doesn't seem to effect the performance, but should i be concearned about the deck cracking and then sucking in H2O???????????????

it's only 6 months old, and these dents came up after about 10-15 sessions.

ha ha,

gave it a spray with the hose...

92kg

yep it's the 11'6

yep theres a bit of movement..

my main concearn is that if it gets softer, and the dents get bigger, something will have to give

Definately go get it sorted before its too late.

Hi WM,

It is quite normal to get a bit of deck compression under your feet (on any board), especially if you are a heavier rider. This is the same as what you will probably notice on any of your surfboards (assuming you surf). As a heavy rider it is just something you have to come to expect ( I am 95 kg, and dent everything I stand on, windsurfers, kiteboards, surfboards, wakeboards, ....). However, your board is in no danger of taking in water unless you actually break through the deck laminates. The reason Naish use a complete wood laminate is because it spreads the load of any pressure over a much larger area than using conventional laminate foams. So where you would normally see smaller in diametre but deeper more foot shaped dents in the deck (on a conventional board), and possible cracking at the edges, you'll find on a Naish board that if it dents, it will be spread over a much larger area and not as deep, putting much less stress on the laminates. I will bring this to the attention of Naish International and see what they think, but I am sure they will agree with me, I am confident you will not lose any performance due to this.

In General a good idea for heavier riders specifically is to use deck pads at least where you paddle from, because like most things in life, they are not made for the slightly larger human. Keeping mind that nearly every surf craft is designed for the ultimate performance based on an average human's weight and ability.

I will let you know what Naish's comments are.

Regards,

JB

thanks jb

interested to find out what they say.

champcrow said...



Do the dent's annoy you or is a good way of finding your sweet spot easier?

They should make it better...A lower center of gravity...

DJ

Hi, I am 100 kg too, I own a Naish 11' 6" and after a couple of sessions those dents have appeared, too.

I'll let you know what my local Naish dealer says about it.

Please keep us informed, feedback will be much appreciated.

cheers,

Andoni

Hi WM,

Naish have replied to me, and agree with my comment. We believe you have nothing to worry about. It is the same as any surfboard denting, except the wood actually makes it more durable. It is just one of those things us heavy guys have to put up with.

Regards,

JB

Guys
I think these soft spots on the deck are a cause for concern,
have a look at www.boardlady.com. Very good resource for info
on epoxy boards. I don't think this problem will be with naish boards only
as most brands are popped out of the same factory in Thailand (cobra)
Would be interesting to find out what other brands are failing in this way.
Maybe good quality recessed deck pads coming standard on boards is the answer
as some of the big brands seem to be doing or carbon deck patches where you stand.

As boards made this way get their strength from the outer shell any damage to it
has to be a worry. As is the crushing of the soft white foam in the core.

The swaylocks board builders site has lots of good stuff on the pros and cons of the use of veneer in surfboard construction. many believe its fashion over function in surftech boards (they do look good).

It will be interesting to see how the brands react to this with their up coming models. I predict "Carbon Deck Patch" to be a major part of marketing

I don't think the buying public will tolerate "thats what happens to surfboards" or "learn to be lighter on your feet"

This is not ment to be a negative post against Naish (I love many of their water toys) and as i said most boards come out of the same factory but lets hope it is addressed on the next generation of boards. This is a new way of riding waves so every one is still learning.

NEV

Can't say I've noticed these issues on my Naish board or both DJ's boards and the demo board from SHQ. Might have to look a a bit closer. I'd like to think my board is going to last me at least five years, which I'm sure it will.

I'm glad you and others point out these potential shortcomings with boards/paddles etc. Having a forum like this keeps board makers/marketers on their toes.

Jacko, Maybe they have got bigger u just can't tell cuz the grip

Soft spots equals reduced resale and trade in fellas. Sorry but the heavy weight answer doesn't cut it with me. I'm 90kg & 6'4.

Quote from the Naish SUP add "with 30 years of expoxy composite board development ". Why then would it be early days for the industry ??

Just my thoughts.

Deano

hollow. Take core away replace core weight with stronger outer skin .

Hey JB,
What is the new naish pad like? The best ones I have used is the JL pad with teh raised edges. I understand the new naish pad has raised edges?

Whats the RRP?

The Naish Deck pad is great, by far the best I have used. I find some of the deck pads out there aren't really all that grippy, especiall when your doing hard turn and are right back on the tail. I have always previously preferred wax, but the New Naish (camo one) deck pad is awesome, I use it on all my boards, no more waxing! Never thought I'd say that.

They Retail at $179.00 , or are $100.00 if you purchase one with a Naish Board.

JB