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Bertie
Bertie
NSW
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NSW, 1351 posts
19 Aug 2008 7:17pm
anyone else notice the silver 08 JP wave board in the garage at the beginning of the ad leaning up against the wall??
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
19 Aug 2008 7:47pm
Bertie said...

anyone else notice the silver 08 JP wave board in the garage at the beginning of the ad leaning up against the wall??


Nope, haven't seen the ad. Its time for windsurfers to support Mitsubishi. If you are thinking about buying a car think about a Mitsubishi. They are great cars and the new Lancer is a smart looking vehicle too.


Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
19 Aug 2008 9:49pm
Sadly, I did see it!?! Where was the rest of the quiver?
sick_em_rex
sick_em_rex
NSW
1601 posts
NSW, 1601 posts
19 Aug 2008 11:53pm
whatabout the old windaction glass board in the back of the old wagon in the new Commodore sportwagon ad???
And Moby, why on earth should we support Mitsubishi???
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
20 Aug 2008 7:16am
sick_em_rex said...

whatabout the old windaction glass board in the back of the old wagon in the new Commodore sportwagon ad???
And Moby, why on earth should we support Mitsubishi???


Coz they are promoting our sport a bit?


russh
russh
SA
3027 posts
SA, 3027 posts
20 Aug 2008 8:09am
Ask 400 South Australian motor vehicle workers what they think of Mitsubishi.

why they couldn't manufacture some of the popular models here is pretty hard to understand.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
20 Aug 2008 12:28pm
I agree with what you are saying but that seems to be the lot of the Australian car industry. They are geared up to build larger sedans and wagons and these cars are not selling much anymore.

I've talked to people about this and it would have been better if Mitsubishi had built a different car to the 380, something like a Lancer or Colt. Perhaps the head office said no because these cars are made in Japan and thats that.

I reckon Ford is on a winner by building the Focus in Australia. They are guaranteed a huge government and public sector market now as the Focus will be the smallest and cheapest Australian car. Toyota won't ship as many Camrys to this market now. So Ford is changing from only making Falcons and Territories. Holden is still only making Commodores here but you get die hard Holden fans, even when the Holden is cheapo Korean car. Mitsubishi couldn't do that with the 380. I think a 380 on gas would be a great vehicle thats cheap to run.
CJW
CJW
NSW
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20 Aug 2008 8:11pm
Ford making the focus here might just save them. The biggest difference between Mitsu Aus, Ford Aus and Holden is the amount Holden export. They export half the cars they make these days. Then there's the engine export side of things. They are not as reliant on the Australian car climate for survival.
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
20 Aug 2008 10:26pm
i reckon sales for falcon/commodore competitors would double if only they would make them rear wheel drive. front wheel drive is for ladies
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
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21 Aug 2008 12:18am
Um...car...wheel...?

Drive...?

Ugh, me no know-um what-um you-a talk-um but it soundee purdy good...
Bertie
Bertie
NSW
1351 posts
NSW, 1351 posts
21 Aug 2008 1:10am
so give me a real reason why u dont drive wet willy??

not-driving and windsurfing what kinda combo is that?? do you live in a beach shack???
nobody
nobody
NSW
437 posts
NSW, 437 posts
21 Aug 2008 1:14am
Haircut said...

i reckon sales for falcon/commodore competitors would double if only they would make them rear wheel drive. front wheel drive is for ladies
FWD is for anyone who still wants to be pointing in the same direction when exiting a corner they have just over-cooked. RWD without ESP is simply dangerous.

P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
20 Aug 2008 11:17pm
Lake macquarie has a big bill board advertising a new suburb by the lake, it has a guy windsurfing on slalom gear only a few years old on it to, is this the return of the windsurfing craze of the 80's? or are we just deperate to find signs that our great sport is still getting noticed? hmm makes you wonder...
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
21 Aug 2008 5:53am
I saw that sign a month or so ago when up at Newcastle, close to the airport. The sailor is really going for it. Looks like a good place to live. If the development is by the lake then it will be a great place to live.

Haggar
Haggar
QLD
1670 posts
QLD, 1670 posts
21 Aug 2008 8:34am
sick_em_rex said...

whatabout the old windaction glass board in the back of the old wagon in the new Commodore sportwagon ad???
And Moby, why on earth should we support Mitsubishi???


Yes - bought back many fond memories
dism
dism
NSW
660 posts
NSW, 660 posts
21 Aug 2008 9:34am
got a link?

couldn't find it with a quick youtube search
timford
timford
NSW
510 posts
NSW, 510 posts
21 Aug 2008 10:38am
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/pages/home.aspx#/web/Vehiclevideos.aspx?id=4132&vehicle=lancer
Sorry link does not work, go to Lancer/experience/video
Charles
Charles
QLD
64 posts
QLD, 64 posts
21 Aug 2008 11:30am
I got to say it is one homo ad. "Door locks door unlocks"... well it must be one great car... not.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
21 Aug 2008 1:04pm
Charles said...

I got to say it is one homo ad. "Door locks door unlocks"... well it must be one great car... not.


At least its better than the Holden ad where they show a bunch of Korean cars and tell you how Aussie they are.



sflack
sflack
VIC
574 posts
VIC, 574 posts
21 Aug 2008 2:24pm
Here it is for all the people that havnt seen it... its in the left corner of his shed... near the golfclubs.
"door locks..."


Charles
Charles
QLD
64 posts
QLD, 64 posts
21 Aug 2008 3:02pm
Mobydisc said...

Charles said...

I got to say it is one homo ad. "Door locks door unlocks"... well it must be one great car... not.


At least its better than the Holden ad where they show a bunch of Korean cars and tell you how Aussie they are.






True, but since I drive a Holden, and the doors still lock and unlock five years on, its still a good car. Unlike the lancer I have to turn the headlights on myself so it can be tought at times.
Spearsy
Spearsy
SA
213 posts
SA, 213 posts
21 Aug 2008 5:11pm
Get a subaru
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
WA, 7733 posts
21 Aug 2008 3:44pm
Where does he stick his board when driving

Roof racks on, roof racks off, rook racks on, roof racks off, roof racks on, roof racks off...
nobody
nobody
NSW
437 posts
NSW, 437 posts
21 Aug 2008 6:59pm
nobody said...

Haircut said...

i reckon sales for falcon/commodore competitors would double if only they would make them rear wheel drive. front wheel drive is for ladies
FWD is for anyone who still wants to be pointing in the same direction when exiting a corner they have just over-cooked. RWD without ESP is simply dangerous.


RWD is for more weight.
RWD is for more transmission losses.
RWD is for less traction on slippery surfaces.
On the limit I'd rather be in a FWD or AWD (dynamics similar).

Bertie
Bertie
NSW
1351 posts
NSW, 1351 posts
21 Aug 2008 8:08pm
i'm not so sure i agree with you nobody

FWD uses CV joints which equal higher maintenance and greater loss of power
RWD = mid mounted gearbox which balances up the weight distribution and makes for better handling even iff overall weight is slightly increased.

why is RWD less tractable on slippery surfaces?? if this was the case all race cars would be FWD coz they are mostly traction limited.

not all AWD cars are equal. I raced rally in a mitsubishi evo 0 ( or galant VR4 as they are known) and with its 60% front drive and engine gearbox mounted in front of the front wheels it made for some crazy out of control situations that a WRX would have made piss, due to the low slung aft positioned boxer motor and mid mounted gearbox. offline it became a plow and you couldnt flick the rear end even with the hand brake coz the tail had no momentum.

Ever seen a a high powered FWD car (over 500Hp)??
i didnt think so. Anything with big power runs a live rear axle.
aus301
aus301
QLD
2039 posts
QLD, 2039 posts
21 Aug 2008 9:22pm
CJW said...

The biggest difference between Mitsu Aus, Ford Aus and Holden is the amount Holden export. They export half the cars they make these days. Then there's the engine export side of things.


Holden do have a reasonable export market for the Commodore, however the sales of the Monaro (Pontiac GTO in the states and Vauxhall in the UK) were poor enough to stop production.
Not sure about the engine export comment, the Alloytec is made in Australia, however it is produced in far greater numbers in Canada and the US. The L98 V8 in current Commodores is also produced OS.

As for not seeing a 500HP front wheel drive, here is a 498FWHP (gets that dyno read at the end of the video) Honda Civic from the states http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=CD86FB97-62E9-4637-9743-42A8DB0C66A5 . There are some huge HP front wheel drive cars around but admittedly they are usually running them in drag racing so they don't really need to turn.

nobody
nobody
NSW
437 posts
NSW, 437 posts
21 Aug 2008 10:03pm
Bertie said...

i'm not so sure i agree with you nobody

FWD uses CV joints which equal higher maintenance and greater loss of power
RWD = mid mounted gearbox which balances up the weight distribution and makes for better handling even iff overall weight is slightly increased.

why is RWD less tractable on slippery surfaces?? if this was the case all race cars would be FWD coz they are mostly traction limited.

not all AWD cars are equal. I raced rally in a mitsubishi evo 0 ( or galant VR4 as they are known) and with its 60% front drive and engine gearbox mounted in front of the front wheels it made for some crazy out of control situations that a WRX would have made piss, due to the low slung aft positioned boxer motor and mid mounted gearbox. offline it became a plow and you couldnt flick the rear end even with the hand brake coz the tail had no momentum.

Ever seen a a high powered FWD car (over 500Hp)??
i didnt think so. Anything with big power runs a live rear axle.

You don't have to agree with me, but I invite you to prove me wrong. This has been debated before on car forums and the information is out there. I'm not going to be bothered again to source it. You can however try to source the information to prove my statements wrong.
nobody
nobody
NSW
437 posts
NSW, 437 posts
21 Aug 2008 10:15pm
Actually on second thought, this is a windsurfing forum so don't bother. I couldn't be bothered replying if you did find some info.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
21 Aug 2008 10:26pm


They spend so much time and money developing it, yet it is not front wheel drive!!! Idiots!!!

And then those German idiots go an put the engine in the back too!!! How can you possibly get better cornering like that!?!?!? Imagine what would happen when you take off, all that weight over the ... rear... oh.

Well what about cornering? put your foot down on the apex... you would weight the rear wheels... and then... oh.
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My friend sold his WRX because it was "too boring". Nothing could catch it through roundabouts though.
Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
708 posts
WA, 708 posts
21 Aug 2008 8:35pm
The only reasons FWD exists is because it's cheaper to manufacture FWD cars and easier to get more passenger space in a smaller car.

I know you don't want to argue this but you surely can't believe that a vehicle relying on two wheels to provide grip for steering and propulsion has better traction than one splitting the tasks.
P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
21 Aug 2008 8:57pm
but how does the guy in the lancer get that board to the beach? it's a sedan and where is his rigs? every keen sailor knows you keep all your gear in one place so you can make a quick gettaway to the beach. so unrealistic..
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