Revolutionary Boom Head Design

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Reflex Films
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20 Sep 2012 5:02pm
www.severnesails.com//booms/severne-lockjaw

Here is the video i put together for the new Severne Lockjaw boom head




a seriously sweet boom head (i have been using one for the last 9 months) full of some real technological advancement

The boom uses grip and contact instead of ridiculous amounts of point loading tension to do its job.

Its is is dedicated rdm or sdm - so no silly mast adaptors required

The handle is super smooth and the ergonomics of attaching the boom are unrivalled.

Its standard on Enigma, Metal and blueline booms

lots more cool stuff on the VERY fancy new website

www.severnesails.com/
albers
albers
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20 Sep 2012 7:47pm
Is the boom head designed for a monocoque-type boom?
stehsegler
stehsegler
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20 Sep 2012 6:53pm
Reflex Films said...
a seriously sweet boom head (i have been using one for the last 9 months) full of some real technological advancement


of course you wouldn't be one bit bias
Reflex Films
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20 Sep 2012 7:24pm
time will tell - these things are gonna sell like hotcakes when the booms hit shelves

Aluminium booms will be in OZ end of This month

Enigma Wave Carbon end of October

Slalom and Formula / Race Kick are a bit delayed unfortunately

I am very excited to see a genuine step up in boom performance hitting the market.

There are going to be lots of VERY happy windsurfers out there.
kato
kato
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20 Sep 2012 9:42pm
I think i,ve missed something. I didn,t see anything new????
Been using booms for at lease 4 yrs that don,t need an adapter to go from STD to RMD and no point loading. They do look nice though
swoosh
swoosh
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20 Sep 2012 9:53pm
Reflex Films said...
There are going to be lots of VERY happy windsurfers out there.


Hopefully the enigma availability will be better, I know people who have been waiting over a year for one.

They look really nice, almost tempted to get one... MUST RESIST.

Also, there seem to be some broken links and bugs etc on the site, so I just wanna confirm, is the redline 400 RDM really 1.25kg? Cause that is STUPIDLY light, in a good way haha
Troppo
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20 Sep 2012 8:00pm


I dont know what is so revolutionary about the boom head

this one also uses grip and contact, has a pivoting attatchment to stop point loading and comes with an adapter so you dont need to swap boom heads in the the cross over size sails that use sdm or rdm masts.
Reflex Films
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20 Sep 2012 8:09pm
On the point loading front
- if you have a larger surface area on the boom to mast interface
that moulds to how the mast is shaped - with a longer vertical contact area, increased area overall - and a taper in the mast to boom contact area

then you get a much more mast friendly product - that grips to the mast (due to the increased contact area) - so you dont have to run high tensions on the clamp -

moderate tension and the boom will stay there all day long

dan berry
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20 Sep 2012 8:13pm
Looks good Matt. Makes too many weird noises for me though.
Mark _australia
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20 Sep 2012 8:57pm
dan berry said...

Looks good Matt. Makes too many weird noises for me though.


Interestingly so does my Simmer which looks exactly like it noise is probably where the rear bit around the mast overlaps the front bit as it is tensioned and it groans a bit as they rub together? Sounds like it is broken but it isn't...

Anyway, agree with many above, the only "innovations" are
-8mm bolt. But, I say overkill as M6 is so bloody strong and the limiting factor is plastics not the bolt. Dunno if it needs M8.

More surface area up n down the mast as Matt says.

All the other features are in other booms, and the head looks sooo much like my Simmer or Troppo's KA (which are just Autima) that it is not funny.
Simon100
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20 Sep 2012 11:03pm
Looks like the current clamp system they use which is rubbish it just clamps the back and front . My inigma boom moves more in the clamp than my cheap prolimit .
Troppo
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20 Sep 2012 9:10pm
Its actually a Chinook head developed in conjuction with Aeron as far as I'm aware. You will see them on a lot of brands booms. Probably because they work really well.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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20 Sep 2012 9:16pm
Troppo said...

Its actually a Chinook head developed in conjuction with Aeron as far as I'm aware. You will see them on a lot of brands booms. Probably because they work really well.


Autima, Aeron you know what I meant

Does yours squeak and groan a bit though?
dan berry
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20 Sep 2012 9:18pm
Mark _australia said...

dan berry said...

Looks good Matt. Makes too many weird noises for me though.


Interestingly so does my Simmer which looks exactly like it noise is probably where the rear bit around the mast overlaps the front bit as it is tensioned and it groans a bit as they rub together? Sounds like it is broken but it isn't...

Anyway, agree with many above, the only "innovations" are
-8mm bolt. But, I say overkill as M6 is so bloody strong and the limiting factor is plastics not the bolt. Dunno if it needs M8.

More surface area up n down the mast as Matt says.

All the other features are in other booms, and the head looks sooo much like my Simmer or Troppo's KA (which are just Autima) that it is not funny.


Sorry was referring to the noises in the video. Grip looks cool.

Reflex Films
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20 Sep 2012 9:39pm


- the ergonomics and geometry of the rope to sleeve action are just so nice - its just super easy to pop on to the mast and attach - takes about 3 seconds to pop on

I struggle when i go back to the old generic heads now - and the loads that the current standard generic designs run just seem super excessive by comparison - especially on SDM masts - which i have actually seen broken by riders running firm tensions and transferring point loads onto the mast wall

i welcome the skepticism
- yes -i agree its definitely more evolutionary refinement than revolution - if you are curious at all check one out in a shop over summer and you will get some insight into how well finished, engineered, ergonomic and mast friendly these are.

The head also easily swivels 90 degrees into low profile travel mode - which is pretty spiffy!


barn
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20 Sep 2012 9:53pm
Seabreeze User said...



It looks just like my boom head... You guyz crazy.









Mark _australia said...


Anyway, agree with many above, the only "innovations" are
-8mm bolt. But, I say overkill as M6 is so bloody strong and the limiting factor is plastics not the bolt. Dunno if it needs M8.

More surface area up n down the mast as Matt says.

All the other features are in other booms, and the head looks sooo much like my Simmer or Troppo's KA (which are just Autima) that it is not funny.


Needs 8mm, that's the first thing I'm always bending.

All the other features are on other booms to some extent, but this head has the best features from them all in one unit. For example, I've always liked the Neilpryde mast/boom T intersection thing, it has always created a solid connection. But that's just one good feature in an otherwise snaptastic boom head.
Troppo
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20 Sep 2012 9:55pm
Reflex Films said...



The head also easily swivels 90 degrees into low profile travel mode - which is pretty spiffy!



So does the Chinook head.
Mark _australia
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20 Sep 2012 10:03pm
Barn - you have bent a M6 bolt thru a boom head before? When it runs through a block of FRP so it is supported along most of its length (same as Chinook/Autima/Severne system above) ????

Without fk'ing the rest of said boom?


stonesurf
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20 Sep 2012 10:41pm
l like the built in flashlight at 1.25min.
FlickySpinny
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20 Sep 2012 10:44pm
Mark _australia said...

Barn - you have bent a M6 bolt thru a boom head before? When it runs through a block of FRP so it is supported along most of its length (same as Chinook/Autima/Severne system above) ????

Without fk'ing the rest of said boom?





I could also have misunderstood, but I wouldn't put it past him.

I'm not exactly kind on my kit, but Barn is in a different league. I've seen him sail whilst trying to learn to Air Funnel. He smashed himself and his kit a couple of hundred times that day and still kept coming back for more. Have also seen video of a stalled forward from zero altitude... and the massive failure that preceded that (post the vid Barn - I can't find it). If anyone can bend that bolt, Barn can. Nutter.
jsnfok
jsnfok
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20 Sep 2012 10:54pm
Revolutionary is the north boom with the iFront boom end which allows movement and even that has been out for while...

So real revolution is get rid of the dam rope
Mark _australia
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20 Sep 2012 11:26pm
FlickySpinny said...

Mark _australia said...

Barn - you have bent a M6 bolt thru a boom head before? When it runs through a block of FRP so it is supported along most of its length (same as Chinook/Autima/Severne system above) ????

Without fk'ing the rest of said boom?





I could also have misunderstood, but I wouldn't put it past him.

I'm not exactly kind on my kit, but Barn is in a different league. I've seen him sail whilst trying to learn to Air Funnel. He smashed himself and his kit a couple of hundred times that day and still kept coming back for more. Have also seen video of a stalled forward from zero altitude... and the massive failure that preceded that (post the vid Barn - I can't find it). If anyone can bend that bolt, Barn can. Nutter.


I am sure Barn makes Evil Kneivel look lame.
The Crusty Demons like amateurs.
In all seriousness he is waaayyyy better than me.

BUT regardless, there is a point where putting a fatter bolt in a plastic bit is worthless as so many things can fail before the bolt.
We don't use a class12.9 8mm sockethead capscrew thru a watch strap for example. That would be dumb.

I still say a 6mm stainless bolt thru the hingey bit is more than enough, and 8mm is just marketing spin as everything else is Chinook/Autima/Simmer/KA clone with different coloued bits and they wanted to set it apart a bit.
Barn may disagree, after he is done kicking Chuck Norris' arse he can come back and let us all know.


jsnfok
jsnfok
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20 Sep 2012 11:40pm
Mark _australia said...

FlickySpinny said...

Mark _australia said...

Barn - you have bent a M6 bolt thru a boom head before? When it runs through a block of FRP so it is supported along most of its length (same as Chinook/Autima/Severne system above) ????

Without fk'ing the rest of said boom?





I could also have misunderstood, but I wouldn't put it past him.

I'm not exactly kind on my kit, but Barn is in a different league. I've seen him sail whilst trying to learn to Air Funnel. He smashed himself and his kit a couple of hundred times that day and still kept coming back for more. Have also seen video of a stalled forward from zero altitude... and the massive failure that preceded that (post the vid Barn - I can't find it). If anyone can bend that bolt, Barn can. Nutter.


I am sure Barn makes Evil Kneivel look lame.
The Crusty Demons like amateurs.
In all seriousness he is waaayyyy better than me.

BUT regardless, there is a point where putting a fatter bolt in a plastic bit is worthless as so many things can fail before the bolt.
We don't use a class12.9 8mm sockethead capscrew thru a watch strap for example. That would be dumb.

I still say a 6mm stainless bolt thru the hingey bit is more than enough, and 8mm is just marketing spin as everything else is Chinook/Autima/Simmer/KA clone with different coloued bits and they wanted to set it apart a bit.
Barn may disagree, after he is done kicking Chuck Norris' arse he can come back and let us all know.





They have a point, I have replace many a bent bolt in my booms
redsurfbus
redsurfbus
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21 Sep 2012 2:01am
I like the big thick rubber knobbles to protect the board, next time I want to bounce the boom head on my board I will remember to use a Severne boom head. Until I get one though I will just keep rigging it so it clears the board by a good 10cm at either end.

Looks exactly the same as an old prolimit I had with such a chunky head.
Ian1
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21 Sep 2012 4:45am
jsnfok said...

Mark _australia said...

FlickySpinny said...

Mark _australia said...

Barn - you have bent a M6 bolt thru a boom head before? When it runs through a block of FRP so it is supported along most of its length (same as Chinook/Autima/Severne system above) ????

Without fk'ing the rest of said boom?





I could also have misunderstood, but I wouldn't put it past him.

I'm not exactly kind on my kit, but Barn is in a different league. I've seen him sail whilst trying to learn to Air Funnel. He smashed himself and his kit a couple of hundred times that day and still kept coming back for more. Have also seen video of a stalled forward from zero altitude... and the massive failure that preceded that (post the vid Barn - I can't find it). If anyone can bend that bolt, Barn can. Nutter.


I am sure Barn makes Evil Kneivel look lame.
The Crusty Demons like amateurs.
In all seriousness he is waaayyyy better than me.

BUT regardless, there is a point where putting a fatter bolt in a plastic bit is worthless as so many things can fail before the bolt.
We don't use a class12.9 8mm sockethead capscrew thru a watch strap for example. That would be dumb.

I still say a 6mm stainless bolt thru the hingey bit is more than enough, and 8mm is just marketing spin as everything else is Chinook/Autima/Simmer/KA clone with different coloued bits and they wanted to set it apart a bit.
Barn may disagree, after he is done kicking Chuck Norris' arse he can come back and let us all know.





They have a point, I have replace many a bent bolt in my booms


Yup I've bent mine and I'm only 80kg. Its was a pretty horrific catapult though. Also bent my dakine harness bar at the same time.
robbo1111
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21 Sep 2012 8:50am



Dont know how good these Streamlined ones were but they were definitely revolutionary.

What about the old Peter Cabrinha double-head boom - anyone remember them?
Sailhack
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21 Sep 2012 9:22am
Another bolt-bender here...also don't understand all the noise about the boom head in the vid - looks pretty, but basically the same as other boom heads. I was expecting some electronic self-tightening gadget, or adjustable height on-the-fly type setup.
jsnfok
jsnfok
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21 Sep 2012 8:30am
Sailhack said...

I was expecting some electronic self-tightening gadget, or adjustable height on-the-fly type setup.


oh is that all
Carantoc
Carantoc
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21 Sep 2012 8:55am
Does it have an integrated stubby holder in it anywhere ?

Or iphone5 socket ?
Reflex Films
Reflex Films
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21 Sep 2012 9:22am

The integrated bumpers are much prettier / lighter / less time consuming than having some daggy boom diaper thing hanging off the front .

AUS1111
AUS1111
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21 Sep 2012 9:35am
robbo1111 said...




Dont know how good these Streamlined ones were but they were definitely revolutionary.

What about the old Peter Cabrinha double-head boom - anyone remember them?


These are really light, strong and super stiff, but the webbing gradually slips. Every three or four sails you need to re-tighten it and this is pretty fiddly and annoying. I'll give it 7/10.

This new Severne design, however, is a complete revolution! I can't believe nobody has thought of this before - windsurfing will never be the same again!
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