This gives you and idea of how the quads work

freek!

Holy snappin duck poo that things quick

i am not so sure - there seems to be a lack of pop out of the lip - its all slide and less projection

obviously quite loose- and obviously he is an awesome sailor - no argument there

but in the physics of what i am seeing on this vid:

kinda looks like his front rail is a little bogged down through the lip - or it looks like he is sailing with his boom 4 inches lower than he is used to - a real downward pressure into the rails kind of look. doesnt look weightless and free

it may be that the wave just doesnt have the punch to launch the guys

Impressive takas and goitres - but have seen jaeger punt them cleaner and more out the front on widows and singles.. again - maybe the location doesnt have the punch in the lip to show the set up in its best light.

Oh and a new 2010 pryde as well...

I think alot of people don't realize that kauli rides customs that are about 2 ft long, always has. Regardless of the number of fins. I think any lack of pop is due to a crumbly wave more than the board, which was shaped by keith, unquestionably one, if not the, best shaper of custom boards in the world.

"Friggin amazing you can assess "rail dig" and 'pop" that through 5 minutes of video.

Spare us all the assessment and just admit it - it aint starboard but it looks friggin impressive!

If Jaeger is pulling them off cleaner which he may well be as he is an awesome sailor - then he needs to do it when it counts as well - in the heats and finals and in front of the camera so we all can compare!"


5 minutes is more than enough to see what is going on - I just dont like seeing a board bogged down in the water - it looks stuck - a similar look to an underfinned board where it just isnt gettting lift from the fins to lift free of the water. Maybe its the short board thing.

Got nothing to do with brands

i have stated that i thought Kauli's sailing was good - he just doesnt have my favourite style - a bit stuck in the water with very little pop.

Its a forum - opinions are here to be aired.

I have seen that some of the pros are using long and short fins on the quads and twins depending on the tack they are on, ie longer fins on inside rails for Hookipa (starboard tack) - Still many thoughts on the way these boards are set up.....

it's something to do with that jasonpryde combo that makes him sail like that

I agree with rider5, in that if he was using say a harness in white there would have been better camoflage in the white water. This would have given the appearance of the board and sail sailing themselves which would in turn mean that - if the board works this well by it self it must be awesome with a rider on it - and therefore they would sell many more boards and sails.

In defence of Kauli though, the wave does look like it is lacking in punch and the wind quite cross-off. So projection is lacking. We can see that the wave doesn't have much size to work up and down in big power U-turns.
Kauli is also so much faster on the wave than the other guys, but I put this down to him being the top class sailor that he is and the other guys are just weekend warrior class. The extra speed and ability is often seen by good guys at a regular break when compared with the majority of sailors.
It is the same question I ask when reflex turns up at the local spot to outclass the rest of us. "How does he get that speed, those turns, etc.."
In reflex's defence he does know a bit of what he is talking about.

For me personally I am not seeing much difference to when Kauli was on his twins or his old singles, on these kind of waves. The difference is how he stays in the pocket on the larger stuff like cabo verde. In the small stuff he has always sailied awesome and with more speed than most others. Reminds me of when Polakow hit the big time and was so much faster than the rest for so long.

There seems to be a real split between those that like the polakow / angulo big turn, big hit type of riding versus the surfing in the pocket shallow turn style of Kauli.

Hey Paul I too noted how much faster he was than the other sailors and also he seems closer to the rig, positioned further forward on the board, his board seems to sit flatter in the water. Whereas the other guys seem to be riding further back on the tail of their boards and turning off the tail of their boards. I think that K's boards have got so much more rocker and are shorter so that they fit into the curve of the wave giving him more speed. The other guys boards are a bit flatter which would be faster on bigger waves but in this place would be a bit like trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Oh and the four fins they probably look good like his wetsuit.

just watched the vid again - geez he's an awesome sailor ! Love the takas and goitres

Def some sick turns in there - no doubt. The underfinned in the water look is there about 60% of the time - but some classy hacks int here too

i think it probably has more to do with the lack of punch in the wave

Is it just me, or does it look like the aspect ratio is way out?

This would make him appear to sail much quicker (but would also make the waves appear smaller)...

Pet hate, sorry

That's all very well, but how does it perform on flat water in 8 knots?

evets said...



What is with the red thumbs for this?

Maybe it's people with big expensive widescreen TV's who are used to watching pictures that have had the living daylights warped out of them? Doesn't matter anyway.

I bet Kauli would rip waves apart even on my gear... the man's a freak

Rider5 said...

Interesting after watching the 08 twin vid side by side with the 09 quad vid, He is more flowing in the 09 vid yet seems more dynamic in the 08 vid.
Which style do you prefer ?

his style is 'slashier' with the twin fins, i dont think it looks as controlled as with the quads, which appear to be better for cranking around the cutback on the rail. but in the 2008 vid the waves are much better formed at he has a lot more wind power as well so perhaps it is all down to the different conditions.