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Wind speed arrows idea

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Created by ptsf1111 > 9 months ago, 22 Nov 2023
ptsf1111
WA, 469 posts
22 Nov 2023 6:33AM
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Thought: what about adding one or more arrow colour in the Seabreeze wind forecast and live report graphs between green (18+) and brown (35+)? Not sure if this was discussed before.

Currently, any wind between 18 and 35 knots is being displayed in the same green colour (or red if you reverse).
On a windsurfer at least, the difference between 18 knots (barely going, biggest kit) and 35 knots (howling, smallest kit and still overpowered?) is massive.

I think it would be great to add one or two colours, for instance like this:

Red: 0-10 knots, Force 3 or less
Amber: 11-16 knots, Force 4
Yellow: 17-21 knots, Force 5
Green: 22-27 knots, Force 6
Blue: 28-33 knots, Force 7
Brown: 33+ knots, Force 8

Maybe that is too much of a change for existing users although I think it would be better. A less impactful change could be adding at least one additional colour between the current green and brown would already be very helpful, for instance blue from for 24+ knots so that we have 6 knot increments following the Beaufort wind scale up to Force 6.

www.seabreeze.com.au/graphs/help_wind.asp

What do you all think? Or is it too complicated and we should all just go sailing when it's green...?

powersloshin
NSW, 1839 posts
22 Nov 2023 6:34PM
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that would make the forecasts even more wrong than they are now

ptsf1111
WA, 469 posts
22 Nov 2023 4:01PM
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Lol, pretty accurate in WA most of the time though and it would be particularly helpful in the live reports which I use quite a lot as we're lucky enough that there's a few accurate wind measure stations in the area.

MarkSSC
QLD, 642 posts
23 Nov 2023 6:57AM
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ptsf1111 said..
Thought: what about adding one or more arrow colour in the Seabreeze wind forecast and live report graphs between green (18+) and brown (35+)? Not sure if this was discussed before.

Currently, any wind between 18 and 35 knots is being displayed in the same green colour (or red if you reverse).
On a windsurfer at least, the difference between 18 knots (barely going, biggest kit) and 35 knots (howling, smallest kit and still overpowered?) is massive.

I think it would be great to add one or two colours, for instance like this:

Red: 0-10 knots, Force 3 or less
Amber: 11-16 knots, Force 4
Yellow: 17-21 knots, Force 5
Green: 22-27 knots, Force 6
Blue: 28-33 knots, Force 7
Brown: 33+ knots, Force 8

Maybe that is too much of a change for existing users although I think it would be better. A less impactful change could be adding at least one additional colour between the current green and brown would already be very helpful, for instance blue from for 24+ knots so that we have 6 knot increments following the Beaufort wind scale up to Force 6.

www.seabreeze.com.au/graphs/help_wind.asp

What do you all think? Or is it too complicated and we should all just go sailing when it's green...?


It won't work in Qld because we still do things in black and white

Mr Milk
NSW, 3115 posts
23 Nov 2023 9:50AM
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Is this some kind of rainbow nation subliminal suggestion? Somebody should flag it so that it comes to Laurie's attention

jn1
SA, 2662 posts
25 Nov 2023 7:21PM
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ptsf1111 said..
What do you all think? Or is it too complicated and we should all just go sailing when it's green...?


I like what you're suggesting, but Beaufort scale is not a common language in AU. I've never heard anybody use it in conversation. My suggestion would be to align your idea with BOM and go up in scales of 5 kts. 0-5, 5-10, 5-15 etc. The only place I see BOM using Beaufort is in their marine forecasts.

ptsf1111
WA, 469 posts
25 Nov 2023 9:17PM
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I agree knots makes more sense. The only reason I suggested Beaufort is that the current colours funnily enough seem to follow it as per that link above.

For me personally, this would be ideal:
Under 18 kts, don't care - red
18-21 kts, light but nice on bigger gear - yellow
22-25 kts, starting to get fun - green
26-29, now we're talking, taking the day off - blue
30-33, could be epic or expensive, purple
34+, maybe not, brown

jn1
SA, 2662 posts
26 Nov 2023 10:36PM
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That is my preference as well now days. I can't be bothered taking the afternoon off work if it's not +18. But the foilers are happy with a lot less wind, and as for the fishos...

mathew
QLD, 2136 posts
28 Nov 2023 8:29AM
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How hard is it to just read a number ?

ptsf1111
WA, 469 posts
28 Nov 2023 6:33AM
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mathew said..
How hard is it to just read a number ?


Hehe, it's not hard, just not great on a touch screen hovering and holding the arrow to read the value. I like colours so we can "read" the values instantly without any additional work

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8259 posts
28 Nov 2023 11:12AM
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ptsf1111 said..
I agree knots makes more sense. The only reason I suggested Beaufort is that the current colours funnily enough seem to follow it as per that link above.

For me personally, this would be ideal:
Under 18 kts, don't care - red
18-21 kts, light but nice on bigger gear - yellow
22-25 kts, starting to get fun - green
26-29, now we're talking, taking the day off - blue
30-33, could be epic or expensive, purple
34+, maybe not, brown



Cripes mine would be
12-15kts yellow lovely on the big gear
15-20kts nice - medium gear
20-25kts - small gear getting to be a handful in chop
25-30kts - survival on wave gear
30kts plus - flatwater only and still survival



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