NSP or 7S

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barryballsup
barryballsup
WA
7 posts
WA, 7 posts
24 Dec 2008 1:51pm
Hi Guys,

Looking at getting a fish in the 6'3" range. Have decided to go for the NSP or 7S as both are for sale close to where i live and seem to have pretty good reviews. A mate was going on about the 7S, but the NSP is advertised around $200 cheaper. As a part of my research i'd like to know where the boards are made as i'm big on buying local. I can't find this info anywhere, however i suspect NSP is from NSW and the 7S is from China?

Any advice would be great and any further recommendations on local brands may be a help also.

Ta heaps.

Bazza
P co
P co
WA
458 posts
WA, 458 posts
24 Dec 2008 6:14pm
Both are from the Cobra factory in Thailand. State of art facility where most of the sailboard brands and tuflite surfboards are made. They are both GSI boards which is an Australian company.
DL
DL
WA
659 posts
DL DL
WA, 659 posts
25 Dec 2008 10:25pm
My 5'6" 7S super fish is one of the best boards I have ever ridden. If it snapped I'd go out and buy another one.

That said though, a 90kg mate of mine got the 6'1" 7S fish after I got mine and his was a plank. Complete piece of shizz that turned like a door. I imagine the 6'3" would be worse, if that is at all possible.

6'3" is not really a fish.

Go sub 6' to get real fish performance.

But yeah, both 7S and NSP are made in Thailand by global surf industries.
KEARNSY
KEARNSY
WA
1322 posts
WA, 1322 posts
26 Dec 2008 11:13am
DL said...

My 5'6" 7S super fish is one of the best boards I have ever ridden. If it snapped I'd go out and buy another one.

That said though, a 90kg mate of mine got the 6'1" 7S fish after I got mine and his was a plank. Complete piece of shizz that turned like a door. I imagine the 6'3" would be worse, if that is at all possible.

6'3" is not really a fish.

Go sub 6' to get real fish performance.

But yeah, both 7S and NSP are made in Thailand by global surf industries.

Any pics DL , Id be interested in seeing that. after all it is the season for fishing

DL
DL
WA
659 posts
DL DL
WA, 659 posts
26 Dec 2008 11:38am



KEARNSY
KEARNSY
WA
1322 posts
WA, 1322 posts
26 Dec 2008 7:51pm
Nice 1 mate, looks like it would be a bit of a rocket on open face. Are they the "Sunny" fins ur using there??
Hunter S
Hunter S
WA
516 posts
WA, 516 posts
27 Dec 2008 6:22pm
They'd be TC redlines if I'm not mistaken.

Crap fins if you ask me - but then I guess you didn't
cabstar
cabstar
VIC
328 posts
VIC, 328 posts
27 Dec 2008 10:41pm
has any one ridden the webber mini fish
DL
DL
WA
659 posts
DL DL
WA, 659 posts
27 Dec 2008 10:50pm
Hunter S said...

They'd be TC redlines if I'm not mistaken.

Crap fins if you ask me - but then I guess you didn't


yep, crap fins, but not crap enough to make me go out and get different ones.
DL
DL
WA
659 posts
DL DL
WA, 659 posts
27 Dec 2008 10:57pm
KEARNSY said...

Nice 1 mate, looks like it would be a bit of a rocket on open face. Are they the "Sunny" fins ur using there??


Ideal conditions would be from 1 to 3ft, crumbly face, and yes, it goes like a rocket and can be pumped up to a blistering speed on a fat wave. It goes fine in sucky waves as long as you can make the drop with no rocker.

As with all wide boards, you need to consciously stand close to the wave-side rail on sucky waves or in the barrel. To do a cutback, this means you need to do a bit of footwork to engage the other rail.

Oh, and it is very stable when doing floaters and foam climbs.
cabstar
cabstar
VIC
328 posts
VIC, 328 posts
28 Dec 2008 12:18pm
any of you guys kite wonderin how a board like this would go with kite
JAKE123
JAKE123
QLD
314 posts
QLD, 314 posts
29 Dec 2008 10:06am
i would go the epoxy 7S superfish in 6'0 or smaller even 6 foot might be too big but the super fish doesnt have the ridiculously wide tail of other fishes, its more of a cross between a shortboard and a fish. The bigger fishes (say over 6foot) can sometimes have a tail that is waay to wide and rocker thats way too flat making them surf heaps fast in a straight line but **** for turning. i think nsp boards might be slightly heavier than 7S.
barryballsup
barryballsup
WA
7 posts
WA, 7 posts
9 Jan 2009 12:18pm
intereresting comments guys, i'm 6'3" weighing in at 85 kg, just thinkin the sub 6 footers might be a tad short, surfing very small stuff with the odd trip to Bali. Appreciate the feed back.
bigpaul
bigpaul
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
9 Jan 2009 4:24pm
Bazza,

Get a custom made that way it suits you and the waves you ride, just be honest with youself and the shaper about your ability and the waves you will surf it in.

Big Paul
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
9 Jan 2009 8:44pm
i got a couple of rusty 6' fish. ones a piranha and the other is a hipster. one is a true fish the other is a hybrid type thing. both are awesome and i would recommend them to anyone looking for a fish. only problem i see with rusty's are they're finished a bit soft. you spend seven hundge and they depress and crease so easy, but saying that, they alway feel more 'alive' than any epoxy i've ever ridden.
i actually have two 6' hipsters for sale if any ones interested...
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
12 Jan 2009 1:16pm
Hi - just thought I'd add my 2 cents worth. I actually work for an australian board manafacturer BUT I do have a 6'3 and a 6'8 7S superfish (in PU). If you want a simple, reliable, stable board that paddles great and gets into waves no matter how small or big they are, then it really is hard to go past the 7s. The NSP is a very very basic design and although it is tough and fun it is very heavy for it's size and not in the same league as the 7s. The new 7s epoxys are ok and a good option I guess if you are travelling but just don't have the feel of the glass version. A new epoxy version is gunna set you back around $750 dependant on size and I reckon if you are going to spend that sort of dollars you should have a serious look at something in the tuflite range. Tuflite is a far superior construction (yet made in the same factory as 7s and nsp) and there is a far greater choice of board types and shapes. The tuflites will outlast anything made by GSI and have a much better resale value. Good luck with it and if possible try before you buy. If your local retailer can't provide you with a demo - find one who can.
uranus
uranus
QLD
2 posts
QLD, 2 posts
13 Jan 2009 10:11am
G'Day, I recently bought a 6'8" superfish XL. I surfed around victoria for about 10+ years but had to give it a miss after moving to Darwin and Cairns for long time. I have moved to Agnes Water and decided to get back into surfing. The ol' 6' twin fin didn't quite cut it. Besides being hard work to paddle and catch waves (i'm 50 now) the bloody thing kept sinking!!! After I got the 7S I found I could actually still surf!! I learned to surf in the 70/80's so am into a more fluid style of surfing. I find all this "air" and "floaters" a big wank. Anyway I highly recommend the superfish. It catches waves really easily, I found the thruster setup the best but am keen to give the quad setup bit more of a go once I get enough of the sheer fun of being on a wave again!! It handles small waves well, flat sections aren't a problem (whereas the twinfin just sank!!) I have had it out in headhigh beach breaks at Rainbow Beach and it handled it fine. Well worth the price!! and seems to be well made as well I have made a few boards in my younger days and I can't fault the craftmanship.
DL
DL
WA
659 posts
DL DL
WA, 659 posts
13 Jan 2009 12:22pm
billboard said...

The new 7s epoxys are ok and a good option I guess if you are travelling but just don't have the feel of the glass version.


Hey Billboard: do you know what the construction is of the 7S epoxies? Is it just the standard 2 layers of glass with epoxy resin and EPS core, or is it a more advanced laminate layup?

See boardlady's opinion on single skin glass-epoxy construction:

boardlady.com/anatomy.htm

"single-skin fiberglass over EPS core boards. I don't get it - all the extra cost and vulnerabilities of Epoxy, with mechanical properties worse than the old-fashioned glass board. At least those did not soak up water..."

cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
14 Jan 2009 2:53pm
DL said...

billboard said...

The new 7s epoxys are ok and a good option I guess if you are travelling but just don't have the feel of the glass version.


See boardlady's opinion on single skin glass-epoxy construction:

boardlady.com/anatomy.htm

"single-skin fiberglass over EPS core boards. I don't get it - all the extra cost and vulnerabilities of Epoxy, with mechanical properties worse than the old-fashioned glass board. At least those did not soak up water..."



Um, I'm not sure what "boardlady" is using for her testing of mechanical properties, but a properly cured epoxy laminate should have much better mechanical properties than the same laminate lamainted with polyester.

Couple more points

- ePS soaks up far less water the poly cores, which is why they can be used for coolers
- Vulnerabilities? huh I'm lost

-All ester resins have a "recomended" mixing ratio this is not to be screwed with. Yes pouring in extra hardener will speed up the cure of the resin but it will also produce a sub par lamination because you will loose your consolidation time as well as poorer mechanical properties or a brittle lamainte. Not to metion the extreme danger of creating a "pot fire" where your pot/bowl/cup of resin goes up it flames, this is very very dangerous.

There's a reason that all of the high end custom yachts are laminated with an epoxy system and not polyester
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
14 Jan 2009 2:39pm
checkout www.surfindustries.com and they show a cutaway and explanation of their "3 phase epoxy". The 7s has the same construction as all the other southpoint and related gsi boards. I am no expert but as it was explained to me by someone who has been to the cobra factory - basically the tuflite and naish boards get the premium materials/shaping and construction and the southpoints get the cheapest and least robust materials which is a bit of a rip because the gsi product is not much if any cheaper than tuflite/surftech boards. I know tuflites break but I have lost count of the amount of southpoints I have broken and seen broken in very average and not too heavy surf. Where I have really noticed the difference is in stand up paddle boards. Checkout all the southpoint type boards and look at how their rails are chipped and damages and compare to a tuflite or naish board which rarely chip and look really nice and new for so long - and yet these boards are all out of the same factory in Thailand. Kinda getting a bit off the topic so I reckon stick with the poly 7s if you are still thinking 7s because they are simple and proven and easy to repair and they work. If it's epoxy you want - buy a tuflite - no question.
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