Going bigger to uphaul

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azymuth
azymuth
WA
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WA, 2173 posts
20 May 2026 2:52pm
For marginal light winds and gusty winter storms I wanted a board that I could uphaul every time with no stress (I'm 90kgs)... but still playful enough to carve some turns and ride swells 😀

Had to install track boxes, easy enough with the foil dual track box cassette, I hope it lasts.
Short and wide (193x71x14 - thick!! ) so doesn't glide up on foil particularly early but it's super stable and slogs easily.

Feels fine in the air although obviously not as nimble as my smaller boards.








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AI.Dave
AI.Dave
TAS
165 posts
TAS, 165 posts
20 May 2026 5:08pm
Looks super floaty! Maybe will open up some new places to foil with that extra security of uphauling?

Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23651 posts
WA, 23651 posts
20 May 2026 4:43pm
Oh no. You were going to be one of my official testers for something similar to that but you live in western NZ now.
aeroegnr
aeroegnr
1773 posts
1773 posts
20 May 2026 6:38pm
Seems about right. My 145 had to use the jack plate really far forward to feel right with my phantasm setup. Twin tracks would make it a lot more usable. I like it!

Haven't touched it though since getting the freestyle 115. If it's really light I just run the IQFoil. I
miamiwindsurfe
miamiwindsurfe
202 posts
202 posts
20 May 2026 10:05pm
My opinion, not short enough, I like it under 180 cm, but could be few cm wider
Awalkspoiled
Awalkspoiled
WA
539 posts
WA, 539 posts
20 May 2026 10:07pm
I think the twin tracks are a great idea with that board. I rode one with the stock foil base and a Starboard Evolution foil and found it really squirrely and hard to control in the air as if the mastfoot were way too far back, but I guess for some that's an advantage. I prefer a locked-in slalom-board sort of feel.

On another subject I see that your foil has the Simmer logo but it looks essentially identical to the Patrik AIO 1120 wing which is my current ride. I know that design is identical to the version offered by Tillo, and I suspect by Exocet also. I've heard a murmur that they're all a Zeeko original design, variously licensed to others. Do you have any info about that?
azymuth
azymuth
WA
2173 posts
WA, 2173 posts
21 May 2026 3:56am
AI.Dave said..
Looks super floaty! Maybe will open up some new places to foil with that extra security of uphauling?



New spot ideas welcome 😀
azymuth
azymuth
WA
2173 posts
WA, 2173 posts
21 May 2026 4:06am
Mark _australia said..
Oh no. You were going to be one of my official testers for something similar to that but you live in western NZ now.




😂
Happy to help still - always couriers 😀
I think we can improve on glide, early planing (freeride foil) 🤔
What happened to Mr. Love's board (vers 3?)




azymuth
azymuth
WA
2173 posts
WA, 2173 posts
21 May 2026 4:20am
Awalkspoiled said..
I think the twin tracks are a great idea with that board. I rode one with the stock foil base and a Starboard Evolution foil and found it really squirrely and hard to control in the air as if the mastfoot were way too far back, but I guess for some that's an advantage. I prefer a locked-in slalom-board sort of feel.

On another subject I see that your foil has the Simmer logo but it looks essentially identical to the Patrik AIO 1120 wing which is my current ride. I know that design is identical to the version offered by Tillo, and I suspect by Exocet also. I've heard a murmur that they're all a Zeeko original design, variously licensed to others. Do you have any info about that?





Know what you mean - love a locked in feel, so I have to really lean in to the carves 😀

Always understood that they were Zeeko and licensed to Simmer and Patrik.
I've had my 920 for 4 years and can't find anything better - fast and good control in big wind ranges, use it in 12 to 30 knots
Also have the 720 and 550
I use a smaller tail wing than the stock Simmers 🤟

How are you progressing with your longer (downwind style) board design?




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