Anybody surfed an Alaia before?

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newguy
newguy
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15 Feb 2012 10:39am
Just curious seeing if any of LB'ers have. I've always openly admitted I'm not the best surfer but have been curious about riding different boards and getting a feel for things. Love riding my twinnie, and have been keeping an eye out for any cheap single fins or quads just to get a feel how they ride.

Which brings me to being bored and watching youtube clips of people on alaia's. To me it looks fun and the surfers just seem to gracefully glide down the wave. Anybody ridden one? Whats it like compared to boards with fins?
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
15 Feb 2012 11:19am
Never even thought of riding one, too hard basket for me mate.

Hows the repair on the 6,6? All good?
newguy
newguy
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654 posts
15 Feb 2012 11:38am
doggie said...

Never even thought of riding one, too hard basket for me mate.

Hows the repair on the 6,6? All good?


Haven't had the swell to take it out in . Been riding my little twinnie but might chuck the board in the boot too next time I go wave hunting. 'Too hard basket'? I'm sure ya could if ya gave it a shot! I've seen a few vids of dogs riding boards pretty well
Simondo
Simondo
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8025 posts
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15 Feb 2012 3:17pm
My 2 cents worth...
Rob Machado makes it look really easy. But I can assure you, it's not easy.

Wooden Alaia's have a really neutral weight to them in the water. Even if the wood density is only 0.2 compared to water at 1.0 (salty stuff can be 1.02 to 1.03)... The volume of the average Alaia might only be 160cm x 45cm x 2.2cm thick, max = 15,840 cm3. In reality they might be closer to 12-13,000. once the nose it trimmed, and rails are sharpened, etc.

13,000cm3 = 13 Litres of volume. And maybe 3kg of Alaia...

Malibu's probably range from 55-90 Litres of volume.

13 heavy litres v's 70 light litres is Chalk & Cheese, in regard to getting them going....

Keep in mind that Machado has maybe 35 years of surfing experience, and it still a sponsored "soul" (semi pro / pro) surfer. He is very light, and can probably still out surf and out paddle the bottom part of the Top 44. I think if Rob was on tour, he would still comfortably finish the season in 6th-10th, and at worst Top 15.

When Alaia's are discussed, often one of the first things mentioned is, "but only Machado & Rasta are any good at riding them".
doggie
doggie
WA
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15 Feb 2012 12:19pm
Top 15+ for sure Simo.
Simondo
Simondo
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15 Feb 2012 3:27pm
doggie said...

Top 15+ for sure Simo.


http://www.tomwaterhouse.com/Surfing.asp?cgroup=203187

I would price him at about $13.00 with Taj. That's equal 8th.

Why is Taylor Knox still kicking around. Don't get me wrong, I rate him, he still surfs unreal and stuff, and is probably a top bloke. He must love competitive surfing... Or maybe he hasn't come up with any better ideas yet...

If I could choose a new life, I'd probably choose Rob's !! Getting paid to be a great guy and great surfer... Slip under the radar... But still be quite comfortable with finances.
newguy
newguy
654 posts
654 posts
15 Feb 2012 12:44pm
Simondo said...

My 2 cents worth...
Rob Machado makes it look really easy. But I can assure you, it's not easy.

Wooden Alaia's have a really neutral weight to them in the water. Even if the wood density is only 0.2 compared to water at 1.0 (salty stuff can be 1.02 to 1.03)... The volume of the average Alaia might only be 160cm x 45cm x 2.2cm thick, max = 15,840 cm3. In reality they might be closer to 12-13,000. once the nose it trimmed, and rails are sharpened, etc.

13,000cm3 = 13 Litres of volume. And maybe 3kg of Alaia...

Malibu's probably range from 55-90 Litres of volume.

13 heavy litres v's 70 light litres is Chalk & Cheese, in regard to getting them going....

Keep in mind that Machado has maybe 35 years of surfing experience, and it still a sponsored "soul" (semi pro / pro) surfer. He is very light, and can probably still out surf and out paddle the bottom part of the Top 44. I think if Rob was on tour, he would still comfortably finish the season in 6th-10th, and at worst Top 15.

When Alaia's are discussed, often one of the first things mentioned is, "but only Machado & Rasta are any good at riding them".


... Still wouldn't mind trying and nose diving or stacking it
Simondo
Simondo
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15 Feb 2012 3:49pm
Yeah, I meant to say, don't take that the wrong way, with the negativity at all. Go for it !!
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
15 Feb 2012 12:50pm
Simondo said...

doggie said...

Top 15+ for sure Simo.


http://www.tomwaterhouse.com/Surfing.asp?cgroup=203187

I would price him at about $13.00 with Taj. That's equal 8th.

Why is Taylor Knox still kicking around. Don't get me wrong, I rate him, he still surfs unreal and stuff, and is probably a top bloke. He must love competitive surfing... Or maybe he hasn't come up with any better ideas yet...

If I could choose a new life, I'd probably choose Rob's !! Getting paid to be a great guy and great surfer... Slip under the radar... But still be quite comfortable with finances.


Mate if I was Taylor I would be milking it as much as possible, who really wants to do real work?
Simondo
Simondo
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15 Feb 2012 4:30pm
doggie said...

Simondo said...

doggie said...

Top 15+ for sure Simo.


http://www.tomwaterhouse.com/Surfing.asp?cgroup=203187

I would price him at about $13.00 with Taj. That's equal 8th.

Why is Taylor Knox still kicking around. Don't get me wrong, I rate him, he still surfs unreal and stuff, and is probably a top bloke. He must love competitive surfing... Or maybe he hasn't come up with any better ideas yet...

If I could choose a new life, I'd probably choose Rob's !! Getting paid to be a great guy and great surfer... Slip under the radar... But still be quite comfortable with finances.


Mate if I was Taylor I would be milking it as much as possible, who really wants to do real work?


I'm just saying that Rob Machado is probably a better milker !
JasonProsser
JasonProsser
NSW
268 posts
NSW, 268 posts
15 Feb 2012 4:41pm
I have shaped and surfed my own Paipo - a mini 4ft Alaia - that you ride like a bodyboard or Macca's tray. Definately a wierd feelig paddling a board that won't float your weight, however if you treat it like you are bodysurfing, when you catch a wave, it just takes off. I've never been any good at catching waves bodysurfing, but with the Paipo, that all changed. The noticable thing is the speed you get from it.
The best thing about it though, is I made it by hand, without power tools, and learned a lot about what makes a board work. It makes you realise that you can make something that surfs, and do not need to spend big money to get out in the waves. The smiles you will have when you ride someting simple that you have created yourself are well worth the effort. Also spurred me on to shape a twin fish for my kids. Work in progress already.
And my sons love it, they have a ball when they go out on it.
I'd reccomend everyone with an interest in the surf, have a go. It's an amazing way to learn, create and be stoked. Make one for yourself, make the next one for someone else who needs to get stoked.




SP
SP
10982 posts
SP SP
10982 posts
15 Feb 2012 1:44pm
Simondo said...

doggie said...

Simondo said...

doggie said...

Top 15+ for sure Simo.


http://www.tomwaterhouse.com/Surfing.asp?cgroup=203187

I would price him at about $13.00 with Taj. That's equal 8th.

Why is Taylor Knox still kicking around. Don't get me wrong, I rate him, he still surfs unreal and stuff, and is probably a top bloke. He must love competitive surfing... Or maybe he hasn't come up with any better ideas yet...

If I could choose a new life, I'd probably choose Rob's !! Getting paid to be a great guy and great surfer... Slip under the radar... But still be quite comfortable with finances.


Mate if I was Taylor I would be milking it as much as possible, who really wants to do real work?


I'm just saying that Rob Machado is probably a better milker !


Taylor has the best forehand cutie on tour...but yeah, why? Not like his results are great but consistent enough to stay on tour.
I guess if your on you stay on, some of the best waves in good conditions with only usually one other bloke out so why would you stop.
chrispychru
chrispychru
QLD
7932 posts
QLD, 7932 posts
15 Feb 2012 3:44pm
jason what a unreal post,made me stoked reading it. now i will pm you my details so we can organise the next one you make to be delivered to me. so i can be more stoked
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
15 Feb 2012 2:50pm
SP said...

Simondo said...

doggie said...

Simondo said...

doggie said...

Top 15+ for sure Simo.


http://www.tomwaterhouse.com/Surfing.asp?cgroup=203187

I would price him at about $13.00 with Taj. That's equal 8th.

Why is Taylor Knox still kicking around. Don't get me wrong, I rate him, he still surfs unreal and stuff, and is probably a top bloke. He must love competitive surfing... Or maybe he hasn't come up with any better ideas yet...

If I could choose a new life, I'd probably choose Rob's !! Getting paid to be a great guy and great surfer... Slip under the radar... But still be quite comfortable with finances.


Mate if I was Taylor I would be milking it as much as possible, who really wants to do real work?


I'm just saying that Rob Machado is probably a better milker !


Taylor has the best forehand cutie on tour...but yeah, why? Not like his results are great but consistent enough to stay on tour.
I guess if your on you stay on, some of the best waves in good conditions with only usually one other bloke out so why would you stop.



I would say Rob is a better surfer than Taylor.
Kagey
Kagey
569 posts
569 posts
15 Feb 2012 2:57pm
JasonProsser said...

I have shaped and surfed my own Paipo - a mini 4ft Alaia - that you ride like a bodyboard or Macca's tray. Definately a wierd feelig paddling a board that won't float your weight, however if you treat it like you are bodysurfing, when you catch a wave, it just takes off. I've never been any good at catching waves bodysurfing, but with the Paipo, that all changed. The noticable thing is the speed you get from it.
The best thing about it though, is I made it by hand, without power tools, and learned a lot about what makes a board work. It makes you realise that you can make something that surfs, and do not need to spend big money to get out in the waves. The smiles you will have when you ride someting simple that you have created yourself are well worth the effort. Also spurred me on to shape a twin fish for my kids. Work in progress already.
And my sons love it, they have a ball when they go out on it.
I'd reccomend everyone with an interest in the surf, have a go. It's an amazing way to learn, create and be stoked. Make one for yourself, make the next one for someone else who needs to get stoked.







Dunno what you're talking about Paipo's look easy.....



How good are they!?!

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