Shoalwater Bay (West Aus) Bans Windsurfing

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jaymac
jaymac
WA
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WA, 44 posts
11 Sep 2008 9:55am
The Conservation and Land Management Department (calm) of the W.A. Government has effectively banned windsurfing, kite, and catamaran sailing in perhaps the most popular, and best sailing bay in the west.
It has established a Marine Park in the area, and from July 1st 2008 prohibited all power craft from speeds above 8 knots to protect seals and bird life. Non-motorised vessels and craft are encouraged to comply with this limit.
This will shut down all fun sailing in the bay, as I am sure that if the limits are consistantly flouted then it is easy to extend the ban to law. I guess (for me living in the middle the bay) I will have to transit the area as slowly as possible until I am offshore and then work windward to Safety Bay. The crazy 30kt downwind rides back home in breaking water off the reefs will be dangerous but fun, last year I would sometimes chicken out, and run home thru the bay!
The sad thing about all this is that PETER DANS is a CALM Officer and part of the planning team. He won the world speed trials held in Shoalwater bay in 1984 with a then incredible speed of 29 Kts on his Gaastra powered windsurfer.
If anyone knows where Peter is they could encourage him to tell us more about the implementation of this ban in this forum.

stamp
stamp
QLD
2797 posts
QLD, 2797 posts
11 Sep 2008 12:19pm
jaymac said...


It has established a Marine Park in the area, and from July 1st 2008 prohibited all power craft from speeds above 8 knots to protect seals and bird life. Non-motorised vessels and craft are encouraged to comply with this limit.




"encouraged to comply." that sounds as though sail powered vessels are exempt from this law, but are being asked nicely to stay away.

laurie
laurie
WA
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WA, 3889 posts
11 Sep 2008 10:24am
Interesting .. did some google action & found the following page

http://www.dec.wa.gov.au/hotproperty/property/marine-parks-and-reserves/shoalwater-islands-marine-park.html

There you'll find the full management zone information.

Regards the speed limits it says: "An eight knot speed limit applies to motorised vessels within the Shoalwater Islands Special Purpose Zone (Wildlife Conservation) and the Seal Island Sanctuary Zone from 1 July 2008. Non-motorised vessels and craft are encouraged to comply with this speed limit."

I take that to read the purple bit?


jaymac
jaymac
WA
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WA, 44 posts
11 Sep 2008 10:25am


jaymac
jaymac
WA
44 posts
WA, 44 posts
11 Sep 2008 10:29am
Yes the purple, or blue Bit in the large map.
I guess the Editor should copy this to the Kites thread, there are always more Kites than windsurfers in the bay
jaymac
jaymac
WA
44 posts
WA, 44 posts
11 Sep 2008 10:34am
Correction, the purple area and the green within it is the 8kt zone.
Ian K
Ian K
WA
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11 Sep 2008 11:10am
But if it is a stronghold for seals and penguins, that's fair enough. Plenty of other places to sail in WA, I'll still plan on the occasional trip.
Gonewindsurfing247
Gonewindsurfing247
WA
966 posts
WA, 966 posts
11 Sep 2008 11:31am
Thanks for the heads up, I had seen the new markers but had no idea what implications they might have.

Hey jaymac, is there any literature or photos re the world speed trials in 84? That is amazing, I would have never pictured that.
Gonewindsurfing247
Gonewindsurfing247
WA
966 posts
WA, 966 posts
11 Sep 2008 11:53am
Non-motorised vessels and crafts, including kite surfers and windsurfers, will be encouraged
to comply with the speed restrictions. However, additional spatial controls to kite
surfers/windsurfers may be required during the life of the management plan to protect wildlife
values. In addition, the south-western boundary of the Warnbro Sound water ski area may be
Department of Environment and Conservation
Shoalwater Islands Marine Park Management Plan 2007-2017 68
reduced to minimise the any potential impacts on little penguins as they travel to and from
their foraging areas in Port Kennedy and Comet Bay.
jaymac
jaymac
WA
44 posts
WA, 44 posts
11 Sep 2008 12:43pm
It might have been even earlier, 1982 perhaps when the Safety Bay Yacht club set up a 500 m course between Penguin Island and the point, the sand bar was well established that year giving smooth water. Americas Cup Sailor Andy White's, son came second. The outright world Speed sailing record was 31 knots at that time I think, so Peter Dans came very close to in setting the Australian record.
Cannot find any more details at the moment, it was written up in the Magazines so I might be able to find something.
laurie
laurie
WA
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11 Sep 2008 1:43pm
I have an old mag somewhere with the "International speed trials" and which was a Woodman Point - might have been a different year.

Woodman point was heralded by the magainze as a possibly the best flat water location in the world (at the time) for breaking windsurfing speed records!
sick_em_rex
sick_em_rex
NSW
1601 posts
NSW, 1601 posts
11 Sep 2008 3:45pm
Woodman Point was in the second installment of Blown Away called Powerglide. It featured that speed trials Laurie where Fred Heywood broke a class record. Something like the 8-10 square metre sail size....?
A certain P. Dans was in it too
AUS1111
AUS1111
WA
3621 posts
WA, 3621 posts
11 Sep 2008 2:53pm
The one at Woodies was sponsored by Swan Premium and was in 1987 - the Americas Cup summer - that much I can remember.

I'm pretty sure it was Brad Hiles who took the Australian record, and the event was one by Jean Pierre Siret with a speed in the high 20's. The legendary Fred Haywood was there, and saw a shark!

Any speed trials in Shoalwater Bay were well before my time so can't comment on that.

Swan River Mob team captain 25 will elaborate.
tom444
tom444
TAS
117 posts
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11 Sep 2008 7:54pm
why does this happen always in australia we get thease dumb laws they must get there ideas from the U.K. i bet in the uk you have to pay someone to use a beach and i bet they have bans everywhere.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
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11 Sep 2008 8:52pm
tom444 said...

why does this happen always in australia we get thease dumb laws they must get there ideas from the U.K. i bet in the uk you have to pay someone to use a beach and i bet they have bans everywhere.


Actually the common man has more rights in the UK than what they do in Australia. The UK's laws are based on common law and if you great great great great great great great great great great great great grand daddy used to enjoy spending his time by the beach then its very difficult for tin pot Hitlers to stop you from enjoying your time in the sun.


In regards to any regulation of beaches and windsurfing in Australia, you would think any issues would have arisen twenty years ago when windsurfing was very popular. Hell there were more people windsurfing at Nambucca Heads in 1986 than there are at the Pittwater in 2008.




tom444
tom444
TAS
117 posts
TAS, 117 posts
11 Sep 2008 10:09pm
australia sucks
The Grinch
The Grinch
WA
733 posts
WA, 733 posts
11 Sep 2008 9:57pm

I've heard they are only going to ban twin fins since they do twice as much damage as a single fin on marine life.
If you want to get rid of your twin fin i'll take it off your hands.
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
11 Sep 2008 10:04pm
tom444 said...

australia sucks


Thankfully, overwise we would fall orffff
tom444
tom444
TAS
117 posts
TAS, 117 posts
12 Sep 2008 12:24am
i think all the windsurfers around australia should unite and take back our land from thease crooks and take it back from the kitesurfers as well. lets all march down the street somewhere, thousands of windsurfers in protest to the all the bans.we should all windsurf as well at one of the beaches that has been banned around aust imagine 10,000 windsurfers taken over the beach, how cool would that be.
25
25
WA
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25 25
WA, 319 posts
12 Sep 2008 12:34pm
Bloody hell Jay - you are still alive!
The trials you ran was January 1983 I think! I'll have a look at the engraving on the Suunto handheld compass that I won and still use - 25+ years ago!!!

A few facts re your alarmist thread!

-CALM ceased to exist as of 1 July 2006. It is now the Department of Environment and Conservation [DEC].

-The Shoalwater Islands Marine Park was created by the WA government in 1990 and the managment plan was released in October 2007.

-The plan included a recommendation to limit motorised vessel speed to 8 knots in Shoalwater Bay due to the significant wildlife values and the risks presented to these from vessel strikes - there have been verified incidents with both penguins and sea lions.

-It is important to note that responsibility for managing vessels and vessel speed rests with the Department for Planning and Infrastructure [DPI] not DEC.

-Any vessel speed restriction will be implemented under DPI administered legislation. As I understand it the Navigable Waters Regulations currently apply only to powered vessels but DPI is reviewing this in an effort to better manage wind driven vessels, particularly kites.

-No new restrictions [in Shoalwater Bay] have been put in place by DPI to date. DEC is currently negotiating with them as to the closure of the Shoalwater Bay water ski area as a first step.

Cheers
25
Gonewindsurfing247
Gonewindsurfing247
WA
966 posts
WA, 966 posts
12 Sep 2008 1:46pm
fffffeeewww, I was intending on breaking the law all afternoon in this honking westerly. Now I can be guilt free. Thanks for the clarification 25.
jaymac
jaymac
WA
44 posts
WA, 44 posts
12 Sep 2008 6:01pm
Yes still alive and still sailing....badly!

Thanks for the clarification Pedro, feel even happier about sailing thru Shoalwater for a few hours today, but I guess there is some writng on the wall.
June.
June.
WA
51 posts
WA, 51 posts
13 Sep 2008 12:09pm
scanned relevant part of DEC brochure:

25
25
WA
319 posts
25 25
WA, 319 posts
13 Sep 2008 7:04pm
The July 2008 aspiration [for the implementation of a 8 knot powered vessel speed limit in Shoalwater Bay] has clearly not been realised!
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
TAS, 2317 posts
14 Sep 2008 5:47am
tom444 said...

australia sucks


Love it or leave it...
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
14 Sep 2008 6:54am
tom444 said...

australia sucks

I agree Willy Wet: just leave the place then.
choco
choco
SA
4181 posts
SA, 4181 posts
14 Sep 2008 7:48am
tom444 said...

i think all the windsurfers around australia should unite and take back our land from thease crooks and take it back from the kitesurfers as well. lets all march down the street somewhere, thousands of windsurfers in protest to the all the bans.we should all windsurf as well at one of the beaches that has been banned around aust imagine 10,000 windsurfers taken over the beach, how cool would that be.


would there be 10,000 windsurfers in Australia?

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