When should you repair a ding?

> 10 years ago
Reply
Register to post, see what you've read, and subscribe to topics.
newguy
newguy
654 posts
654 posts
14 Dec 2011 9:27pm
So the night before my first trip down south I check my boards and guess what, someones managed to rip a massive long ding down half of my short board. It's repairable but is gonna take time so I've stuck tape on it and hoping for the best. Forecast looks pretty average so hoping I don't need to take it out. What pisses me off is that it was a great board!

Now my other a fish, has this hairline crack that does not even seem to go into the foam. More like a scratch really.

So my question is, when do you have to take out the solarez and start fixing the dings? I'll post pics later but can a ding be left if it hasn't broken through the glass?

Cheers guys.
bakesy
bakesy
WA
682 posts
WA, 682 posts
14 Dec 2011 9:35pm
no glass broken? should be OK but a bit of tape will do for now, however, I'm pretty rough with my boards. I'm sure others will probably have a different view. On another issue, your first surf trip down south should be a very careful one mate, sit and watch for awhile before going in, it's three times as heavy as anything you've surfed, currents can be tricky, getting in and out is not always easy so be careful brother and take some photos as this is a real rite of passage for every WA surfer and I wish I had some photos of my first trips down there, enjoy!!
newguy
newguy
654 posts
654 posts
14 Dec 2011 9:48pm
Thanks mate, good thing you warned me because I honestly forgot about that and would of charged down guns blazing. Doesn't help that none of my mates surf and the only one who does (boogie boarder) isn't going. Definately going to sit on the beach awhile and suss out the conditions. Hopefully I can be ultra nice to the locals and see if any might help me out

GPA
GPA
WA
2529 posts
GPA GPA
WA, 2529 posts
15 Dec 2011 10:54am
I agree with bakesy... that 2" wide silver tape is something that every surfer should have in their boot or glovebox. It can save a surf-trip from being ruined...

I fix all my own dings... but I don't worry too much about fractures - particularly the difficult to repair ones. I've had silver tape on my fishes' swallow tail for months and it's is still there and keeping both the sand and water out. In fact, I had a very small fin-chop in the top nose of my last board, and when I did get around to fixing it the tape had been there so long (ie a year +) that the board had discoloured around it, whereas the patch under the tape was still 'new' white.

Just be aware that ragged edges are a danger to you and other surfers when you come off.

All the best for your SW trip.

doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
15 Dec 2011 11:16am
Tape is ok for a quick repair to get you going again, but an open ding eg glass torn or broken should be fixed asap.

This started as a small crack on the rail, the foam underneath had crumbled away to this when I sanded it back

This is the same ding repaired, the repair ended up bigger than it should of because it was left for too long.

PaddlePig
PaddlePig
WA
421 posts
WA, 421 posts
15 Dec 2011 4:10pm
I'm torn here because I don't find repairs too hard. I don't think most people would find them too hard either if they didn't worry about aesthetics either. So one part of me says fix it ASAP because fixing it isn't too hard at all, and like our canine friend said, they can get worse.

On the other hand, surfboard are simply tools that age, and the rider brings them to life. I was at cables once (yeah I don't surf exotic breaks) and I blew the left fin half out on rocks. Well, I just ripped the rest of it out and threw it away and kept surfing for another few hours on bare foam.

What I'm saying is, definately don't let a board (or it's well being) get in the way of you and a good time. But secondly, if you mix the resin slightly hot (especially on the final coat) you can repair a board ready for the next morning.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
15 Dec 2011 4:25pm
I agree and Ive got an old board that I take out every now and then, Ive just finished fixing a few of the old dings ect. Goes very nice for an old board and is now water proof. If I got a ding in the water on that board or any PU board for that matter I wouldnt stop surfing (depending on the damage)
The FireWire is a different story, any ding on that and its out of the water straight away.

With the hot coat thing, its not that neccesary to use too much as it will make the glass brittle. If its a warm day the resin will go off quickly anyway. If its cold put a heater on after you have put the resin down and will set quicker than you think.
bakesy
bakesy
WA
682 posts
WA, 682 posts
15 Dec 2011 5:52pm
Doggie this has concerned me for awhile, your use of the term Et cetera. You abbreviate it to "ect", it is actually etc. If you wish to learn more about this often used Latin term feel free to check wikipedia or any of the wonderful online dictionaries
arkgee
arkgee
NSW
639 posts
NSW, 639 posts
15 Dec 2011 10:08pm
dont think the gaffer tape would do any good herethis board came to me the other day...kid said he went up for the off the lip...fell and surfaced to find this...beach break. no rocks and says he cant recall it hitting himhowever there is a dent on the edge of it that fits my heel pretty well...all the same,in all the years I have been fixing boards...apart from ones that have been run over by cars, I dont think I have seen anything like this one, its a ripper...how would you tackle this one Doggy?!


surferstu
surferstu
1011 posts
1011 posts
15 Dec 2011 7:15pm
Couple of tubes of solarez will fix that ^
GPA
GPA
WA
2529 posts
GPA GPA
WA, 2529 posts
15 Dec 2011 8:11pm
arkgee said...

dont think the gaffer tape would do any good herethis board came to me the other day...kid said he went up for the off the lip...fell and surfaced to find this...beach break. no rocks and says he cant recall it hitting himhowever there is a dent on the edge of it that fits my heel pretty well...all the same,in all the years I have been fixing boards...apart from ones that have been run over by cars, I dont think I have seen anything like this one, its a ripper...how would you tackle this one Doggy?!




I'd actually be very interested to know how you do actually go about fixing that... a good pictorial / tutorial series would be great...!!
PaddlePig
PaddlePig
WA
421 posts
WA, 421 posts
15 Dec 2011 9:22pm
arkgee if you can fix that I'll call you a magician!! Wow! Massive damage!
smicko
smicko
WA
2503 posts
WA, 2503 posts
15 Dec 2011 9:38pm
bakesy said...

Doggie this has concerned me for awhile, your use of the term Et cetera. You abbreviate it to "ect", it is actually etc. If you wish to learn more about this often used Latin term feel free to check wikipedia or any of the wonderful online dictionaries


You know the one that $hits me?

People who can't spell lose, "loose" is a reference to a baggy old wizard's sleeve, to lose something is to misplace it.
bakesy
bakesy
WA
682 posts
WA, 682 posts
15 Dec 2011 9:51pm
yes Mick that one too, I think it's just post exam marking/report writing syndrome that it came to my attention, very common disorder at this time of year! Didn't get a thumbing though no surf btw
PaddlePig
PaddlePig
WA
421 posts
WA, 421 posts
15 Dec 2011 10:19pm
this ones more in speech but 'yous' kills me! It is a pretty clear indicator between gen y and gen z I have found, but I shouldn't generalise. None of my friend growing up said 'yous' but I am sure a lot of younger people these days do. Again though, shouldn't generalise.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
16 Dec 2011 8:45am
arkgee said...

dont think the gaffer tape would do any good herethis board came to me the other day...kid said he went up for the off the lip...fell and surfaced to find this...beach break. no rocks and says he cant recall it hitting himhowever there is a dent on the edge of it that fits my heel pretty well...all the same,in all the years I have been fixing boards...apart from ones that have been run over by cars, I dont think I have seen anything like this one, its a ripper...how would you tackle this one Doggy?!




In this pic I can see you have marked out a right angle and Im guessing you are going to cut it out so you can replace the foam rather than qcell. Resin the foam block in place, shape to spec and glass away Its a big job but not that hard, similar to a fin chop just bigger.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
16 Dec 2011 8:46am
bakesy said...

Doggie this has concerned me for awhile, your use of the term Et cetera. You abbreviate it to "ect", it is actually etc. If you wish to learn more about this often used Latin term feel free to check wikipedia or any of the wonderful online dictionaries


Yo say sum funny shiz der baksey
arkgee
arkgee
NSW
639 posts
NSW, 639 posts
17 Dec 2011 9:26am
got it in one Doggy...here you go GPA....as Doggy said it's not that difficult...mark out and cut straight lines smeer edges with Qcell mix, and stick foam on...leave overnight...will post more tomorrow.


Prawnhead
Prawnhead
NSW
1317 posts
NSW, 1317 posts
17 Dec 2011 10:29am
bakesy said...

Doggie this has concerned me for awhile, your use of the term Et cetera. You abbreviate it to "ect", it is actually etc. If you wish to learn more about this often used Latin term feel free to check wikipedia or any of the wonderful online dictionaries

Might be eligble for a membership with "dsylexics untie"!!
arkgee
arkgee
NSW
639 posts
NSW, 639 posts
18 Dec 2011 9:53pm
now you have to shape the bottom, which is not too hard because you just follow what is allready there....make a small template of the other side and mark it out...1st photo..cut out plan shape...then shape the rail using small bevel lines...just keep taking off the bevels until you can use abrasive gauze to finish the rail...you will notice in the last shot I have a bit of a bump in the nose...dont worry too much about it( as long as its only slight) you can just add more glass to that spot to build it up. more shots tomorrow.



PaddlePig
PaddlePig
WA
421 posts
WA, 421 posts
18 Dec 2011 11:04pm
You're a magician mate! That's awesome!
newguy
newguy
654 posts
654 posts
19 Dec 2011 12:11pm
Mates decided to bypass Margaret River and places to my annoyance. Spent the trip at a particular bay that I thought was flat as until I went for a run on the last morning and found waves! Imagine how much I was kicking myself. Having the whole beach to myself means I will definately head back down there! Now to post my dings...

Arkgee, you are a master mate!
arkgee
arkgee
NSW
639 posts
NSW, 639 posts
19 Dec 2011 3:55pm
time to put some cloth on now...as neat as you can, trim a peice a couple of inches bigger all round...mix up some resin and brush away (you could use a squeege but a brush will suffice on most repairs shot 2 you will notice I have added extra pieces to the little bump I created when shaping...do the bottom first, and leave for a few hours until its hard enough to fair in all the rough edges... the deck is just a repeat exept it has two layers of cloth...when you have done both sides the rest is just brushing on filler coats top and bottom then sand smooth...then a final coat that you sand with fine paper...a simple spray design and back in the water



smicko
smicko
WA
2503 posts
WA, 2503 posts
19 Dec 2011 1:08pm
Hey Ron what's the greeny/blue board in the rack in the background? Interesting rail line thru the tail, would you mind throwing up a couple of pics?
katana
katana
WA
644 posts
WA, 644 posts
19 Dec 2011 1:40pm
that repair looks good however i beleive youve created a large week point where the foam block meets the rail ',when the board flexs it will start to crack . it would have been better to make the block 135 degrees or at least 45deg at the rail .
PaddlePig
PaddlePig
WA
421 posts
WA, 421 posts
19 Dec 2011 1:53pm
Love listening to the gurus. I'm just a backyard chump who repairs small dings... But you guys really know your stuff.
arkgee
arkgee
NSW
639 posts
NSW, 639 posts
20 Dec 2011 8:53am
katana said...

that repair looks good however i beleive youve created a large week point where the foam block meets the rail ',when the board flexs it will start to crack . it would have been better to make the block 135 degrees or at least 45deg at the rail .


you may be right...I just didn't have a peice of foam big enough...it also depends on how much cloth you put down...I have repaired heaps of boards that have been in two pieces....and they never break on the repair (they may break either side of it but the repair is usually the strongest part... I do see what you mean....but hey, it's a whole lot better than it was
arkgee
arkgee
NSW
639 posts
NSW, 639 posts
20 Dec 2011 8:55am
smicko said...

Hey Ron what's the greeny/blue board in the rack in the background? Interesting rail line thru the tail, would you mind throwing up a couple of pics?


judging by the red thumbs smicko....its not kosher...pm me
arkgee
arkgee
NSW
639 posts
NSW, 639 posts
20 Dec 2011 9:01am
^^^^^^^
or just go to my website...it's on my blog
chrispychru
chrispychru
QLD
7932 posts
QLD, 7932 posts
20 Dec 2011 9:36am
arkgee said...

smicko said...

Hey Ron what's the greeny/blue board in the rack in the background? Interesting rail line thru the tail, would you mind throwing up a couple of pics?


judging by the red thumbs smicko....its not kosher...pm me


red thumbs..pffffffft just post it mate. i like anything to do with boards
Prawnhead
Prawnhead
NSW
1317 posts
NSW, 1317 posts
20 Dec 2011 10:42am
nice work arkgee ! just like a bought one!!
finished that new gun yet? few pics when you do would be great!!
forecast looks good for east coast Xmas swell wise !!
have a nice one
cheers
Please Register, or first...
Topics Subscribe Reply

Return To Classic site 😭
Or... let us know if a problem, so we can tweak! 😅