Best things in windsurfing history

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Dip916
Dip916
WA
122 posts
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5 Jul 2016 8:07pm
Jenna De Rosnay - beyond any scoring system in this universe!

If you are too young to know who she is, Google her right now and enrich your life! If we had a modern version of her, the kiting business would collapse overnight and windsurfing would have a massive resurgence.
Piv
Piv
WA
372 posts
Piv Piv
WA, 372 posts
5 Jul 2016 8:50pm
Footstraps 10/10
joe windsurf
joe windsurf
1482 posts
1482 posts
6 Jul 2016 12:16am
if all you guys can come up with is some "hot chick", you must be old horny buggers

windsurfing is STILL evolving and has had SO many good things - these are just examples:

universal joint was REQUIRED for windsurfing to function
this allowed for a mobile hand held sail
first boards seemed to be round bottomed - flat bottoms for speed later
wider boards for earlier planing
footstraps for jumping
chest harness so your arms don't get too long
later seat and waist harnesses
full battens for shape retention
cambers for even more shape
adjustable downhaul for adjustment on water - Barry still workin on one ??
adjustable outhaul for adjustment on the fly
hydrofoiling is the latest ?? inflatables and WindSUPs too ..
sail materials went from dacron, mylar to monofilm , scrim and now new dacron @ HSM
fins went from tiny US base to trimm, power and tuttle
mast bases went from filling the "hole(s)" to standard mast tracks
and extensions went from eyelets / grommets to pulleys and US / Euro connections
people use tools to downhaul - less stress on back n legs
etc
etc
etc
2 and 3 piece masts - when are they ALL gonna go to CC ? constant curve ??
RDM masts
cutouts in boards and sail boom area
North has ratchet system for downhaul
neoprene for the cold
ice windsurfing
land windsurfing
RichardG
RichardG
WA
3761 posts
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6 Jul 2016 12:45am
MARK PAUL at Hookipa - April 1981 - using a converted surfboard

The shortboard revolution again led by Australians...


A defining moment in Windsurfing.

Early sailboards were easily broken. Malte Simmer, Mike Waltze and Mark Paul - Hookipa - April 1981



[b]The first "short" wave boards broke very easily - Hookipa - April 1981

[/b]


Mark Paul jumping at Hookipa - April 1981







Mark Paul sailing Long Reef Bombora Proto - circa 1982 Endless progression









Mastbender
Mastbender
1972 posts
1972 posts
6 Jul 2016 4:39am
The "Baja Fog".
A drink popularized by the earliest windsurfers to frequent Punta San Carlos, Mex.
A beer with added tequila and a twist of lime which fogs the beer. Served best in the beer bottle, but you have to take a swig out of it first to make room for the tequila.
The best thing to cut thru salt water mouth.

Joe: "neoprene for the cold"
Neoprene goes back way farther than windsurfing, Neoprene was invented by DuPont scientists in 1930, originally under the name "Duprene", the first wetsuit was in 1951.
Paddles B'mere
Paddles B'mere
QLD
3586 posts
QLD, 3586 posts
6 Jul 2016 7:23am
Wide boards making it so much easier to learn and keeping learners like me keen.
Tardy
Tardy
5339 posts
5339 posts
6 Jul 2016 6:01am
Windsurfing widows. 5/10


and 3 horses.

nag nag nag
albers
albers
NSW
1739 posts
NSW, 1739 posts
6 Jul 2016 8:58am
Mast base protector pad (reduced big toe injuries)

Bucket harness as opposed to chest/waist harness (reduced low back strain)

RDM - so much easier to flip
Hausey
Hausey
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
6 Jul 2016 12:05pm
The 'kanga cock' or the 'outboard motor fin' - hard to say which was better?
Al Planet
Al Planet
TAS
1548 posts
TAS, 1548 posts
6 Jul 2016 12:32pm

The people who keep working to make the sport more accessible..... because they just love windsurfing, if they wanted to make money they should have become golf or tennis pros instead.






Hausey
Hausey
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
6 Jul 2016 12:35pm








They might not be the best things in windsurfing history - though they show how far the sport has come !


seanhogan
seanhogan
QLD
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6 Jul 2016 1:50pm
joe windsurf said..
if all you guys can come up with is some "hot chick", you must be old horny buggers



"SOME hot chick" !!!!! Crikey Joe, nothing ever compared to Jenna !!

Better old horny bugger than young know it all wanker (just kidding don't get offended !)





Joffa3187
Joffa3187
VIC
37 posts
VIC, 37 posts
6 Jul 2016 9:17pm
Foots strap 9/10
Storm Sail 9/10
High wind daggerboard 5/10
"Wavejumper" 10/10
Bombora New Toy 3/10
Wild Winds anything 7/10


greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
6 Jul 2016 10:38pm
Rad Pads and later Gorilla Grip transformed to mainstream surfing
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
6 Jul 2016 10:41pm
CNC machined fins transformed to mainstream surfing

the importance of sharp release rails transformed to mainstream surfing

windsurfing innovated that sh1t....
joe windsurf
joe windsurf
1482 posts
1482 posts
6 Jul 2016 8:58pm
seanhogan said..
(just kidding don't get offended !)



how can i be offended - i set myself up - and no-one responded - until now
i did say she was HOT after all
AusMoz
AusMoz
QLD
1514 posts
QLD, 1514 posts
7 Jul 2016 6:52pm
Hausey said..








They might not be the best things in windsurfing history - though they show how far the sport has come !




Nothing better than cruising along with the wobbly boom then the mast comes out of the track!

Thought I forgot about the early days!
pirrad
pirrad
SA
850 posts
SA, 850 posts
8 Jul 2016 12:12pm
Shart Shields
Ian K
Ian K
WA
4169 posts
WA, 4169 posts
8 Jul 2016 11:27am
Nobody's mentioned the GT31? Is the jury still out? I'll give it a provisional 5.5/10
gregob
gregob
NSW
264 posts
NSW, 264 posts
9 Jul 2016 8:10am
And on the 8th day God created wind, and he saw that it was good...............
Harrow
Harrow
NSW
4521 posts
NSW, 4521 posts
11 Jul 2016 9:22pm
monofilm
choco
choco
SA
4181 posts
SA, 4181 posts
12 Jul 2016 9:05am
Wind
mathew
mathew
QLD
2167 posts
QLD, 2167 posts
12 Jul 2016 1:34pm
GPS's
snides8
snides8
WA
1731 posts
WA, 1731 posts
12 Jul 2016 1:02pm
Pretty hard to go pass the introduction of the harness
As the biggest step forward along with the shortening of boards
And removal of centre boards.
petermac33
petermac33
WA
6415 posts
WA, 6415 posts
12 Jul 2016 2:38pm
The worst is far and away GPS.

The best, this forum along with the Flying Objects surf / seat harness.

Shorter boards of 230 cm have made a big difference to low end power and upwind.

Hydro foil...time will tell.
RichardG
RichardG
WA
3761 posts
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12 Jul 2016 5:45pm
Surely the most significant change is the development of the shortboard in the early 1980s.

Without that none of the modern sport would be as it is.

The sub 9 foot /sub 8 foot and lightweight construction that is the biggest breakthrough of all.

Just as in surfing, I believe that "shortboard" revolution was invented by the Australians.



shoodbegood
shoodbegood
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873 posts
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12 Jul 2016 7:53pm
aribenasher said..
Surely the most significant change is the development of the shortboard in the early 1980s.

Without that none of the modern sport would be as it is.

The sub 9 foot /sub 8 foot and lightweight construction that is the biggest breakthrough of all.

Just as in surfing, I believe that "shortboard" revolution was invented by the Australians.





Was the first readily available "shorty" the Bombora Tri Fin ?
That was the first i remember, and the first i planed on that got me hooked !!
There was guys who had an Alpha Something as well, they were pretty cool
MarkSSC
MarkSSC
QLD
642 posts
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12 Jul 2016 10:09pm
Carbon fibre (the secret of light weight)
Epoxy resin (strength to hold it all together)
RichardG
RichardG
WA
3761 posts
WA, 3761 posts
12 Jul 2016 11:46pm
shoodbegood said..

aribenasher said..
Surely the most significant change is the development of the shortboard in the early 1980s.

Without that none of the modern sport would be as it is.

The sub 9 foot /sub 8 foot and lightweight construction that is the biggest breakthrough of all.

Just as in surfing, I believe that "shortboard" revolution was invented by the Australians.






Was the first readily available "shorty" the Bombora Tri Fin ?
That was the first i remember, and the first i planed on that got me hooked !!
There was guys who had an Alpha Something as well, they were pretty cool


I believe the story goes like this: "....Mark Paul took a short fat board to Maui one year [I submit this was 1981..]. Everyone was blown away by this board. Mike Waltze and others were all riding it. After the days sailing and a few beers on the hill at Hookipa they threw all their gear in the back of Mike's ute and headed home through the cane fields. They forgot to tie the board down and it blew out of Mike's ute and was lost in the cane fields. They searched to no avail. The next day still in a frenzy from the previous days sailing, they needed another board and quickly. Mike called Gerry Lopez and asked him if he had any old Guns lying around. He had a few pipe guns in the 7ft range. They put some mast tracks and footsraps on them and shortboard windsurfing was born. Now everyone was riding shortboards but much narrower than what Mark had designed that was lost in the canefields. This is the best exlaination of how shortboards evolved that I have heard from anybody. If there is a better explanation out there i would love to hear it?"

The above is quoted from another on sea breeze-"Fast Eddy" in around 2009,Posted 29/6/2009, 11:41 am inwww.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/The-Windsurfing-Movie-II/?page=2.

Assuming he is correct, it is possible, and open to fact check this and in support of that, I tender the following photograph of Mark Paul (circa 1980-81) with the short fat board, which I believe is the "sub" 6 foot pink, blue and orange thing on his immediate left. I submit that is similar to the one he took to Hawaii that year. The other shorter guy in the photo, on the right is I believe Scotty O'Connor:







Then also photographs at Steve Wilkings website of Mark Paul riding the 7 foot "pipeline" gun boards in 1981 at Hookipa. This corroborates the story.

For example, to wit photos of Mark Paul:








I believe you can purchase these and other photos (in full quality..) in all their glory at: www.stevewilkings.com

[I believe the "Alpha" boards were much later than the above.I know nothing about them and don't believe they rate as early runners]

The history above is somewhat like the Brewer McTavish rivalry over the shortboard in 1967 in Hawaii and the "Plastic Fantastic" 9 footer which Bob McTavish spun out on, but which blew minds.see "Going Vertical" movie


We should celebrate the above "windsurfing" shortboard story similarly..
Hausey
Hausey
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
15 Jul 2016 1:52pm
^^^

That link to www.stevewilkings.com is awesome aribenashner ! I had a look at the 1979, 1980 and 1981 photos and it's all there - the history of the windsurfing - and yes - I'd agree with you and Fast Eddy that Mark Paul was the pioneer of the short board!

The photos of Diamond Head in 1979, 1980 and Hookipa in 1981 show the evolution. How's the Australian 'speed board' in 1980 with the kanga cock - classic!

Your post above is correct - that is Scott O'Connor - I lived around the corner from him in those days and used to hope he'd stop when driving past when I was shaping my first boards (I used to shape them on the street as I wasn't allowed to do them in the garage) in 1982. I was in year 9 at the time and Midget Farrelly used to sell all the gear for the DIY board makers. My first boards were so bad (first one 9', second one 8'2") - though I put them in the 'Manly Daily' under 'Wavejumpers' and sold them both easily because short boards were only just evolving - and hot ticket items! I remember a guy rocked up in a Porsche and was desperate to buy them because windsurfing was so cool !

Those were the days....

I bought a couple of Scott's Hot Buttered boards soon after in 1982 - shaped by Terry Fitzgerald - one was based on Terry's Sunset guns. I took this board to W.A. on my first trip (for the '84 Windsurfer Worlds) and afterwards went to Lano, Gero and Margies - I could never ride that board! I think Scott was the first Australian wavesailing champion and the first 'pro' windsurfer in Australia? He would have probably been Neil Pryde's first team rider in Australia? I bought a Pryde Maui Tri-panel (which I think was the first Pryde / Maui Sails collaboration) off Scott back in those days and looked up to him and Rohan Cudmore who lived across the road from Scott - who also ripped!

Mark Paul used to be on the payroll of Sailboards Australia that had a big retail shop selling Bombora protos 'customs' near the factory in Dee Why where they were pumping out the rotomoulded Windsurfers and Bomboras..... Mark used to travel around the country in a new Volvo station wagon with BOMBAA numberplates. Several of the boards in the picture above used to be under his house at Long Reef.
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