learning blues...

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Trousers
Trousers
SA
565 posts
SA, 565 posts
6 Feb 2011 10:19am
yesterday arriving at my local, it was probably just on eighteen but quite rough due to the direction.

i rigged my 5.8 and hit the water. Koshi told me there was a guy out the back who seemed to be in trouble, and we couldn't see his sail. a rain squall appeared and the wind went off the scale. i was overpowered and struggling to get comfortable in the ridiculous chop.

i found the guy out the back - he was in trouble. caught in a huge wind gust, he couldn't waterstart, kept going over the handlebars. i gave him some advice (glad was wearing a helmet and flotation vest) that wouldn't be best practice but should at least get him home.

later i saw him getting rag dolled; waterstart - splat. waterstart-splat. in this agonizing way he got to shore and walked home. would have been a long afternoon.

i didn't get a chance to talk to him again but i just really wanted to say to everyone starting out, that we all have gone thru this - caught out when the conditions are either misread or turn nuclear. beginners can be put off...you definitely come to your next session timidly. don't be discouraged - getting home in severely overpowered conditions happens to us all, and with a little technique (i call survival sailing) it's all do-able.

in my experience, windsurfers always look out for each other. you wear the right safety gear and don't go sailing alone, and we'll always make sure you get home.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
6 Feb 2011 1:17pm
Been there
razzmatazz
razzmatazz
NSW
184 posts
NSW, 184 posts
6 Feb 2011 1:38pm
am there
Mecky
Mecky
NSW
56 posts
NSW, 56 posts
7 Feb 2011 10:27am
razzmatazz said...

am there


...me 2 ...
jermaldan
jermaldan
VIC
1572 posts
VIC, 1572 posts
7 Feb 2011 12:43pm
Me 3.

It is so hard starting out and especially being a position where you are still getting used to deep water starts (in chop) and learning to gybe etc...

Its good to hear that there are windsurfers out there are looking out for one another.

When I feel out of my depth I go for the bigger board, and its become sort of my comfort blanket. Its gotten to the point that the big board has become an anchor for me stopping me from taking the next step. Thanks to helpful experienced windsurfers the days where I do take risks at least i know that someone is watching my back.

Never sail alone.
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
NSW, 2568 posts
7 Feb 2011 12:59pm
aahh the memories.
evilC
evilC
QLD
682 posts
QLD, 682 posts
7 Feb 2011 12:28pm
and the scars...


DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
NSW, 1510 posts
7 Feb 2011 1:36pm
Try memorising the pentatonic scales - starting with the e-minor
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
7 Feb 2011 12:52pm
DavMen said...

Try memorising the pentatonic scales - starting with the e-minor


Listen to lots of Howllin Wolf ,Hound dog Taylor, and Muddy Waters.Take up smoking and drink lots of Bourbon.
crustysailor
crustysailor
VIC
871 posts
VIC, 871 posts
7 Feb 2011 2:06pm
Mecky said...

razzmatazz said...

am there


...me 2 ...


I'm not even 1/2 way there.
The god's just don't like me at the moment.
No wind, too much wind, kids birthdays,etc etc.
this weekend for sure....as if.
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
NSW, 1510 posts
7 Feb 2011 2:15pm
crustysailor said...

Mecky said...

razzmatazz said...

am there


...me 2 ...


I'm not even 1/2 way there.
The god's just don't like me at the moment.
No wind, too much wind, kids birthdays,etc etc.
this weekend for sure....as if.


Now you're singing the blues......

Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
7 Feb 2011 1:35pm
DavMen said...

crustysailor said...

Mecky said...

razzmatazz said...

am there


...me 2 ...


I'm not even 1/2 way there.
The god's just don't like me at the moment.
No wind, too much wind, kids birthdays,etc etc.
this weekend for sure....as if.


Now you're singing the blues......




ha ha.(they say you have to live the blues to sing the blues)
MikeyS
MikeyS
VIC
1509 posts
VIC, 1509 posts
7 Feb 2011 6:51pm
Woke up this morning Da Dah Da Dah
Wind begin to howl Da Dah Da Da
Gotta chose my rig right Da Dah Da
Goin sailin' now

I got da blues
I got da sailing blues
I ain't got no 4 twos
I got da sailing blues

Little fin on my waveboard Da Dah Dh Dah
Got my downhaul tight Da Dah Da Dah
Gonna have me some some action Da Dah Da Dah
I ain't talking tonight

Oh, I got da blues
I got da sailing blues
Ain't got no sailin shoes
Just got these sailin blues
MikeyS
MikeyS
VIC
1509 posts
VIC, 1509 posts
7 Feb 2011 8:04pm
Whitewater rinse cycle Da Dah Da Dah
Can't get through the break Da Dah Da Dah
Gotta learn me to waterstart
How long will that take?

Still got these blues
I got these learning blues
Ain't got no slick moves
Just got these learning blues

Then a crusty old number
He sails up to me
"Just do what I do, son"
Gotta lesson for free

Whoa ain't got no blues
I'm past my learnin blues
Going out for a cruise
With no learning blues.
sharkbiscuit
sharkbiscuit
820 posts
820 posts
7 Feb 2011 6:12pm
Was that at Boggy lake Shane ?
Trousers
Trousers
SA
565 posts
SA, 565 posts
8 Feb 2011 9:36pm
sharkbiscuit said...

Was that at Boggy lake Shane ?


yup. seriously windy squalls had whipped the chop to ocean size which was killing the poor dude trying to float his sail in it. it calmed down after a while, and then became a lot more fun.

although i think it also claimed koshi who made some strange gestures from shore to me suggesting he'd hurt himself in it.
sharkbiscuit
sharkbiscuit
820 posts
820 posts
8 Feb 2011 10:42pm
I remember Koshi's first session at North Haven. God that was funny (an array of gestures )
koshi
koshi
SA
202 posts
SA, 202 posts
10 Feb 2011 1:00am
Shane that gesture was, i think i broke my Tibia on an insane catapult, and was heading to Barker hospital for a scan! That guy who was in trouble finally made it in, and helped me pack my gear. he was saying he needs to practice his water starts, in wind less nuclear!!!!! all i remember was that my shin felt a bit mooshy!
sharkbiscuit
sharkbiscuit
820 posts
820 posts
9 Feb 2011 10:40pm
Ahh.. sorry to hear that K. I might head to Milang this weekend if the silly wind direction keeps up. Less cow **** and the ramps are better
Trousers
Trousers
SA
565 posts
SA, 565 posts
10 Feb 2011 9:25am
koshi said...

all i remember was that my shin felt a bit mooshy!


ouch. hopefully you're good for this weekend! the BOM suggests we've got some good winds coming.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
10 Feb 2011 7:11pm
Trousers said...
i didn't get a chance to talk to him again but i just really wanted to say to everyone starting out, that we all have gone thru this - caught out when the conditions are either misread or turn nuclear. beginners can be put off...you definitely come to your next session timidly. don't be discouraged - getting home in severely overpowered conditions happens to us all, and with a little technique (i call survival sailing) it's all do-able.


I would like to add to everyone starting out that these situations are some of the best you'll have in your life. You go beyond learning how to windsurf and you learn about yourself. You learn how to slow your mind down in what can be intense, scary, regrettable situations and think clearly and accurately. Later you'll find yourself using the same techniques in your everyday life.

That's what I love about this sport. Sure you learn how to windsurf, waterstart, carve gybe, chop-hop, ...push-loop to forward, but it's all the other incidental things you learn along the way too. Knowing what the wind will be like in the afternoon by its speed and direction when you wake up. Knowing where the moon is at any given time (amaze your friends). Knowing your local spots intimately, every bank, rock and what works where in what conditions. Learning some meteorology. Learning about aerodynamics and hydrodynamics (well, a little).

But most of all I love what I've learnt about myself. How to control myself. This comes from a number of times like that described above. Finding yourself well overpowered, or well underpowered, that one time you thought you might sail out as far as you dare. And now you're stuck. And nobody can see you. Except the big fish. And you have exhausted yourself. And you have almost drowned a few times now trying to get that damn sail up, or you keep going over and over and over.

Then you take a break and decide to focus. Really focus. You put your fear to the side and slowly, carefully, calmly you finally get back up and sail home.

... or you just swim in and do the walk of shame.

Either way it won't be so bad next time.

I find myself going into the same state of mind at work when I'm really overloaded,. and I don't know what the **** I'm doing, and little things keep going wrong and side-tracking you, all day. I slow my mind down and concentrate on accuracy and getting one thing done at a time. I learnt this from being rag-dolled out the back.

Apologies: long post.

P.S. I bet none of you bastards that red-thumbed my really long incest joke in the general forums read the last sentence. I was Luke Skywalker all along.

Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
10 Feb 2011 9:25pm
If only he had used his windsurfing powers for good, instead of evil........
koshi
koshi
SA
202 posts
SA, 202 posts
10 Feb 2011 10:18pm
Shane and J,

CUT SICK!!! Nursie said i just put a divot on the side of my Tibia, {another one!} just the muscles around it got pulverized. So see ya on the week end!
[Thinks] mite wear some shin guards under my wettie
sharkbiscuit
sharkbiscuit
820 posts
820 posts
10 Feb 2011 9:42pm
Nursie said i just put a divot on the side of my Tibia

I don't believe it !!



PS/ I've got some shin guards if you want them.
BIGKYM
BIGKYM
SA
127 posts
SA, 127 posts
11 Feb 2011 1:54pm

[Thinks] mite wear some shin guards under my wettie


Geezzz Koshi, shin guards/mouth guard/groin guard, think ya should take up a less violent sport.....
Mask
Mask
WA
293 posts
WA, 293 posts
19 Feb 2011 7:36am
windsurfing is for girls. Try kiting-a sport for men.
BIGKYM
BIGKYM
SA
127 posts
SA, 127 posts
19 Feb 2011 10:22am
Mask said...

windsurfing is for girls. Try knitting-a sport for men.


KenHo
KenHo
NSW
1353 posts
NSW, 1353 posts
19 Feb 2011 10:55am
If you haven't had the **** beaten out of you by every piece of gear you own, and in return wished it all to nine kinds of hell, then you ain't been windsurfing.



Mask
Mask
WA
293 posts
WA, 293 posts
19 Feb 2011 8:05am
BIGKYM said...

Mask said...

windsurfing is for girls. Try knitting-a sport for men.





your right. Proably more exciting.
Mask
Mask
WA
293 posts
WA, 293 posts
20 Feb 2011 10:08am
24 hrs and no bites!
Impressive.
Try this on the kite forum and you will catch a school in a day.

Windsurfing rocks
BlueStorm
BlueStorm
WA
71 posts
WA, 71 posts
20 Feb 2011 4:13pm
ahaha ive been there too, i reckon if i added up all the catapults ive had i must have gone a km or so in total
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