hi, generally what would be the best rocker for a shortboard when you go back for surf on um once and a while-when still mainly surfing sups
cheers

dtm said...

Lacey thats a tough one mate really depends how you like to surf on both ya sup and ya shortie?
Well if you ride ya sup like your shortboard or at least try to as much as you can you should really just ride a normal shortie maybe something a little flater and wider than normal, and if you mainly sup you might find it easier to transition between the to, and not be shocked with how the shortie performs.
I no casso likes to mix it up with his fish and i guess thats pretty simliar to a sups surfing lines as than are normaly longer lines which we take .
So maybe something a little flater wider fishy style ?
Or Lacey do what i do and just 100% sup rain hail or shine
Hope anything ive said helps?
Dan

thx's dan, i've done sup pretty much full time, but will do some shortboarding again.
the longer lines of fishy type boards makes sense to me, thats the thing with a normal shorty after sup- you feel like your going everywhere except forward.

i guess the trick is to keep mixing them up if you like to do both and not leave the shorty in he cupboard for months then decide to get on it and expect it to click.
doing both should compliment each other

i surfed coolie yesterday on the shortie hoping for a low key one, but had guys going- hey your on a shorboard or where's your paddle haha
cheers
ps surfing shortboards at crowded pointbreaks is a mugs game

Yeah - go no rocker Lacey. My 5'10" fish is like an ironing board and I don't have any problems transitioning between that and my SUPs. I almost can't ride my 6'4", full rockered, standard shorty anymore.

Unless it's a certain ledging point break at about 6-8 where the Sup is a massive advantage.

Funny, the most fun surf I have had on a Goldie Point was that one with you and Jacko and Lacey at currumbin last October (on SUPs).

Lacey said ,it was a good just to be able to duck dive a set, relax and come up keep paddling. it wasn't the end of the world like it can be on a sup

Oh how much i miss the duck dive....

goatman said...

Unless it's a certain ledging point break at about 6-8 where the Sup is a massive advantage.

Only if you are king of first rock.

goatman said...

Funny, the most fun surf I have had on a Goldie Point was that one with you and Jacko and Lacey at currumbin last October (on SUPs).

That was a fun surf and we were all getting plenty of waves but it was very spread out and we weren't all sitting on a single takeoff spot.

I was thinking more of a SUP surf I had at Ti-Tree during the big swell of the last Festival. Lots of guys all sitting on that one spot out the back where it wedges off the rock. You couldn't sit (stand) with them because there wasn't enough room to spin around and take off. You would also get cleaned up by the big ones and end up VERY close to the rocks or worse. You could sit wide, where there was more space to get a turning run up at them but there would always be someone taking off deep and calling you off it. You could sit inside a bit and go the smaller ones but then you would get cleaned up by all the non-small ones (no duck-diving). You could sit out the back beyond everyone but that would piss everyone off because even if you waited your turn (somehow monitoring the queue without physically being in it) you had to paddle/surf through the pack just as you were taking off - scary for everyone.

I ended up sitting a bit wide and getting the odd massive bomb that everyone else was too deep for or the occasional smaller one that got left by the pack but which I had time to paddle in for (very quickly). I didn't get many however and it was very frustrating.

billboard said...

laceys lane said...

ps surfing shortboards at crowded pointbreaks is a mugs game

And surfing a sup at a crowded pointbreak isn't ?

Hahaha well said billboard. i would rather shortboard a smoking point break if its crowded rather then sup it. Don't care how good u are, performance level just isnt the same.

Yeah, true, crowded point breaks are generally a no go on a SUP. I was thinking of when it is massive and a lot of crew can't paddle into em on shorties cause they are under gunned. Certainly not a Goldy point break.

CMC said...

Agree with posts above about the wider shorties fitting the transition easier. I guess riding such big boards so often teaches you to really apply your strength. Turning a bigger board doesnt seem to be a problem.... The flow you get on SUP you can also miss back on your shorty and a thicker, wider shorty seems to replace some of that.

I find in good waves I feel like I am wasting them on a SUP. Particularly in shorter sharper, faster, shallower conditions. Sure catching them is easier on SUP but as soon as you catch the wave I want rid of all of that board. The benefits of paddling and training is that catching waves on a shorty is no problem anymore. I have never paddled past people before!

We have had waves up until today with wild weather. My SUP hasn't been wet for a while! Riding both just lets you make sure you are on the best board for the day at all times..... I often take both in the car to the beach, quite a few times I have ran in and switched half way through a session if I thought I would have more fun on the other.

My advice is no more than 3 in a row on the stando and you slip straight back on to the shorty.

well put, thx's

dtm new question

What are your thoughts on Blanes hull rippers??

Looks like "up" rails

CMC said...

Agree with posts above about the wider shorties fitting the transition easier. I guess riding such big boards so often teaches you to really apply your strength. Turning a bigger board doesnt seem to be a problem.... The flow you get on SUP you can also miss back on your shorty and a thicker, wider shorty seems to replace some of that.

I find in good waves I feel like I am wasting them on a SUP. Particularly in shorter sharper, faster, shallower conditions. Sure catching them is easier on SUP but as soon as you catch the wave I want rid of all of that board. The benefits of paddling and training is that catching waves on a shorty is no problem anymore. I have never paddled past people before!

We have had waves up until today with wild weather. My SUP hasn't been wet for a while! Riding both just lets you make sure you are on the best board for the day at all times..... I often take both in the car to the beach, quite a few times I have ran in and switched half way through a session if I thought I would have more fun on the other.

My advice is no more than 3 in a row on the stando and you slip straight back on to the shorty.

Pretty much agree entirely. Actually haven' ridden a SUP for weeks-the waves have been too good.

Haven't 'sat down' for 13 years actually and even then it was sometimes 50/50

Matt if you rode one of these babies you might think a little differently.

Yep, 13 years - 1997 was the last year I rode goaties. Been exclusively on shorties since and for the last 18 months SUP.

I'm hearing you on the 'not wanting so much board'. My newy is the first one to come close to that sort of feeling. Even being able to turn vertically up the face seems to be a possibility finally - shame I am so damn old[}:)]

goatman said...

Yep, 13 years - 1997 was the last year I rode goaties. Been exclusively on shorties since and for the last 18 months SUP.

I'm hearing you on the 'not wanting so much board'. My newy is the first one to come close to that sort of feeling. Even being able to turn vertically up the face seems to be a possibility finally - shame I am so damn old[}:)]

does that mean we can call you an 'old goat'

tell ya what, my 8'6 stepper felt real good after a sb session, definately will be mixing the two
cheers