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PhilSWR
PhilSWR
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3 Jan 2012 3:59pm
I spotted this board and gear on a local swap and sell site, and was hoping one of you guys with an eye for this sort of stuff could tell me if it's any good or just junk. It's for a mate just thinking of getting into the sport who weighs around 100 kg. Also is the price about right??

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150434863239947&set=oa.309073752447835&type=1&theater

Cheers for your help
mybrosweeper
mybrosweeper
NSW
1016 posts
NSW, 1016 posts
3 Jan 2012 4:03pm
PhilSWR said...

I spotted this board and gear on a local swap and sell site, and was hoping one of you guys with an eye for this sort of stuff could tell me if it's any good or just junk. It's for a mate just thinking of getting into the sport who weighs around 100 kg. Also is the price about right??

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150434863239947&set=oa.309073752447835&type=1&theater

Cheers for your help

Goodonyamate,might go round and have a look later and see what it looks like.


ikw777
ikw777
QLD
2995 posts
QLD, 2995 posts
3 Jan 2012 3:06pm
Old style slalom board. Narrow and not for beginners. Most likely to put someone off the sport forever.

At 100kg he'll need something wide and forgiving.
Zed
Zed
WA
1274 posts
Zed Zed
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3 Jan 2012 1:29pm
The board is worth no more than $200 and the sails, assuming they are of a similar age, $50 each. So not worth $600 and also not suitable for learning especially for a big fella.
mybrosweeper
mybrosweeper
NSW
1016 posts
NSW, 1016 posts
3 Jan 2012 4:33pm
Thanks guys,enough said.Looks like I ll just dig a trench in my SUP and go that way,
ikw777
ikw777
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2995 posts
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3 Jan 2012 3:56pm
This sort of thing is what you need.



Many of the brands have a board of this type. (you'll be popular too...)
jp747
jp747
1553 posts
1553 posts
3 Jan 2012 6:14pm
fun old style slalom board but must be fast! and looks faast! good price if you asked me well whatever the sails are though..nevertheless if you can't get the best of the 2012 why not! we all started one way or another on these style boards and never complained then..a 7.5mtr sail would be too big for it though but still....
AJEaster
AJEaster
NSW
699 posts
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3 Jan 2012 9:44pm
Nah Phil, not this one to start on for a big bloke - need width for balance, this is very old school and would be tough to learn on

The big fella would need something like yours, even a tad bigger, but if he has some balance he may be able to get away with a similar board to yours
jp747
jp747
1553 posts
1553 posts
3 Jan 2012 9:43pm
AJEaster said...

Nah Phil, not this one to start on for a big bloke - need width for balance, this is very old school and would be tough to learn on

The big fella would need something like yours, even a tad bigger, but if he has some balance he may be able to get away with a similar board to yours


oops! didn't see the stats...
PhilSWR
PhilSWR
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4 Jan 2012 1:25am
Thanks everyone

Good to have some experienced eyes run over such things. They all bloody look the same to me, though I could tell it was fairly narrow and may have been a challenged for a learner. Just ask me about fishing, hunting or surfing and I'm right

Cheers,

Phil
joe windsurf
joe windsurf
1482 posts
1482 posts
4 Jan 2012 9:42am
as a heavyweight of 100 kilos, i put a post on my blog about heavyweights and windsurfing

http://joewindsurfer.blogspot.com/2011/05/heavyweights-and-windsurfing.html

i started on a big longboard and just recently returned to the longboard world with a purchase of a Fanatic Ultra Cat which i love

now there are big short soft boards, SUPs, etc
if starting short board and over 100 kilos - get over 160 liters / 80 cm width
strongly suggest a soft deck
that JP Funster looks like a great starter - always the big question - is it a keeper or can it be sold ??
mybrosweeper
mybrosweeper
NSW
1016 posts
NSW, 1016 posts
15 Jan 2012 6:49pm


Hey my sailing brothers
Well had my first crack at it today and after an hour or so of falling off in some spectacular ways,got Phils new board to go forward for abou 40mts or so.I m friggin hooked.So from here I m going to wack a 12"finbox in the deck of my 9'4"SUP that rips in the waves,buy a rig and go from there.So Iam 100+kgs,whats the go with a sail rig?should I lash out and get something that will see me through my sailboarding apprenticeship or buy something cheap n nasty?
Thanks for your help guys.We live in a place that is perfect for this sort and Im hooked,yewwwwwwwwwwwwww


PhilSWR
PhilSWR
NSW
1104 posts
NSW, 1104 posts
15 Jan 2012 9:36pm
I'm pretty amazed you actually got up on my board, up-hauled the rig and then sailed off. Sure ya fell off in some pretty impressive ways, but mate, to get up and sail on in under an hour on the ocean is unreal.

I'm sure on your SUP you'll go even better- being used to it and all. Hopefully some one on here can give you some tips on a rig size etc. I reckon (and remember I know nothing), a sail around 5 meters would be sweet. Too big and it will rip you of the board. Too small and you'll be crawling along. More than welcome to put my rig you your SUP and play around when ever you want.

Good luck with ya quest. I want to see you tearing up those lazy waves that roll around the jail wall I plan to join ya when I get the basics sorted a bit.

Cheers mate.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
15 Jan 2012 10:00pm
Good to see a few locals windsurfing at SWR. When I close to there and windsurfed on the bay there was a local crew of a few of us. However the last few times I've been there, no one was windsurfing.

Good luck with it. I think there is a thread somewhere about being able to bolt in a mast base into a SUP like that with minimal modification. No need to stick in a finbox mast track.

Ideal sail size for a SUP seems to be around 5.5m to 6m, wave or freestyle sail. The bay would be an ideal spot for SUP windsurfing on a day when a big swell wraps around the point and rolls into the bay.
Carantoc
Carantoc
WA
7269 posts
WA, 7269 posts
15 Jan 2012 8:07pm
mybrosweeper said...



Hey my sailing brothers
Well had my first crack at it today and after an hour or so of falling off in some spectacular ways,got Phils new board to go forward for abou 40mts or so.I m friggin hooked.So from here I m going to wack a 12"finbox in the deck of my 9'4"SUP that rips in the waves,buy a rig and go from there.So Iam 100+kgs,whats the go with a sail rig?should I lash out and get something that will see me through my sailboarding apprenticeship or buy something cheap n nasty?
Thanks for your help guys.We live in a place that is perfect for this sort and Im hooked,yewwwwwwwwwwwwww



Check your mail box, I sent you a PM
PhilSWR
PhilSWR
NSW
1104 posts
NSW, 1104 posts
16 Jan 2012 9:36am
Mobydisc said...

Good to see a few locals windsurfing at SWR. When I close to there and windsurfed on the bay there was a local crew of a few of us. However the last few times I've been there, no one was windsurfing.

Good luck with it. I think there is a thread somewhere about being able to bolt in a mast base into a SUP like that with minimal modification. No need to stick in a finbox mast track.

Ideal sail size for a SUP seems to be around 5.5m to 6m, wave or freestyle sail. The bay would be an ideal spot for SUP windsurfing on a day when a big swell wraps around the point and rolls into the bay.



I'm really surprised at the lack of people wind surfing up here. The bay is like the perfect play ground. Great shallow corner for learning and waves on the point for carving. And pretty well all winds are on-shore. Hey, I even drive my 4WD right to the waters edge to un-load the gear. Not allowed to leave it there though

Anyway, I'm hearing you about nobody sailing. I've lived here for 20 years and would be lucky to see 1 or 2 out per year. I've only seen 2 this whole holiday period!

Seems to be a bit of local interest starting to generate now. Let's see if it grows

needsalt
needsalt
NSW
385 posts
NSW, 385 posts
16 Jan 2012 10:16am
I keep hearing all this stuff about how awesome Trial Bay is - mythical stories of huge crews of sailors from Syd who used to come up every year to enjoy it in the 80s etc, but I remain unconvinced! I agree with Phil that it's a great place to learn in light winds, but as soon as the wind picks up it doesn't seem so flash.

I've launched from the boat ramp at the wall in a big NE and had to wallow out miles through the wind shadow only to find it super gusty.

I've launched from the 4WD access and found it super gusty - from glassy nothing to tail walking overpowered in an instant. And lost a sail panel to a nasty shore dump that came with the thumping NEr.

Had a crack launching out the front of the surf club one day that ended in frustration as well. Although in its defence, probably not enough sail that day.

And I'm not convinced there's anywhere good to go in a S or SE.

I keep looking hard hoping to pick up some secrets, but I've never seen anyone else sail at South West Rocks.

I want to believe - I really really do. Please convince me that it really is awesome and that I shouldn't move to Port! Please tell me what I'm missing??
AJEaster
AJEaster
NSW
699 posts
NSW, 699 posts
16 Jan 2012 11:47am
needsalt said...

Please convince me that it really is awesome and that I shouldn't move to Port! Please tell me what I'm missing??


Just move to Port and be done with it, you are a wave sailor now .
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
16 Jan 2012 11:52am
Windsurfing was very popular back in the 80s and early 90s on Trial Bay.

There was a windsurfer and cat hire business that operated off the beach. A regular crew used to come up from Newcastle and down from Coffs. The Coffs crew came down for the westerlies as there are not many decent or safe places to sail an offshore wind around there.

Windsurfing was probably better back then because there wasn't as much sand in the bay and around the point. You can see how much the bay has silted up by looking at the speed limit signs. They are high and dry now but used to be in the water.

needsalt
needsalt
NSW
385 posts
NSW, 385 posts
16 Jan 2012 12:28pm
AJEaster said...

needsalt said...

Please convince me that it really is awesome and that I shouldn't move to Port! Please tell me what I'm missing??


Just move to Port and be done with it, you are a wave sailor now .


Yes but who would I sail with? You're a speed sailor now
mybrosweeper
mybrosweeper
NSW
1016 posts
NSW, 1016 posts
16 Jan 2012 1:18pm
Yeah mate we are so lucky to live here mate,even got a fellow sailor in Coffs giving me some gear.Loving this community,
yeahhhhhhhhhh
PhilSWR said...

Mobydisc said...

Good to see a few locals windsurfing at SWR. When I close to there and windsurfed on the bay there was a local crew of a few of us. However the last few times I've been there, no one was windsurfing.

Good luck with it. I think there is a thread somewhere about being able to bolt in a mast base into a SUP like that with minimal modification. No need to stick in a finbox mast track.

Ideal sail size for a SUP seems to be around 5.5m to 6m, wave or freestyle sail. The bay would be an ideal spot for SUP windsurfing on a day when a big swell wraps around the point and rolls into the bay.



I'm really surprised at the lack of people wind surfing up here. The bay is like the perfect play ground. Great shallow corner for learning and waves on the point for carving. And pretty well all winds are on-shore. Hey, I even drive my 4WD right to the waters edge to un-load the gear. Not allowed to leave it there though

Anyway, I'm hearing you about nobody sailing. I've lived here for 20 years and would be lucky to see 1 or 2 out per year. I've only seen 2 this whole holiday period!

Seems to be a bit of local interest starting to generate now. Let's see if it grows




PhilSWR
PhilSWR
NSW
1104 posts
NSW, 1104 posts
16 Jan 2012 1:48pm
mybrosweeper said...

Yeah mate we are so lucky to live here mate,even got a fellow sailor in Coffs giving me some gear.Loving this community,
yeahhhhhhhhhh
PhilSWR said...

Mobydisc said...

Good to see a few locals windsurfing at SWR. When I close to there and windsurfed on the bay there was a local crew of a few of us. However the last few times I've been there, no one was windsurfing.

Good luck with it. I think there is a thread somewhere about being able to bolt in a mast base into a SUP like that with minimal modification. No need to stick in a finbox mast track.

Ideal sail size for a SUP seems to be around 5.5m to 6m, wave or freestyle sail. The bay would be an ideal spot for SUP windsurfing on a day when a big swell wraps around the point and rolls into the bay.



I'm really surprised at the lack of people wind surfing up here. The bay is like the perfect play ground. Great shallow corner for learning and waves on the point for carving. And pretty well all winds are on-shore. Hey, I even drive my 4WD right to the waters edge to un-load the gear. Not allowed to leave it there though

Anyway, I'm hearing you about nobody sailing. I've lived here for 20 years and would be lucky to see 1 or 2 out per year. I've only seen 2 this whole holiday period!

Seems to be a bit of local interest starting to generate now. Let's see if it grows







Too good! Get some resin, a fin box, mast 'n' base and you're in Now look out tourist on the Trail Bay sand flat, now you got two dangerous sailors to swim from.
AJEaster
AJEaster
NSW
699 posts
NSW, 699 posts
16 Jan 2012 2:11pm
needsalt said...

AJEaster said...

needsalt said...

Please convince me that it really is awesome and that I shouldn't move to Port! Please tell me what I'm missing??


Just move to Port and be done with it, you are a wave sailor now .


Yes but who would I sail with? You're a speed sailor now


It's just a stage I am going through, I will grow out of it

nosinkanow
nosinkanow
NSW
441 posts
NSW, 441 posts
16 Jan 2012 2:58pm
I must admit I was one of those mobs that came up from Sydney in the '80s, the first place we went to was the point at Trial Bay in a NE. We were the only windsurfers there for the weekend.

Yes Nicole it sucked, well for the first few rides. Gusty to non-existent wind because of the shadow of the jail but once clear of that it was cleaner. Jumping out was weird as we weren't used to a NE coming at us directly onshore! We had some fun DTL rides but it didn't last long as the wind dropped off and that was it for the weekend. We played tourist for the rest of the weekend. Haven't sailed there since but would like to give it another go as I have a much floatier and forgiving board nowadays.

SWR beaches do face an odd direction compared to most of the other beaches on the east coast! For a good side shore session I reckon you need a NW, but how often do you get those? SW looks OK for speed runs but would get gusty up close.

If you look at the map below with the compass overlayed on the bay you should get some decent winds for wave rides but it won't be in the summer's NE'ers. I've also heard the NE'ers create some messy chop inside the bay. If you have a board that can slice through that it should be good. Maybe?

That little sand section at Trial Bay should be ideal to learn on Phil, NE'ers would be light, but if you venture out further at least you know you'll get blown back to the beach if you get buggered.


Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
16 Jan 2012 5:07pm
I found NE seabreezes, especially strong ones to be really fantastic wind for windsurfing at Trial Bay. The wind generates a swell that wraps into the bay. Great for jumping or gybing on. Its also a quick and easy sail out into open ocean for sailing across big ocean swell, something thats pretty difficult to do anywhere else nearby because winds of that strength generate huge dumping shorebreaks on most beaches.

Its a buzz blasting into the bay on high tide, jumping the waves. Also easy to get upwind using the waves to help. Fun also to do some riding down the line.





mybrosweeper
mybrosweeper
NSW
1016 posts
NSW, 1016 posts
16 Jan 2012 6:04pm
Thats what I want to hear,something positive.I paddle surf out there when the swell,wind,time off work all align and just love the joint.I cant wait to get some new skills under my belt and attack the joint on the sailboard!!!
There is a bit of a buzz starting with some SUP crew that are keen to sail as well,so we could see a revamp of sailboarding in the Rocks,yewwwwwww thanks for the new stoke people!!!
Mobydisc said...

I found NE seabreezes, especially strong ones to be really fantastic wind for windsurfing at Trial Bay. The wind generates a swell that wraps into the bay. Great for jumping or gybing on. Its also a quick and easy sail out into open ocean for sailing across big ocean swell, something thats pretty difficult to do anywhere else nearby because winds of that strength generate huge dumping shorebreaks on most beaches.

Its a buzz blasting into the bay on high tide, jumping the waves. Also easy to get upwind using the waves to help. Fun also to do some riding down the line.








needsalt
needsalt
NSW
385 posts
NSW, 385 posts
16 Jan 2012 7:10pm
Mobydisc said...

I found NE seabreezes, especially strong ones to be really fantastic wind for windsurfing at Trial Bay. The wind generates a swell that wraps into the bay. Great for jumping or gybing on. Its also a quick and easy sail out into open ocean for sailing across big ocean swell, something thats pretty difficult to do anywhere else nearby because winds of that strength generate huge dumping shorebreaks on most beaches.

Its a buzz blasting into the bay on high tide, jumping the waves. Also easy to get upwind using the waves to help. Fun also to do some riding down the line.


That is a relief to hear! Thank you! Where did you used to launch from? Any hot tips?

Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
16 Jan 2012 7:22pm
Just launch close to the boat ramp near the gaol. Park in the carkpark close to the boatramp.

needsalt
needsalt
NSW
385 posts
NSW, 385 posts
16 Jan 2012 7:23pm
nosinkanow said...

I must admit I was one of those mobs that came up from Sydney in the '80s, the first place we went to was the point at Trial Bay in a NE. We were the only windsurfers there for the weekend...



Thanks so much Raf. It's a relief to know I'm not the only one who has struggled to work it out!
PhilSWR
PhilSWR
NSW
1104 posts
NSW, 1104 posts
16 Jan 2012 8:13pm
Mobydisc said...

I found NE seabreezes, especially strong ones to be really fantastic wind for windsurfing at Trial Bay. The wind generates a swell that wraps into the bay. Great for jumping or gybing on. Its also a quick and easy sail out into open ocean for sailing across big ocean swell, something thats pretty difficult to do anywhere else nearby because winds of that strength generate huge dumping shorebreaks on most beaches.

Its a buzz blasting into the bay on high tide, jumping the waves. Also easy to get upwind using the waves to help. Fun also to do some riding down the line.

I know nothing about windsurfing yet, but I've seen people fair flying across the bay and getting air on the rolling swells coming into the bay. When I have seen people sailing (like once every year) it's in a solid nor-easter. Looks like their having ball to me! When I get a little more confident I'll take it on and see what it's like past the safety of the shallow corner There is hope then Nic..lol








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