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biziedizie
biziedizie
3 posts
3 posts
5 Jun 2010 10:51am
Hey all I'm new to this sport!
I picked up a Bic Dufour Wing and I need to know how to assemble it. They said that it came with everything but I'm not too sure about that!
I'm thinking I need step by step (pics) of how to do this.
Also how much wind do I need as in I'm new at this and the slower the better!

Thanks!




Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
4019 posts
WA, 4019 posts
5 Jun 2010 11:29am
Is that a tie on boom with a rope at the front instead of a clamp? (a clamp is the more modern solution).

That is an old set up and not very user friendly. Never the less it is the sort of thing many of us learned on.
You will need dedication, good balance and perseverance to learn on that, but it can be done.

If you want to fall in less, get less tired and make progress more quickly I would suggest you get a more modern wider board at least.

and definitely start in light wind. 5-10 knots.
sausage
sausage
QLD
4874 posts
QLD, 4874 posts
5 Jun 2010 1:31pm
Bizie,
How much did they pay you for picking it up and when they said it came with everything, I gather you got a Commodore 64 computer thrown in as well.

best bet is to commandeer a fellow windsurfer at your local spot and ask for some assistance. The gear is ancient and you would be better off with some more recent beginner's gear, but none the less it is still useable (as long as the board floats).

Good luck and welcome to the best sport in the world (equal to the sport of sledging anyone who kites)

PS - Your outhaul rope looks a bit short too.
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
4019 posts
WA, 4019 posts
5 Jun 2010 11:34am
sausage said...

Bizie,
How much did they pay you for picking it up?

best bet is to commandeer a fellow windsurfer at your local spot and ask for some assistance.


Ask someone who is over forty. They are more likely to know how to tie on a boom!
It's actually not that difficult but it is unlikely you'd work out how to do it for yourself.
I can explain it to you if it is a tie on boom you have.

biziedizie
biziedizie
3 posts
3 posts
5 Jun 2010 11:36am

Yes I'm pretty sure it's a tie on boom, looking at pics online the booms look like they're tied on but they stay like that if that makes sense. This one seems like I would have to hold it in place, me thinks I'm doing something wrong.
I have a rough idea as to how this goes together but I think there's a few bits missing.
biziedizie
biziedizie
3 posts
3 posts
5 Jun 2010 11:42am
sausage said...

Bizie,
How much did they pay you for picking it up and when they said it came with everything, I gather you got a Commodore 64 computer thrown in as well.

best bet is to commandeer a fellow windsurfer at your local spot and ask for some assistance. The gear is ancient and you would be better off with some more recent beginner's gear, but none the less it is still useable (as long as the board floats).

Good luck and welcome to the best sport in the world (equal to the sport of sledging anyone who kites)

PS - Your outhaul rope looks a bit short too.


Yup I assumed the gear was old but being free I'm thinking I did good. Learning for the first time I'm thinking that buying would be pointless till I really know what I want and need.

So can I put it in my bathtub to see if it floats? If it holds my rubber ducky then it should be a good board right?
jermaldan
jermaldan
VIC
1572 posts
VIC, 1572 posts
5 Jun 2010 1:47pm
I'll agree with sausage here. Learning on that is going to be like learning to be a programmer on a commadore 64. Gear has gone leps and bounds since then, become more user friendly and easy to assemble. Any one of us on this forum would have given you gear like hat for free. In fact you could probably find more recent eqipment at the local dump.

Don't feel bad. I think that we have all done it.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
5 Jun 2010 5:17pm
I learnt on one of those.It will be ok to learn on less than 10kts over that it will start to be interesting..
Ok this is from my foggy memory of a similar inhaul system I was using until recently.The dufour maybe a bit different but the concept will probably be the same.Others may be able to correct me or explain it better.
Hold the mast up next to you and mark on the mast ( white crayon or texta) where you want the boom height to be..(shoulder to chin height) allow for the mast extension /foot bit if necessary.
Before you put the mast in the board lie the rig on the ground (mast with sail on ) and lie the boom on top so that the inhaul is at the right boom height ( mark on mast) and the end of the boom is pointing at the top of the mast and lying on top of the mast.Now comes the tricky part..I dont think I can describe this very well without photos..You have a length of rope (bit less than 1 foot long ) and you put a knot in the end and feed the rope through a hole in the boom inhaul end so that the rope is attached to the inhaul/boom.Then you wrap the rope around the mast once or twice and back through some other holes to lock it..maybe the tail feeds over the earlier bit and locks it..This is all with the boom lying on top and parallel to the mast.Now you carefully pull the boom down into sailing position which tightens the connection.It might take a bit of trail & error to get it tight enough..if you hear ominous creaking noises maybe be cautious. Now outhaul the sail a bit.I hate the system as if you dont get it right it comes loose & wobbles but for really light winds it should be ok.
KenHo
KenHo
NSW
1353 posts
NSW, 1353 posts
5 Jun 2010 6:34pm
biziedizie said...

sausage said...

Bizie,
How much did they pay you for picking it up and when they said it came with everything, I gather you got a Commodore 64 computer thrown in as well.

best bet is to commandeer a fellow windsurfer at your local spot and ask for some assistance. The gear is ancient and you would be better off with some more recent beginner's gear, but none the less it is still useable (as long as the board floats).

Good luck and welcome to the best sport in the world (equal to the sport of sledging anyone who kites)

PS - Your outhaul rope looks a bit short too.






Yup I assumed the gear was old but being free I'm thinking I did good. Learning for the first time I'm thinking that buying would be pointless till I really know what I want and need.

So can I put it in my bathtub to see if it floats? If it holds my rubber ducky then it should be a good board right?


I have to say that I don't subscribe to the common approach that it is not worth getting decent gear to learn a new activity or sport on.
It's a common thing, usually spoken out loud by the parent buying a musical instrument for a child, who winds up buying something that sounds like a wounded cat and consequently there is learning failure. What you have there is akin to the old wooden snow skis they hang up above bars, or use as window dressing in the trendy ski shops in Canada.
If I turned up on a mountain with that kind of gear, you would probably kindly guide me in teh direction of something a little modern and learner freindly, saying something like, "Give yerself a chance man" !!
Ideally, gear designed to learn on, in good condition, is going to give you the best shot of surviving the rather steep and sometimes unforgiving learning curve.
Old race gear that has been used little, but hung around a shed for a few decades is the worst gear to learn on.
A clamp on boom, and a nice sail with a few battens will be much more fun for you and will cost you little. I traded a half-decent 5.7 for $50 recently, as an example, which is a good size to start on.
Either way, get someone to help you rig it and fer chrissakes get at least one lesson from someone who can sail OK.
Just noticed you are in Canada. You should be able to get lessons there, and failing that, take a road trip to the the Columbia River Gorge. You may be aware that it is a major windsurfing destination.

flipper4444
flipper4444
VIC
1214 posts
VIC, 1214 posts
5 Jun 2010 9:12pm
wow, your from canada bit chilly for windsurfing there, i would freeze my pinkies off
windsufering
windsufering
VIC
1124 posts
VIC, 1124 posts
5 Jun 2010 10:10pm
is this a dating site
flipper4444
flipper4444
VIC
1214 posts
VIC, 1214 posts
5 Jun 2010 10:31pm
windsufering
windsufering
VIC
1124 posts
VIC, 1124 posts
5 Jun 2010 11:11pm
do you kite ****
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
6 Jun 2010 1:02am
flipper4444 said...

wow, your from canada bit chilly for windsurfing there, i would freeze my pinkies off

It's not that bad. I have sailed the Great Lakes area at times.
Summer in Lake Ontario (US side) is about like Sydney in the midst of the winter or a bit better.

So don't they have computers and computer forum out there ??
bananalover
bananalover
WA
49 posts
WA, 49 posts
6 Jun 2010 1:17pm
Windxtasy said...

Is that a tie on boom with a rope at the front instead of a clamp? (a clamp is the more modern solution).

That is an old set up and not very user friendly. Never the less it is the sort of thing many of us learned on.
You will need dedication, good balance and perseverance to learn on that, but it can be done.

If you want to fall in less, get less tired and make progress more quickly I would suggest you get a more modern wider board at least.

and definitely start in light wind. 5-10 knots.
listen to her, she knows what she's talking about. She taught me how to windsurf and I'm only eleven!

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