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Savage1
Savage1
NSW
63 posts
NSW, 63 posts
13 Feb 2010 11:01am
G'day all, Thanks for the good forum.

At this stage I'm thinking of picking up Naish as my first board.

I'll be using the board near the mouth of the river on one metre waves and swells, plus some down winding and stillwater.

The package comes with the Naish Carbon paddle, is this paddle any good ??? or should I purchase something like a Carbon Kialoa separately. (it would be easier to go with the package, but I don't want to get stuck with a pricey paddle I'm not happy with)

If you recommend a paddle other than the Naish can you quote me the brand and the style.(model)

Thanks in advance for any info

Cheers Sav
surfydad
surfydad
QLD
166 posts
QLD, 166 posts
13 Feb 2010 12:20pm
If you are a newbie and this is your first SUP, go with the package.
OG SUP
OG SUP
VIC
3516 posts
VIC, 3516 posts
13 Feb 2010 11:34pm
I would suggest a Kialoa, Methane for the surf and Shaka Pu for the flat water.

Some prefer the Shaka Pu for both but I like the increased acceleration of the methane onto a wave.

phill

DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
14 Feb 2010 7:03am
OG SUP said...

I would suggest a Kialoa, Methane for the surf and Shaka Pu for the flat water.

Some prefer the Shaka Pu for both but I like the increased acceleration of the methane onto a wave.

phill




I agree with Phill..

btw.. What type of Naish board are you getting?

DJ

billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
14 Feb 2010 6:33pm
I fully agree with surfydad - don't overthink it at this stage - just get a good board/paddle package and get into it. One paddle is quite ok for flatwater and surf - you do not need to spend the extra dollars on two different paddles when first starting out. I have limited experience with the naish paddles but a recent new one I used although feeling a bit heavy for a carbon did paddle really nicely and would be great for your first paddle and well worth hanging onto down the track if you ever decide you want to upgrade.
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
14 Feb 2010 7:53pm
billboard said...

I fully agree with surfydad - don't overthink it at this stage - just get a good board/paddle package and get into it. One paddle is quite ok for flatwater and surf - you do not need to spend the extra dollars on two different paddles when first starting out.


I was thinking one or the other not both.. ..and it all comes down to what you can afford.

For sure there's nothing wrong with the new Naish paddles but IMO compared to Kialoa and Quick Blades it's like comparing a Holden Monaro and a Ferrari Testarossa..

DJ

OG SUP
OG SUP
VIC
3516 posts
VIC, 3516 posts
14 Feb 2010 8:21pm
My suggestion is go to Demo Days and try them all until you find one you like. Try big blades small blades longer shaft short shafts the works.

Hook up with guys form the forum and try theirs!

When it comes to paddles, everyone I know that started out with a cheaper heavier paddle normally with a large blade and way too long is disappointed or injured and trades up.

The paddle is how you transmit your energy to the water and its critical.

I had a Next Crowbar for quite a while and thought it was the ducks nuts! I struggled day after day and caught the odd wave here and there but it wasnt an enjoyable experience. The blade in reality was way to large and inefficient for me even at 105 and 6ft.

When I changed to a smaller blade and quality light carbon paddle it transformed my ability to catch waves by a factor of at least 10 fold and allowed me to shorten my board size 3 weeks later to 10'6 from 12ft. 6 weeks after that I went to a 9'6. The single most important factor was the paddle. I still have the same paddle over a year later.

I often see people in the line up with paddles way too heavy and way to big and they say the board doesnt work. You hand them your paddle and magically mystically the board transforms. There was nothing wrong with the board in the first place. The blade was simply way too big! Smaller blade allows you to get moving easier with less stress on your muscles when you have little or no paddle fitness as a beginer.

Its simple if you cant catch a wave you cant surf it! If you cant surf it you dont improve!

On flat water the same applies, i see people pushing with huge heavy blades wondering why they are worn out in 300m or complaining about shoulder injuries.

Buy quality once.

My 2 cents.

Phill
PTWoody
PTWoody
VIC
3982 posts
VIC, 3982 posts
14 Feb 2010 8:37pm
Phill's 2 cents makes a whole lot of sense, but unfortunately such sense will cost me dollars. That Pipes paddle beckons.
Savage1
Savage1
NSW
63 posts
NSW, 63 posts
16 Feb 2010 12:22am
Thanks all for the feedback

I'll try and test drive a few paddles before I jump in........

DJ.. I'm still undecided on the board, went for a demo day last Sunday and now more confused than ever!!!! Maybe a Coreban Rockett
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
16 Feb 2010 2:04am
Savage1 said...

Thanks all for the feedback

I'll try and test drive a few paddles before I jump in........

DJ.. I'm still undecided on the board, went for a demo day last Sunday and now more confused than ever!!!! Maybe a Coreban Rockett


I just checked the Corban site and the Rockett looks like a great board..

I wonder if anyone else here has paddled one?

DJ

bingbing
bingbing
WA
5 posts
WA, 5 posts
16 Feb 2010 10:53pm
I have been riding a Coreban for some time now and loving it! The Rockett is a great all round board as it allows me to surf from 2 foot to 15ft. I even went on a long distance paddle and the board was great! Here is a photo that I found on the net of a guy dropping into a nice looking wave on his Coreban Rockett. I asked the dudes at Coreban about this and they said this guy rode his Rockett all the time! Totally hooked. A couple of days before he was pulling into some serious bombs at the same spot.

So, I would say that the Rockett is a good all round board and perfect for small to even big waves.

BTW, the Coreban paddles are'nt bad either, I am using a Hard core Paddle. Also got it on a package deal.

Lobes
Lobes
885 posts
885 posts
16 Feb 2010 11:09pm
I have the Coreban Hardcore and its a good paddle but pretty stiff in the flex. Can get hard on the upper body for longer paddles. Great for surfing though.

The carbon Naish is a perfectly good paddle. The Werners and Kialoas are a bit lighter but I found it difficult to separate them in performance from the Naish. I'd go for the package you're unlikely to regret it.

I demoed a Pipes paddle on the weekend. Was only a quick demo but blew me away and I'm going to try and get one.
Th0m0
Th0m0
QLD
529 posts
QLD, 529 posts
17 Feb 2010 6:37am
I answered the Rockett review question in "Gear Reviews"
CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
17 Feb 2010 8:17am
I would go with the package. I am glad to have a spare paddle other than my ultra light Carbon for friends, wife etc to use without my fretting about them leaving it in a carpark or a hot car all day.

If you get into it you will undoubtedly want more from a paddle than from the Naish which is strangely made of carbon but heavier than fibreglass or wood. It's an entry level paddle and does a good job of helping people to enter the sport.

Just another point about the Methane and Pipes, these are very small blades and while good for short term acceleration in small surf I found myself extremely frustrated with all of the slippage, this is a personal decision and relates to your technique along with strength but I assure you that proper technique and a bigger blade will without doubt yield a faster result. Even over a short distance. Like from a Shaka Pu'u for example.

If you're feeling pain from paddling, check your technique first.
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