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smh
smh
NSW
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smh smh
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2 Aug 2011 11:34am
Had a bit of bad luck over the past fortnight in wrecking my back and having to undergo surgery to remove a section of herniated disc.
Its going to be a long road back with hours of swimming laps and other bits and pieces.
Even more distressing is that my new McT evo 2 is ready.
I'm going to get rid of my midlengths and shorter boards and get an SUP to train on and hopefully surf down the track. I reckon it will probably be good for my back as I dont have to spring to my feet and the upright paddling position is supposed to be good for core strength.
I know a few of you guys in here have got SUP's so what is a good starting point ?
62mac
62mac
WA
24860 posts
WA, 24860 posts
2 Aug 2011 9:55am
Mate sorry to hear about the back geez must have been a bad one
Yes get rid of those short and mid length boards,get ya stand up it will
diffidently help your bad in the rehab stage and on going.

Billboard,would be to one to take to re sup,I have a 106 psh,its a beast to surf but can also flatwater paddle no worries.

All the best and speedy recovery.
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
2 Aug 2011 11:58am
smh said...

Had a bit of bad luck over the past fortnight in wrecking my back and having to undergo surgery to remove a section of herniated disc.
Its going to be a long road back with hours of swimming laps and other bits and pieces.
Even more distressing is that my new McT evo 2 is ready.
I'm going to get rid of my midlengths and shorter boards and get an SUP to train on and hopefully surf down the track. I reckon it will probably be good for my back as I dont have to spring to my feet and the upright paddling position is supposed to be good for core strength.
I know a few of you guys in here have got SUP's so what is a good starting point ?


Mate its important with the dodgy back to get a sup that is both stable and a good paddler and as light as possible to carry. There are some very stable sups around but too much width for stability can mean its a pig to paddle and will cause you more back strain. Depending on your size I would suggest something like a 10.5 - 11.2 starboard for a paddle and eventually surf sup or if purely for paddling something like a surftech bark expedition 14ft.
Depending on where you are located I can put you in contact with some knowledgable sup owners when you are ready so you can talk to them and try some of their boards.
I also have bad back problems and sup most days so feel free to pm me anytime for advice or assistance.
Bill
towball
towball
4634 posts
4634 posts
2 Aug 2011 10:31am
Sorry to hear that I think a Star board Drive is a good choice they paddle ok & surf really well , I would also consider a body belt my back is OK but I can feel a differance if I surf without one
62mac
62mac
WA
24860 posts
WA, 24860 posts
2 Aug 2011 10:35am
I'm going over the sup room to talk longboards
smh
smh
NSW
7269 posts
smh smh
NSW, 7269 posts
2 Aug 2011 1:21pm
Thanks guys for the responses. I thought it would be better to talk to you guys about it instead of a salesman in a shop. I have had a look at a few online.
I have paddled a 12 foot Laird a few years back in the river not far from where I live and found it pretty easy going because it was like an aircraft carrier and very stable. I've got no illusions though about how difficult it would be to surf one.
I think when the time comes a couple of lessons would probably help to put me on the right track. Maybe a try before you buy set up would be the go.
smh
smh
NSW
7269 posts
smh smh
NSW, 7269 posts
2 Aug 2011 1:24pm
billboard said...

smh said...

Had a bit of bad luck over the past fortnight in wrecking my back and having to undergo surgery to remove a section of herniated disc.
Its going to be a long road back with hours of swimming laps and other bits and pieces.
Even more distressing is that my new McT evo 2 is ready.
I'm going to get rid of my midlengths and shorter boards and get an SUP to train on and hopefully surf down the track. I reckon it will probably be good for my back as I dont have to spring to my feet and the upright paddling position is supposed to be good for core strength.
I know a few of you guys in here have got SUP's so what is a good starting point ?


Mate its important with the dodgy back to get a sup that is both stable and a good paddler and as light as possible to carry. There are some very stable sups around but too much width for stability can mean its a pig to paddle and will cause you more back strain. Depending on your size I would suggest something like a 10.5 - 11.2 starboard for a paddle and eventually surf sup or if purely for paddling something like a surftech bark expedition 14ft.
Depending on where you are located I can put you in contact with some knowledgable sup owners when you are ready so you can talk to them and try some of their boards.
I also have bad back problems and sup most days so feel free to pm me anytime for advice or assistance.
Bill


Thanks for the advice there Billboard. I'm down near Kiama on the NSW South Coast. I'm looking at something that is a good flat water paddler that I can also drag out into the surf when the time comes.
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
2 Aug 2011 1:58pm
It could be worth spending money on a specially fabricated roof rack attachment, with rollers. So you can lift the nose up onto the roller, then lift the tail up, and roll the board onto the racks.....

What sort of car do you have?

The other suggestion for the early days of recover, is finding a place close to home, where you can park really close to the water. Drive onto sand, or use a boat ramp onto sand, so you deliver the board to the waters edge.

Tough time to learn to SUP though. You will fall in a few times at first, so I guess the back needs to be able to sustain that....

SUP Tips - it's a fraction harder than it looks. KEEP YOUR EYES UP - LOOK AT THE HORIZON (this gives you a balance reference point - if you look down at your feet, you are more likely to loose your balance).

We'll sort you out with some paddling tips and pointers (do's and don't) from an experienced paddler near you.
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
2 Aug 2011 1:58pm
SMH - when the time comes get in touch with Mel' and Jason at jervis bay stand up paddle - they are very genuine and helpful people and can help you out with lessons and boards to demo.
smh
smh
NSW
7269 posts
smh smh
NSW, 7269 posts
2 Aug 2011 2:27pm
Thanks for that Billboard. Jervis Bay is only an hour down the road.
Simondo I have a 97 VW transporter and can slide a 10'6 into it without any probs.
The Minnamurra River is 5 minutes drive from my house and I can park and walk 20 meters to the waters edge so thats no problem either.
I do rememeber when paddling that 12 foot Laird SUP down there about 2 years back a little runabout went past me and I got the death wobbles pretty bad. Thats when it really hit me that being able to stay up out in the surf and get waves would be a bit of a learning curve.
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
2 Aug 2011 2:27pm
That sucks, feel your pain.

I have a 14' flatwater DC and one I'm still building for the surf. I'm a bigger fan of segregating them and not getting an "all arounder" no such thing exsists.

Reality is when the doc says you can surf again, if your anything like me it's straight to the longboards and the SUP's back in the rack.
towball
towball
4634 posts
4634 posts
2 Aug 2011 12:43pm
Was going to sugest they all come over hear when Lurie wouldn't bring the thumbs back
62mac said...

I'm going over the sup room to talk longboards


62mac
62mac
WA
24860 posts
WA, 24860 posts
2 Aug 2011 12:46pm
lol I've received some reds last night hahaha

Now smh,I dare you to venture into the dark room
smh
smh
NSW
7269 posts
smh smh
NSW, 7269 posts
2 Aug 2011 5:24pm
No thanks Mac but its probably all a little too serious in there for me I think. No doubt there are some nice people lurking around in there though.
Thanks for the advice Crazy but it comes down to money and I can only get one board for a while at least. I'm kind of thinking of something around 11 feet that will paddle good in the flat water but still be able to catch a little wave on when the time comes.
smh
smh
NSW
7269 posts
smh smh
NSW, 7269 posts
2 Aug 2011 5:25pm
No thanks Mac but its probably all a little too serious in there for me I think. No doubt there are some nice people lurking around in there though.
Thanks for the advice Crazy but it comes down to money and I can only get one board for a while at least. I'm kind of thinking of something around 11 feet that will paddle good in the flat water but still be able to catch a little wave on when the time comes.
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
2 Aug 2011 6:32pm
smh said...

No thanks Mac but its probably all a little too serious in there for me I think. No doubt there are some nice people lurking around in there though.
Thanks for the advice Crazy but it comes down to money and I can only get one board for a while at least. I'm kind of thinking of something around 11 feet that will paddle good in the flat water but still be able to catch a little wave on when the time comes.


Have a look at the 12'6 BOP style boards, might be what your looking for. There was a used DC in the classifieds
62mac
62mac
WA
24860 posts
WA, 24860 posts
2 Aug 2011 6:08pm
62mac said...

I'm going over the sup room to talk longboards


Getting hammered over there
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
2 Aug 2011 8:59pm
62mac said...

62mac said...

I'm going over the sup room to talk longboards


Getting hammered over there


Fck mate - there's some clowns over there that do my friggin head in

The biggest problem is that in many cases you have people who know very little - asking advice - and getting it - from people who also know very little

There are some awesome (and knowledgeable) people in the dark room but on the whole they don't tend to say too much because they get ridiculed or ignored by some sup riff raff who have never surfed (surfboards) and think they know it all.
62mac
62mac
WA
24860 posts
WA, 24860 posts
2 Aug 2011 7:08pm
True mate I'm just saying it as it is like Mak would and getting hammered for it.
The comments about hey we don't want a longboarder in the nationals wtf,some of the BEST sup'ers out there have come from a longboard background.
Tryfan
Tryfan
QLD
256 posts
QLD, 256 posts
2 Aug 2011 9:45pm
62mac said...

True mate I'm just saying it as it is like Mak would and getting hammered for it.
The comments about hey we don't want a longboarder in the nationals wtf,some of the BEST sup'ers out there have come from a longboard background.


Apparently some of the less-than-BEST sup'ers have been taking a liking to longboarding lately too...hard to resist the power of the dark side tho...
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
2 Aug 2011 9:47pm
The hawaiians who started doing sup as a commercial and competitive form of surfing were all champion longboarders in their own right and any good longboarder who has bothered to take on sup has done so generally with ease and with great competitive success. Considering that longboarders make up probably 10% at best of the sup community I reckon they have 90% of the talent
I can only imagine how longboarders would rule the competitive sup world if they ever decide to make the move across to the dark side

I am still keen to find out whether sup aligns itself with longboards, shortboards or stands alone in the future - as a competitive sport at least. Personally I hope sup splits down the middle as I think there is a future for sup and longboard to live and compete in harmony and the shortboard mentality of sup can go off and continue snubbing their nose at all other surf disciplines.

billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
2 Aug 2011 9:50pm
Tryfan said...

62mac said...

True mate I'm just saying it as it is like Mak would and getting hammered for it.
The comments about hey we don't want a longboarder in the nationals wtf,some of the BEST sup'ers out there have come from a longboard background.


Apparently some of the less-than-BEST sup'ers have been taking a liking to longboarding lately too...hard to resist the power of the dark side tho...


What the hell are you doing over here

Hey mac - may need to check the spam filter - one's got through
chrispychru
chrispychru
QLD
7932 posts
QLD, 7932 posts
2 Aug 2011 9:56pm
mate sup is the best thing for your back. said it all before but my surgeon is spewing on the coin he has missed out on me. now im better..pretty much ,what are you selling ,im keen for a bargain serious,pics and prices please
smh said...

Had a bit of bad luck over the past fortnight in wrecking my back and having to undergo surgery to remove a section of herniated disc.
Its going to be a long road back with hours of swimming laps and other bits and pieces.
Even more distressing is that my new McT evo 2 is ready.
I'm going to get rid of my midlengths and shorter boards and get an SUP to train on and hopefully surf down the track. I reckon it will probably be good for my back as I dont have to spring to my feet and the upright paddling position is supposed to be good for core strength.
I know a few of you guys in here have got SUP's so what is a good starting point ?


cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
2 Aug 2011 10:10pm
chrispychru said...

mate sup is the best thing for your back. said it all before but my surgeon is spewing on the coin he has missed out on me. now im better..pretty much ,what are you selling ,im keen for a bargain serious,pics and prices please
smh said...

Had a bit of bad luck over the past fortnight in wrecking my back and having to undergo surgery to remove a section of herniated disc.
Its going to be a long road back with hours of swimming laps and other bits and pieces.
Even more distressing is that my new McT evo 2 is ready.
I'm going to get rid of my midlengths and shorter boards and get an SUP to train on and hopefully surf down the track. I reckon it will probably be good for my back as I dont have to spring to my feet and the upright paddling position is supposed to be good for core strength.
I know a few of you guys in here have got SUP's so what is a good starting point ?





christ crispy, like a lawyer chasing an ambo down the street. Phone arkgee see what he's selling the slice for.
62mac
62mac
WA
24860 posts
WA, 24860 posts
2 Aug 2011 8:20pm
billboard said...

Tryfan said...

62mac said...

True mate I'm just saying it as it is like Mak would and getting hammered for it.
The comments about hey we don't want a longboarder in the nationals wtf,some of the BEST sup'ers out there have come from a longboard background.


Apparently some of the less-than-BEST sup'ers have been taking a liking to longboarding lately too...hard to resist the power of the dark side tho...


What the hell are you doing over here

Hey mac - may need to check the spam filter - one's got through

I turned the filter off because after speaking to a guy or two at sup shop the other day I realized that there are good people who live in the dark side.Funny thing is it took a lot of courage to walk in and glad I did.

But really I think its great that some of us know the real deal and know where it all started and it wasn't on a surf ski
Tryfan
Tryfan
QLD
256 posts
QLD, 256 posts
2 Aug 2011 10:25pm
billboard said...

Tryfan said...

62mac said...

True mate I'm just saying it as it is like Mak would and getting hammered for it.
The comments about hey we don't want a longboarder in the nationals wtf,some of the BEST sup'ers out there have come from a longboard background.


Apparently some of the less-than-BEST sup'ers have been taking a liking to longboarding lately too...hard to resist the power of the dark side tho...


What the hell are you doing over here

Hey mac - may need to check the spam filter - one's got through


Just can't get the image from my head of a certain longboarder paddling around on an 8'2 'short board sup', hooting and hollering like a ten year old...

smh:
BB is right about Jason and Mel from Jervis Bay tho, they will definitely set you in the right direction. Good call asking over here though, the other side would have directed you to the obligatory fat bananas that might not be ideal for your recovery.
Makaha
Makaha
1145 posts
1145 posts
2 Aug 2011 9:06pm
WTF is going on in here,sorry I'm late in

Gate Keeper
towball
towball
4634 posts
4634 posts
3 Aug 2011 5:05am
And another one comes over nice and frendly over here Scotty. I gotted say the flat water faction does'nt do it for me on the dark side ,started riding a long board in 1968 so this is my routes surf is where its at. With SUP Ican ride a 7'11"and act like ashort boarder or ride my 12' and do the foot work then I still ride a Mel in the summer and Richer for it
Tryfan said...

62mac said...

True mate I'm just saying it as it is like Mak would and getting hammered for it.
The comments about hey we don't want a longboarder in the nationals wtf,some of the BEST sup'ers out there have come from a longboard background.


Apparently some of the less-than-BEST sup'ers have been taking a liking to longboarding lately too...hard to resist the power of the dark side tho...


chrispychru
chrispychru
QLD
7932 posts
QLD, 7932 posts
3 Aug 2011 1:10pm
im not that evil,i hate lawyers but i like a bargain and since im getting back to full health cant wait to get prone board again sup will always have a place in my shed though mac will be in to say hello soon
cRAZY Canuk said...

chrispychru said...

mate sup is the best thing for your back. said it all before but my surgeon is spewing on the coin he has missed out on me. now im better..pretty much ,what are you selling ,im keen for a bargain serious,pics and prices please
smh said...

Had a bit of bad luck over the past fortnight in wrecking my back and having to undergo surgery to remove a section of herniated disc.
Its going to be a long road back with hours of swimming laps and other bits and pieces.
Even more distressing is that my new McT evo 2 is ready.
I'm going to get rid of my midlengths and shorter boards and get an SUP to train on and hopefully surf down the track. I reckon it will probably be good for my back as I dont have to spring to my feet and the upright paddling position is supposed to be good for core strength.
I know a few of you guys in here have got SUP's so what is a good starting point ?





christ crispy, like a lawyer chasing an ambo down the street. Phone arkgee see what he's selling the slice for.


beerssup
beerssup
NSW
513 posts
NSW, 513 posts
4 Aug 2011 2:27pm
Tryfan said...

62mac said...

True mate I'm just saying it as it is like Mak would and getting hammered for it.
The comments about hey we don't want a longboarder in the nationals wtf,some of the BEST sup'ers out there have come from a longboard background.


Apparently some of the less-than-BEST sup'ers have been taking a liking to longboarding lately too...hard to resist the power of the dark Pp side tho...


What do you need that paddle for again
I have forgot?
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
4 Aug 2011 12:48pm
beerssup said...

Tryfan said...

62mac said...

True mate I'm just saying it as it is like Mak would and getting hammered for it.
The comments about hey we don't want a longboarder in the nationals wtf,some of the BEST sup'ers out there have come from a longboard background.


Apparently some of the less-than-BEST sup'ers have been taking a liking to longboarding lately too...hard to resist the power of the dark Pp side tho...


What do you need that paddle for again
I have forgot?

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