Where are the Div 2 boards?

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WW100
WW100
QLD
11 posts
QLD, 11 posts
19 Jun 2011 10:35am
I'm looking for one (ad in Wanted), but I thought it might also be an interesting topic.

In Europe they apparently had a Div 2 regatta last month. www.iwindsurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21988

Have you got one? Do you sail it?
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
19 Jun 2011 3:17pm
I don't have one but if circumstances fell into place I'd race lechners again for sure. Those boards are high-performance machines and an awesome test of smarts and technique, far more credible than the retarded, worst-of-both-worlds olympic train wreck that is currently making windsurfing look stupider than necessary. Sure, they'll only appeal to a minority of sailors but for that minority either lechners or open divII is the perfect class. And for reasonably skilled riders they make excellent sub-planing recreational boards.

There must be a few dozen divII boards sitting in garage roofs across Australia. Come on hoarders, fess up.
ploppy
ploppy
QLD
167 posts
QLD, 167 posts
19 Jun 2011 3:45pm
Looks like they may they end up here.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Big-Find/
AUS65
AUS65
WA
25 posts
WA, 25 posts
19 Jun 2011 7:56pm
I still use my Davison div ii with an 8.5. Usually after a spell of hot weather and light wind. Great fun to cruise on - on rail and hooked in with 8 knots of wind. Bloody wet though compared to slalom wave board. Also still use Mistral One design also for cruising up coast and back.
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
19 Jun 2011 10:10pm
someone find me a Crit D2.
WW100
WW100
QLD
11 posts
QLD, 11 posts
19 Jun 2011 11:41pm
Would someone be willing to build a new Div 2 board? Couldn't an established dinghy/skiff builder knock one up pretty easily in foam/carbon? It would be a lot simpler than even a Moth.

I found this tantalising lead, but nothing more, on the website of Bloodaxe, who make high-performance dinghies in the UK. Look under One-Offs, bottom right. http://homepages.wightcable.net/~apaterson/frames.htm

I'm definitely not a home builder, but if my budget for a new Starboard or Exocet raceboard is going to be $3K or more, I'd be willing to spend the same on a new Div 2 for sure.

Any ideas? Any takers?
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
20 Jun 2011 12:20am
Timber is also an option. Back in the 80s several guys were making timber displacement boards to race in the "construction" class as it was known.

I was thinking (yonks ago now) of doing one with a central stringer of timer that was sandwiched to become a double stringer either side of the centreboard case. Then make a bulkhead every foot or so and wrap thin ply around that. The deck would be thicker ply with a bit of wrap at the rails, varnish the inside as you go, then a layer of glass and reo over the outside. Was the simplest DIY method I came up with, and very repairable.
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
20 Jun 2011 7:45am
greenleader said...

someone find me a Crit D2.

Funny, Crit in general was such piece of crap, but their D II was quite nice to handle.
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3568 posts
NSW, 3568 posts
20 Jun 2011 6:19pm
djdojo said...Come on hoarders, fess up.


I ain't no hoarder, I NEED more than one Div 2 board!

They don't have as much of an edge over Raceboards now that Raceboards are carrying 9.5s, but then again you can get good light wind speed from a Div 2 board with a smaller sail.

Three of us (Pat, Glen and I) in NSW have sometimes raced our Lechners - Glen and I were on ours at the Illawarra 8 hour and had no issues leading early on,although my sail was stuffed because both cambers fell off the 8.5 and my boom was too short - that's what happens when you drag a board and rig out once every couple of years.

Great boards, and someone like Dolly Divola could knock up some for about the price of a new Raceboard one would think.
Dartboy
Dartboy
VIC
172 posts
VIC, 172 posts
21 Jun 2011 12:17am








You mean somthing like this !

Found it on eBay and realized I would neve be able to sail it.

Now lives in Sydney with it's original owner .
Fredstyles
Fredstyles
86 posts
86 posts
21 Jun 2011 5:28am
Nice french DivII website

pavdivision2.blogspot.com/p/les-publicites.html
WW100
WW100
QLD
11 posts
QLD, 11 posts
21 Jun 2011 9:44am
Dartboy. That's a nice board. Does anyone know what it is? Better yet, does anyone have the moulds in their back yard!
Dartboy
Dartboy
VIC
172 posts
VIC, 172 posts
21 Jun 2011 8:06pm
Yep it's a Jim French Dart .

Not mouldedfrom a female mould . Dyvinicell formed over a male mould.pretty much built like a dinghy or skiff. Lachlan Gilbert has it now . He is in Sydney somewhere.
Little Jon
Little Jon
NSW
2115 posts
NSW, 2115 posts
22 Jun 2011 12:13am
What about a serenity class
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
22 Jun 2011 12:26am
Little Jon said...

What about a serenity class

We don't hear much about those since the original product launch.
Many of them in your area really ?
The Windsurfing Shed
The Windsurfing Shed
NSW
294 posts
NSW, 294 posts
22 Jun 2011 5:46pm
Exocet is coming up with a new D2 board with the following spec:

The goal is to have a fun and efficient board for light wind conditions but still able to get planing and perform well.




Upwind the board gets on its rail naturally in almost no wind (the main goal) without being as extreme as older D2 boards that were "barrel" like and quite narrow. A modern board that offers fun sensations being comfortable in all directions.




The rocker is typical, an inverted 'thruster' going round and finishing on a V at the back. A flatter middle section similar to a more 'conventional' planing board for planing ability.




Getting on the plane is real quick and it is easier to get in the straps than a typical raceboard as it is wider at the back and a more natural position off the wind.

In decent wind, 25 knots should be accessible for most sailors...

This board will be registered in the raceboard class as well.



Enjoy,
Remi
conan
conan
NSW
181 posts
NSW, 181 posts
22 Jun 2011 6:07pm
i have one in the roof of the garage & ric has one under the house might use it one day
wet dreams
wet dreams
NSW
29 posts
NSW, 29 posts
22 Jun 2011 8:18pm
Did Wayler make a Div 2 board ? If so, i know of one hanging in a carport close to my place.... I could safely say it hasn't been used in the last 10 or more years that i have noticed.
AUS4
AUS4
NSW
1296 posts
NSW, 1296 posts
23 Jun 2011 5:18am
The Windsurfing Shed said...

Exocet is coming up with a new D2 board with the following spec:

The goal is to have a fun and efficient board for light wind conditions but still able to get planing and perform well.




Upwind the board gets on its rail naturally in almost no wind (the main goal) without being as extreme as older D2 boards that were "barrel" like and quite narrow. A modern board that offers fun sensations being comfortable in all directions.




The rocker is typical, an inverted 'thruster' going round and finishing on a V at the back. A flatter middle section similar to a more 'conventional' planing board for planing ability.




Getting on the plane is real quick and it is easier to get in the straps than a typical raceboard as it is wider at the back and a more natural position off the wind.

In decent wind, 25 knots should be accessible for most sailors...

This board will be registered in the raceboard class as well.



Enjoy,
Remi


VERY COOL REMI
WW100
WW100
QLD
11 posts
QLD, 11 posts
23 Jun 2011 1:53pm
Are any of the other manufacturers thinking the same way as Exocet?
AUS4
AUS4
NSW
1296 posts
NSW, 1296 posts
23 Jun 2011 4:02pm
NO
wet dreams said...

Did Wayler make a Div 2 board ? If so, i know of one hanging in a carport close to my place.... I could safely say it hasn't been used in the last 10 or more years that i have noticed.


felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
WA, 3519 posts
14 Jul 2011 2:14pm
Saw 2 of them at the recycling tip few (6?) month ago was at Tamala park Clarkson!
Can10
Can10
173 posts
173 posts
15 Jul 2011 9:59am
Hi Guys,

I'm glad to find some fans of Div II boards in this forum. We need troops at the time we are trying to revive this serie...because, YES, this is what we are trying to do!

Where are the Div II boards? There are almost back

First, click here on Facebook:

www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=123929387624580

Second, join the group (just ask to join) and start browsing the forum, check the pics and video.

Those of you who still have their Lechner, Davidson, Crit D2, etc...upload your pics and share your experience. Everyone speaks english. We have members from the US, the UK, Irland, Germany..Greece, Canada...more than 240 members now.

About the event recently organized in Strasbourg, France, check the pics of the race, also on my friend's blog:
pavdivision2.blogspot.com/2011/05/rassemblement-open-plobsheim-deux.html

If you need help, ask me...
Answering some of your questions on this page,
- Yes, we can still find some Div II, even Crit D2 (the gold standard of Div II)
- Yes Wayler made a Div II. So if you've found one in your neighbor's garage, please, rescue it quickly. No need to build a new one (No so easy by the way)

Look forward to further chat with you guys.

Cheers

Eric
fjdoug
fjdoug
ACT
548 posts
ACT, 548 posts
16 Jul 2011 3:35am
wet dreams, i don't remember a Wayler Div2, i do recall the Wayler, Shark, Chipper, YPSI, Fencer, Breeze. Around here, the fastest guy in Div1 sailed an original Wayler with a custom centreboard and 6.8 sail. have a look at the one down the road, if it is polyethelene and weighs a ton, then its probably the same board.
Can10
Can10
173 posts
173 posts
16 Jul 2011 1:03pm
Djdjo,

I even never seen a Wayler, but I have been told that this one is a Wayler Div II...It looks like.

www.windpowerwindsurfing.com/gallery/picture.php/161-26-walleye/category/7-2010_walleye_wagatta
fjdoug
fjdoug
ACT
548 posts
ACT, 548 posts
16 Jul 2011 5:20pm
that boards appears in a few photos, don't know what it is, looks like a displacement board of some sort...
Can10
Can10
173 posts
173 posts
17 Jul 2011 1:19pm
You can see him here again...
It's a Div II...Not a Tornado. What it is?

www.windpowerwindsurfing.com/gallery/picture.php/383-35-wp_champs/category/20-2009_championships
BarryFawkes
BarryFawkes
NSW
149 posts
NSW, 149 posts
17 Jul 2011 3:35pm
One of the two d2 sailors that was a regular at the club in the 80s dropped around yesterday he still has his eliminator in his shed at home
WW100
WW100
QLD
11 posts
QLD, 11 posts
18 Jul 2011 8:26pm
Why didn't they make it a decent length? Its only 320 long, I think.
bushfire
bushfire
NSW
354 posts
NSW, 354 posts
22 Jul 2011 2:43pm
I have two Lechners in the shed - a '92 model and an '88 model - both in good nick. The mast track and centre board slot are a little further aft on the 92 model. Both are great fun to sail and a real challenge in 15 knots +. I sail one in the lighter winds at club racing most Saturdays in the summer and they are very hard to beat upwind. The board carries big sails surprising well - I've used a formula 10.7 quite succesfully, but normally use my raceboard 9.5 sail.

Just like a raceboard delivers a different windsurfing enjoyment to a formula board, the Lechner delivers something different again. I love the challenge and the "pureness" of the experience - it certainly exposes your sailing weaknesses!!

Remi - great to see the vision of the new Exocet board. It is good that some manufacturers are returning to (and perhaps improving) some successful concepts from the past.
Jethrow
Jethrow
NSW
1281 posts
NSW, 1281 posts
22 Jul 2011 8:35pm
Two Lechner's in the Shed! You Div II hog you.

They are fantastic boards to sail. I have a friend with one hanging in the garage and will try and talk him into wetting it if a Div II nats happens but I not saying who it is incase I get snaked for the board

My last experience was on my trusty re-decked Mistral M1 back in the late 80's. Good times for sure
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