Wooden windsurfer?

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paddymac
paddymac
WA
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19 Aug 2012 5:45pm
Yesterday I saw a canadian canoe that a mate had made from thin (1") strips of light weight timber with a coat of glass over top and bottom. The strips have a rounded tongue so they curve nicely top to bottom. I was surprised how light such a big canoe was - felt not much heavier than a wally. I was wondering if anyone has built a windsurfer (longboard) using this technique.
legless
legless
SA
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19 Aug 2012 7:26pm
15 odd years ago I saw a guy with one down at Palm Beach in Sydney he had build it himself it looked good but to get it looking that good he had put in a lot of work I think he was a guitar builder so used the same techniques. The problem with hollow boards and I sailed a few back in my Div11 days they get water in them.
lao shi
lao shi
WA
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19 Aug 2012 6:10pm
What about the *brd Serenity?
paddymac
paddymac
WA
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19 Aug 2012 6:24pm
lao shi said...

What about the *brd Serenity?



Something like that Mark, just not that expensive
Glitch
Glitch
QLD
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19 Aug 2012 8:37pm
I've made several. If you make them right water getting in isn't too much of a problem.




Simon100
Simon100
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19 Aug 2012 9:27pm
Glitch said...

I've made several. If you make them right water getting in isn't too much of a problem.







they look great , how much do they weighin and how are they constructed ?
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
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19 Aug 2012 10:34pm
"Did you hear about the wooden windsurfer with the wooden mast, wooden boom & wooden sail?"


".....wooden(t) go!"


(now, that kids - is what we call a 'dad's joke').

Btw Glitch - those boards look the goods!
Glitch
Glitch
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19 Aug 2012 11:14pm
Thanks Sailhack. The 2nd board has sugar for the deck grip. That is a mans board
The board in the second photo was made with a ply frame and ply bottom and deck with balsa & cedar rails. The other one also has a ply frame and then paulownia. Paulownia is the lightest wood to use that is water resistant, even so the weight works out at just over 1kg per 10 liters. Balsa can be used for the entire board that is comparable to a carbon board in weight and stiffness.
These photos are of the paulownia board.




The next board isn't mine, it is of another forum and is a 9' balsa slalom board that weighs 5kg.


desertyank
desertyank
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19 Aug 2012 11:02pm
Glitch said...

Thanks Sailhack. The 2nd board has sugar for the deck grip. That is a mans board
The board in the second photo was made with a ply frame and ply bottom and deck with balsa & cedar rails. The other one also has a ply frame and then paulownia. Paulownia is the lightest wood to use that is water resistant, even so the weight works out at just over 1kg per 10 liters. Balsa can be used for the entire board that is comparable to a carbon board in weight and stiffness.
These photos are of the paulownia board.




The next board isn't mine, it is of another forum and is a 9' balsa slalom board that weighs 5kg.





Beautiful Love the work!!!
pierrec45
pierrec45
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20 Aug 2012 1:14am
Beautiful and amazing.
What workmanship !
actiomax
actiomax
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20 Aug 2012 8:17am
Can I get the plans ? I wooden mind having a go at
Making 1 . Were do u get the timber ?
What's the materials cost ?
Cheers
nbr
nbr
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nbr nbr
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20 Aug 2012 8:30am
I have posted this before but the workmanship in this older timber board is great.

Glitch
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20 Aug 2012 8:27pm
actiomax said...

Can I get the plans ? I wooden mind having a go at
Making 1 . Were do u get the timber ?
What's the materials cost ?
Cheers

I got the wood from Port Philip Paulownia.I think that they would ship it for you. Don't know where in NSW you could get it. Western red cedar is also an option. At a guess the board nbr posted is probably WRC. I dont have plans as such but pm me with your email address and I'll send you the file. You will need to download AKU shaper and or board cad. For more information have a look at www.grainsurf.com/forum .
As far as the cost, here is a rough guess.
Paulownia 120
Plywood 30
Resin 50
Glass 50
Sand paper roller etc 30
Foot straps 40
Foot pads (yoga mat) 15
Mast track 10
Glue 10

paddymac
paddymac
WA
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20 Aug 2012 8:16pm
Top stuff Glitch. It was Paulownia my mate used for his canoe and worked a treat, great to see it can also work on windsurfers. Your boards look great, particularly the first one with Paulownia .

So does anyone have the designs for a Div II like a Lechner?
norcom
norcom
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21 Aug 2012 9:52am



Found this on ebay, thought you guys with the wood boards might like it.

Just kidding! Those boards look sweet!
Haggar
Haggar
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22 Aug 2012 8:43am
What awesome looking boards, very talented craftsmanship for sure !
Glitch
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22 Aug 2012 2:43pm
paddymac said...

Top stuff Glitch. It was Paulownia my mate used for his canoe and worked a treat, great to see it can also work on windsurfers. Your boards look great, particularly the first one with Paulownia.

So does anyone have the designs for a Div II like a Lechner?


I have been toying with the idea for a long board along the lines of an exocet d2. if I ever get round to making one I'll send you the details. If you do a search on the lbwindsurfing site there are some ideas by yagon for a similar board that he has drawn up. It might be worth contacting him for the details as that could easily be adapted for a wood build.
There are also some SUPs that work well. The Wood Surfboard Supply Company have a SUP with a sailboard conversion kit. woodsurfboardsupply.com/sailboard.html . There is also this thread http://grainsurf.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5051 for a racing SUP that is still in the prototype stage for the Wood Surfboard Supply Company that could posibly be converted to an efficient light wind board.
actiomax
actiomax
NSW
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22 Aug 2012 3:12pm
Thanks glitch your a legend .
Now all I have to do is get board cad to work .
Glitch
Glitch
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22 Aug 2012 3:16pm
Start off with AKUshaper. It is easier.
actiomax
actiomax
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23 Aug 2012 12:43pm
Just a thought would.2mm.x 50 mm stripes .of cedar. Be too thin
I work for a company that makes blinds they have long strips
4 mtr .for the mitred ship lap method
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
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23 Aug 2012 3:22pm
actiomax said...

Just a thought would.2mm.x 50 mm stripes .of cedar. Be too thin
I work for a company that makes blinds they have long strips
4 mtr .for the mitred ship lap method


Nope - no good...send them to me instead!

The thinner, possibly the better - but much more work.
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
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23 Aug 2012 6:04pm
I've got a Lechner sitting in NSW that I have been meaning to take the lines off. To be honest I can't see myself having the time, but if anyone who is interested happens to come through Sydney, the board is just a few klicks from the CBD and available for a measuring session.

Many years ago in the UK at a worlds I was offered a stunning wooden Brazilian D2 fresh from the world title podium, so they certainly can get going.
Glitch
Glitch
QLD
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23 Aug 2012 8:45pm
actiomax said...

Just a thought would.2mm.x 50 mm stripes .of cedar. Be too thin
I work for a company that makes blinds they have long strips
4 mtr .for the mitred ship lap method


Sounds like a lot of work. The minimum thickness should be no less than about 4mm. I usually go about 5 - 6mm when stripping the timber .

Out of curiosity, Norcom how much did they want for that ?
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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24 Aug 2012 3:39pm
They look awesome.

Is this going to be a trend like fixed-wheel bicycles?
Can10
Can10
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29 Sep 2012 6:55am
The wood made DivII board built by brazilian guy was a Greco. I have pics if you want... Chris, what do you want to do of your lechner?
For those of you looking to make a div II in wood (good luck...) you just need to refer to the class rules, available at ISAF...They have specific dimensions.
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
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29 Sep 2012 12:08pm
Glitch those boards are gorgeous - fine joinery like musical instruments.
You must put quite a bit of time into them.
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