Lucky I wore my helmet today..

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sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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10 May 2011 4:35pm
Anyone else been glad they've had their lid on when things have gone wrong? I usually only wear my Gath helmet when it's really howling or its cold.It was cold so I wore it today 14 degrees and 20-25kt wind .. It's never happened in years of sailboarding but the mast hit me on the head twice today.. Maybe I'm getting senile..
elmo
elmo
WA
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10 May 2011 4:14pm
This was the second Gath I've destroyed



Impact was in back of head. The Inverted "Y" shaped crack.
Was Very close to knocked out.
Got a wee residual dent in the top of my head in the same spot.
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
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10 May 2011 7:16pm
Holy crap, how did that happen? Bought my 1st helmet a few weeks ago, considered it for a while with trying to go fast through the chop, was sealed when a head strap from a catapulting sail hit my ear when racing- stung a bit but alot better than the mast would have.

They certainly add a bit of warmth- seeing elmo's pics I might wear a bit more often.
barn
barn
WA
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10 May 2011 6:54pm



The only thing heavy enough to do that much damage would be an EZZY..

I'll get my coat..
petermac33
petermac33
WA
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10 May 2011 7:57pm
back around 1995, i remember hearing that Emily Lockwood got wiped while racing in ocean,hitting her head on mast with no helmet on.

she got rescued by a boat then fell unconscious moments later,so don't think it can't happen.

remember sailing at peli-point around 5 years ago and someone hit a loose piece of floating wood,alot worse for wear.

it's a risk/reward thing. if you are confident in your skills and don't push the limit too far you will reduce risk.

getting wiped out by hitting chop hard while sailing fast is when helmet is most needed.

reward for not wearing a helmet,more comfortable and better sense of hearing.

DrJ
DrJ
ACT
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10 May 2011 10:16pm
Threads like this come up every once in awhile, and each time I think 'shoot, I am definitely getting a helmet ' but still I haven't, so thanks for the reminder and once again..... I think I will definetly buy a helmet.
elmo
elmo
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10 May 2011 8:26pm
That was the effects of getting hit by a big gust.
Was using a 4.5m Nth sail (sorry, ezzy's are too gutless and break for me) + a NP mast.
Slammed into the sail with my shoulder flicking the back of my head into the mast.

Have also smashed a helmet surfing as well.

I've never regretted throwing a smashed helmet in the bin and having to spend another +$100

PFD's are a good investment to
busterwa
busterwa
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10 May 2011 8:28pm
i wear a helmet religiously if its above 15 knots. At some windsurfing spots i have seen "old boys" wearing like baseball catcher type helmets with grid across the face aswel!

helmets=good investment

"probally posted before"
barn
barn
WA
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10 May 2011 8:48pm
I'm all for protecting my head, but I just can't justify the price.. Luckily I am well travelled and have witnessed the the home made alternative head protection from Egypt.. Whenever its really windy, just drop by the bakery, grab some rolls and head to the beach..
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
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10 May 2011 10:12pm
I have toyed with the idea of wearing a helmet but I am told that if you have a long neck (which I have) the added weight of helmet plus head causes increased likelihood of whiplash injury which may outweigh the positives of wearing the helmet.
The last 2 times I have received head injuries whilst sailing it was my nose and my chin, which would be unprotected by a helmet anyway.
sideskirt
sideskirt
328 posts
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11 May 2011 2:15am
I put my money on the helmet. I have an injured neck (got hit by a car), from 3 years ago and I don't find the extra weight to be disturbing me.
mkseven
mkseven
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11 May 2011 7:03am
there are plain foam helmets. Ive got an ion helmet which is hardskin but weighs sfa, dont notice weight on head at all. My money on the helmet too & at $100 it not a bad investment.
KenHo
KenHo
NSW
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11 May 2011 8:56am
Gath helmets weigh very little, less than wet hair.
That's the kind of specious argument you get from lonely men with way too much time on their hands.
I've worn one pretty much since I started short-boiarding in 1994, and have had a few random cracks about the head, often in light wind, so I would not use 15kt as a cut-off. Always grateful to have it on.
As a bonus, you get very good sun protection for much of your face and ears etc, though nose and back of neck miss out a bit.



Windxtasy said...

I have toyed with the idea of wearing a helmet but I am told that if you have a long neck (which I have) the added weight of helmet plus head causes increased likelihood of whiplash injury which may outweigh the positives of wearing the helmet.
The last 2 times I have received head injuries whilst sailing it was my nose and my chin, which would be unprotected by a helmet anyway.


Waiting4wind
Waiting4wind
NSW
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11 May 2011 9:07am
All this talk about getting smacked on the head has me reconsidering the helmet. I've had a Gath for years but only wear it when really cold or ballistic weather.

i don't like it cause I don't have the perfect shape head for a Gath so not that comforable and the wind noise is annoying.

So what are the alternatives to Gath?
WaynoB
WaynoB
NSW
393 posts
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11 May 2011 12:08pm
Have a Gath helmet with visor - best investment ever. Use it every time I go in the surf or if it looks a bit strong when on the bay/lakes, otherwise have a cap on to protect from the sun. If that blows off your head you know it's probably time to get the Gath. Wind noise can be a bit of an issue tho...

Before the Gath used a bicycle helmet which did the job but looked "dorky". Ah fashion....before that just a "nude scone" and a few cuts and bruises to go with it. One day my wife and kids were watching me shortboarding in Sydney when I came screaming into the beach, jumped off the board, put the rig on the sand, when the wind got under it and flicked it up and the mast hit me in the side of the head which required a trip to the doctors and a few stitches. Still got the scar. Needless to say my wife suggested I buy a helmet after that.

The Gath has saved my noggin quite a few times and even though you may still cop a knock you are almost guaranteed there will be no blood. Not a good look when in the surf or even some the bay/lakes venues.

The cracked Gath did its job and certainly prevented a more serious injury.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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11 May 2011 1:15pm
sideskirt said...

I put my money on the helmet. I have an injured neck (got hit by a car), from 3 years ago and I don't find the extra weight to be disturbing me.


I have a crook neck but no worries with the helmet..I think the times I have catapulted & got bad whiplash I didnt have a helemt on..? Luckily that hasn't happened for ages now.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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11 May 2011 1:17pm
wbailey said...

Have a Gath helmet with visor - best investment ever. Use it every time I go in the surf or if it looks a bit strong when on the bay/lakes, otherwise have a cap on to protect from the sun. If that blows off your head you know it's probably time to get the Gath. Wind noise can be a bit of an issue tho...

Before the Gath used a bicycle helmet which did the job but looked "dorky". Ah fashion....before that just a "nude scone" and a few cuts and bruises to go with it. One day my wife and kids were watching me shortboarding in Sydney when I came screaming into the beach, jumped off the board, put the rig on the sand, when the wind got under it and flicked it up and the mast hit me in the side of the head which required a trip to the doctors and a few stitches. Still got the scar. Needless to say my wife suggested I buy a helmet after that.

The Gath has saved my noggin quite a few times and even though you may still cop a knock you are almost guaranteed there will be no blood. Not a good look when in the surf or even some the bay/lakes venues.

The cracked Gath did its job and certainly prevented a more serious injury.


If its 30kts + I wear earplugs with the Gath..usually on my own anyway..
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
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11 May 2011 11:39am
Windxtasy said...

I have toyed with the idea of wearing a helmet but I am told that if you have a long neck (which I have) the added weight of helmet plus head causes increased likelihood of whiplash injury which may outweigh the positives of wearing the helmet.
The last 2 times I have received head injuries whilst sailing it was my nose and my chin, which would be unprotected by a helmet anyway.


As an old biker from way back - before helmets were law, or even commonly available, all those same arguments were put when they wanted to make helmet wearing compulsory. Most would also be aware of the same arguments with respect to seat belts in cars. There undoubtedly would be a few examples where the safety equipment actually caused the injury, but I'm sure they're precious few and very far between. My money's on the helmet
KenHo
KenHo
NSW
1353 posts
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11 May 2011 1:53pm
When I first got the Gath, the wind noise bugged me, so I put some tape over the holes, and that fixed it. Eventually the tape peeled off, and I didn't bother to replace it. Haven't really noticed it since. With all this talk, it will probably drive me barmy next time I sail.
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
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11 May 2011 2:29pm
Waiting4wind said...

All this talk about getting smacked on the head has me reconsidering the helmet. I've had a Gath for years but only wear it when really cold or ballistic weather.

i don't like it cause I don't have the perfect shape head for a Gath so not that comforable and the wind noise is annoying.

So what are the alternatives to Gath?


http://www.ion-essentials.com/content/products/travelgear/accessories/hardcap/
ikw777
ikw777
QLD
2995 posts
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11 May 2011 2:30pm
Get the Gath surf convertible helmet. detachable ear pieces - NO NOISE.
Captain_Morg
Captain_Morg
TAS
738 posts
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11 May 2011 3:13pm
You must have a helmet on at all times when you windsurfing
God bless and goodnight
northsail
northsail
NSW
97 posts
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11 May 2011 6:23pm
Go the GATH GEDI. Light, reasonable price and you can open/close ear piece or remove.Can also add a visor if you wish. The visor is good in the rain and offers more protaction for nose and forehead.Very comfortable.
r2908
r2908
NSW
214 posts
NSW, 214 posts
11 May 2011 7:08pm
my temple just kissed the board when tring to get the board and sail in the right spot for a water start a few months back in a hectic westerly... oh the pain!!! i had a normal gath on too . i ve since scored a visor gath for free from a mate... cheerin!!!
if your going to buy one seriously spend the extra $50 and get a visor..
and if you live in NSW you ll have to buy one on line from WA. .

also note gath sizes slightly changed around 2000 cause they added more padding around the ears...

i gave my old normal gath away. dam bet i could of sold it quick smart on this forum
swoosh
swoosh
QLD
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11 May 2011 7:14pm
i'm surprised noone has mentioned this yet, but i beleive the gath surf helmets that some people are talking about in this thread aren't actually properly designed to protect your head from serious impact.

the gath gedi helmet i believe is, as from the looks is the ion helmet that was linked. the helmets that are properly designed to protect your head from serious impact i think are typically the ones with the closed cell foam designed to crush on impact and absorb the energy of the impact.
glideontime
glideontime
NSW
207 posts
NSW, 207 posts
11 May 2011 8:20pm
been wearing gath since they first came onto the market, must be nearly[or more than] 30years.
had a lot of condescending comments from the macho too cool for school crew. but people have horrific ear operations for exostosis as the bone dam builds up to defend the ear canal from wind chill and water[ i also wear $2.50 ear plugs as well]. many have sun rust cut out of the forehead. its a personal choice but one worth weighing up with care. sometimes it feels like i am missing out on the fantastic free wheeling freedom feeling that comes with no helmet or head wear.
but most of time its just like putting a harness on, automatic, wouldnt go out without it.
the rose red coloured visor and the blue adjustable model is the best as you can have right back or down for late arvo sailing into the sun sessions. the red visor has good vision compared to the other dark grey or blue visors though.



r2908
r2908
NSW
214 posts
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11 May 2011 9:52pm
windanza said...

been wearing gath since they first came onto the market, must be nearly[or more than] 30years.
had a lot of condescending comments from the macho too cool for school crew. but people have horrific ear operations for exostosis as the bone dam builds up to defend the ear canal from wind chill and water[ i also wear $2.50 ear plugs as well]. many have sun rust cut out of the forehead. its a personal choice but one worth weighing up with care. sometimes it feels like i am missing out on the fantastic free wheeling freedom feeling that comes with no helmet or head wear.
but most of time its just like putting a harness on, automatic, wouldnt go out without it.
the rose red coloured visor and the blue adjustable model is the best as you can have right back or down for late arvo sailing into the sun sessions. the red visor has good vision compared to the other dark grey or blue visors though.






so the red one is usable.. ok im going to buy one.. cheers..
jsnfok
jsnfok
WA
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11 May 2011 8:37pm
holy balls after seeing that crash, never hurt my head though in a crash always my hands and ribs but after seeing that, that is just crazy,
elmo
elmo
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11 May 2011 9:30pm
Another variety of helmets are the Protec range which are supposed to be quite solid protection

www.protechelmet.com/products.asp?cat=11
king of the point
king of the point
WA
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12 May 2011 12:35pm
busterwa said...

i wear a helmet religiously if its above 15 knots. At some windsurfing spots i have seen "old boys" wearing like baseball catcher type helmets with grid across the face aswel!

helmets=good investment

"probally posted before"



Wonder if a helmet well even help ,,,that was a heavey .....stack...... may be a floatation vest you can inflate as well as a helmet for double and triple forward looping ,it would be pritty hard holding someone afloat especially when a set washes through. Lucky someone was there and onto assisting straight away.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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12 May 2011 6:07pm
elmo said...

Another variety of helmets are the Protec range which are supposed to be quite solid protection

www.protechelmet.com/products.asp?cat=11


So are the Gath ones strong enough to protect from impact? Weight is a big issue with my neck I couldn't wear any thing very heavy..I have a lightweight bicycle & horseriding helmets and I don't think I could wear anything as heavy as a motorcycle helmet anymore as thats one of the things that caused the neck issue in the first place....
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