheaper than a comparable second hand Euro van and the parts are most likely just as easy or hard to get.

Are you going to take the seats out of yours or can they be folded out of the way?

pepe47
pepe47
WA
1382 posts
WA, 1382 posts
30 Nov 2010 9:47am
If you do fold the seats down, I'd be interested to know the length from the tailgate to the back of the front seats.
Ian K
Ian K
WA
4169 posts
WA, 4169 posts
30 Nov 2010 10:17am
Did ferry duty with a brand new Toyota Hiace commuter van last night. Diesel. Smooth as, both empty or crammed with bods. New cars! get one. You can get them without back seats.
jermaldan
jermaldan
VIC
1572 posts
VIC, 1572 posts
30 Nov 2010 2:04pm
Mobydisc said...

I first saw Elgrands in Hong Kong. The celebs, movie stars, hanger oners and wannabees get around in them. They are truely impressive looking vehicles. For $20K they probably are a lot cheaper than a comparable second hand Euro van and the parts are most likely just as easy or hard to get.

Are you going to take the seats out of yours or can they be folded out of the way?




It all depends how easily the middle row are removed. They swivel around so you can get them out of the way easily enough. The back ones fold away. to the sides.

Also you can get a completely flat bed if you fold all 4 seats back.

I have inquired about parts and maintenance and the engine is out of a maxima 3.5 lt V6 quad cam. The chassis and drive train are from a nissan navara. There is a growing community here of them in Melbourne and there are more and more popping up every day. Mine took 5 weeks from the moment I said yes to buying one. There are heaps more in NSW and Parramatta road dealers have plenty from what I hear.

jermaldan
jermaldan
VIC
1572 posts
VIC, 1572 posts
30 Nov 2010 2:05pm
pepe47 said...

If you do fold the seats down, I'd be interested to know the length from the tailgate to the back of the front seats.


When I get it I will do an accurate measurement but from what I am told its about 260cm.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
30 Nov 2010 2:22pm
jermaldan said...

Mobydisc said...

I first saw Elgrands in Hong Kong. The celebs, movie stars, hanger oners and wannabees get around in them. They are truely impressive looking vehicles. For $20K they probably are a lot cheaper than a comparable second hand Euro van and the parts are most likely just as easy or hard to get.

Are you going to take the seats out of yours or can they be folded out of the way?




It all depends how easily the middle row are removed. They swivel around so you can get them out of the way easily enough. The back ones fold away. to the sides.

Also you can get a completely flat bed if you fold all 4 seats back.

I have inquired about parts and maintenance and the engine is out of a maxima 3.5 lt V6 quad cam. The chassis and drive train are from a nissan navara. There is a growing community here of them in Melbourne and there are more and more popping up every day. Mine took 5 weeks from the moment I said yes to buying one. There are heaps more in NSW and Parramatta road dealers have plenty from what I hear.




Yeah its similar with the Delica scene. They are built up from parts that are available here but there will be parts that are model specific. I saw Elgrands when shopping for a Delica but they were quite expensive, close to $40K. I eventually picked up my Delica for a bit under $10K. Its not as fancy as the Elgrand but its quite nice and its good offroad.

Fair chance as time goes on we will see more Elgrands on the road as they make the likes of the Tarago look very very plain.



keef
keef
NSW
2016 posts
NSW, 2016 posts
30 Nov 2010 5:25pm
the best way to find out is have a look at what the taxi companies are using, i havent had any problems with my 1997 Toyota commuter and its duel fuel,
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