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laceys lane
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27 Aug 2010 12:33pm
]oh my- the speed, the way it gets runners, the way it gets lots and lots of runners, the way you can paddle up wind and fly back home. i'm like a kid in a candy shop
bring on a long skinny dw sup with 2 ama's
cheers


cheers
hux
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27 Aug 2010 12:56pm
laceys lane said...

oh my- the speed, the way it gets runners, the way it get lots and lots of runners, the way you can paddle up wind and fly back home. i'm like a kid in a candy shop
bring on a long skinny dw sup with 2 ama's
cheers


i hear you.i got my self a old oc1.sooo much fun.
CMC
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27 Aug 2010 1:08pm
I been doing more research, my financiers not looking good until end of Sept/Oct so not much I can do until then. Shopping around, may try to get a few demo's in that time also.

I'm liking this one so far.

www.kodak.com/corp/default.htm?sourceId=533754321803&cm_mmc=eMail-_-Share-_-Photos-_-legacy&localeid=en_US&h=1

laceys lane
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27 Aug 2010 4:21pm
CMC said...

I been doing more research, my financiers not looking good until end of Sept/Oct so not much I can do until then. Shopping around, may try to get a few demo's in that time also.

I'm liking this one so far.

www.kodak.com/corp/default.htm?sourceId=533754321803&cm_mmc=eMail-_-Share-_-Photos-_-legacy&localeid=en_US&h=1



only getting a blank page
JonathanC
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27 Aug 2010 7:02pm
That's great Lacey, must admit I've been feeling a bit of an itch in that department after being on Maui for a couple of weeks and doing down winders with mates on OC1's. So fast and just amazing the way they can hunt down a runner from way back.

Is this a completely new thing for you? Wondering what the learning curve is like.

The thing that really blows my mind is that Dave Kalama and some of the other top SUP guys are right up there with the times the OC1's are doing on the Maliko runs.

The speed the good OC1 guys pass me on those runs is just wild, makes you want to take your paddle back and apologise for ever even thinking you could use the bloody thing

Keep us posted, be curious to see if you lose interest in SUP down winding at all.
akhawk
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27 Aug 2010 5:26pm
An oc1 is certainly on my wish list after spending the past 6 months in an oc6. A dedicated downwind sup is also on my wish list I need to find some $'s. Outrigger paddling is a fantastic sport, great training and real fun paddling in a team environment.
laceys lane
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27 Aug 2010 7:51pm
JonathanC said...

That's great Lacey, must admit I've been feeling a bit of an itch in that department after being on Maui for a couple of weeks and doing down winders with mates on OC1's. So fast and just amazing the way they can hunt down a runner from way back.

Is this a completely new thing for you? Wondering what the learning curve is like.

The thing that really blows my mind is that Dave Kalama and some of the other top SUP guys are right up there with the times the OC1's are doing on the Maliko runs.

The speed the good OC1 guys pass me on those runs is just wild, makes you want to take your paddle back and apologise for ever even thinking you could use the bloody thing

Keep us posted, be curious to see if you lose interest in SUP down winding at all.


hi, i got a little paddle on one a few weeks ago- first thing i thought is why aren't i doing this. we run into a lot of oc crew and some do both-oc and sup. travis and danny reckon sup dw ing has made them better oc paddlers

probably a turning point on getting one was heading out on my sup to do an up and downhill run the other week. i was getting smashed, so i turned around,came in, jumped in the car and paddle out from north kirra, thinking what a good plan. but while there was a bit chop to make you paddle hard, you just couldn't get on um. i worked hard, got nothing and had to pay for a taxi back to my car, which i do a lot off. that was it, i'm going to get something i can paddle more often instead of trotting up and down a creek

i still train sup two mornings- it feels like i have 10 legropes hanging of the back and yes, i think i will be on the oc for a bit amount of my time, but i was thinking today, i wouldn't mind jumping on the sup for run, just to see how i'm going and yes standing up does have it own feel. a nice se swell and se or s wind, snapper to burleigh is a sweet run when it's on

the reality is on the goldie,and some people aren't going to like hearing it, there is only so many good days for sup dw winding, oc's will give me more ocean time

the paddling from sup to oc is not proving that hard. you have to twist and reach a lot further than sup, good release is a must and have to get the paddle out in front, otherwise your reward is to keep smacking your knees with the paddle shaft. also you need to keep feet pressure on to drive the board,body - this one i keep lapsing on. i'm told i going well, but i expect to be told i'm doing this and that wrong and i have a lot to learn

the catching of runners and just sitting there or skipping over a few seems so easy and will blow you away, however i paddled with a skier, who oc paddles too and he pushed me to go flatout riding down and over bumps- now thats fast high rate/paddling to do that and i will need to be more cardio fitter if i wont to do well in races in the future. doesn't mean you have to do that sort of stuff to enjoy a oc

there's room for both oc/sup dw i reckon, each will make you better for the other
cheers

i've seen travis do well on a sup v oc1, but even he couldn't hold the oc off

i think maliko would be one of a handful of few of places where that would happen
Al Hunter
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27 Aug 2010 8:11pm
akhawk said...

An oc1 is certainly on my wish list after spending the past 6 months in an oc6. A dedicated downwind sup is also on my wish list I need to find some $'s. Outrigger paddling is a fantastic sport, great training and real fun paddling in a team environment.





And let's not forget how much fun you can get on an OC if you don't want to stick to downwind
akhawk
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27 Aug 2010 6:28pm
Great pic
Hey Lacey, if you're running out of room to store your toys, you can always keep a 16 footer at my place. Then you've already got a board here when you come over for some WA downwinders
laceys lane
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27 Aug 2010 8:41pm
akhawk said...

Great pic
Hey Lacey, if you're running out of room to store your toys, you can always keep a 16 footer at my place. Then you've already got a board here when you come over for some WA downwinders


akhawk, as much as i hated to do it and it was my best dw board to date, i sold the 16' to get the secondhand huricane. still have the 14' rocket. later on i'll get another 16' or something
cheers
CMC
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28 Aug 2010 8:05am
SimonDodd said...

Nice one Lacey! I would love a Pueo one day, if this one would of fitted in my luggage i would of brought it home with me......Bill Pratt's 'Green Zebra'




Hey Simon, Sam Williams has been importing them from Hawaii. $6000 a pop!! That's a lot of $ for the pop eh...
Ngahina
Ngahina
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28 Aug 2010 11:54am
Picked up a Kia Kaha Hiko Canoe the other day.



Had some great feed back from other canoe owners & are just loving the way I can change between SUP & OC.

North
North
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28 Aug 2010 10:01am
Please excuse my ignorance, but what’s the appeal of the OC1's as opposed to a ski? I would've thought that you catch runners better and go faster all on a kayak.

I'm sensing I'm probably going to come off sounding like my mate who keeps asking me why I don't just ride a mal instead of a SUP, but I'l thow it out there anyway.
worrier
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28 Aug 2010 10:52am
"Please excuse my ignorance, but what’s the appeal of the OC1's as opposed to a ski? I would've thought that you catch runners better and go faster all on a kayak".
Im with North, never seen anything like them over here.
W
oliver
oliver
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28 Aug 2010 4:58pm
I want one. Have never seen one in Vic. Just thinking out loud, I'd like Sup Vic to consider getting an OC 4 or OC 6 that we could all chip in for and give it a go in the bay on those gnarly days. Which reminds me - I'd better pay up my membership for this year.
akhawk
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28 Aug 2010 5:28pm
oliver said...

I want one. Have never seen one in Vic. Just thinking out loud, I'd like Sup Vic to consider getting an OC 4 or OC 6 that we could all chip in for and give it a go in the bay on those gnarly days. Which reminds me - I'd better pay up my membership for this year.


Hey Oliver, check out the aus outrigger website http://www.ausoutrigger.com/index.php
There is a vic zone section where I'm sure you could find a local club to check out. Its great fun paddling in an oc6 and really helps the stand up paddling. The stroke rate is much quicker than sup so is also a great cardio workout. I got in touch with a local club here in Perth and they were more than happy to take me out for a paddle with them. After my first training session I found myself booked in for my first regatta and I've loved every minute of it since.
I now want to get into oc1 paddling but am worried I'll love it too much and and then have some tough decisions to make about what toys to have.
Gorgo
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28 Aug 2010 7:35pm
I too could not see the picture but I guess we're talking about on oc1 like this...

akhawk
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28 Aug 2010 5:37pm
Looks fast
laceys lane
laceys lane
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28 Aug 2010 8:02pm
that's the one.i did about 22k's with another paddler. cmc rang me at 10.34, another 3 to 4 minutes before i got going, 1 minute or so rest at snapper, stretched my self on the canoe in front of the alley, sat for a bit in the creek, then went to the car- time 12.18. so UP HILL and down hill which wasn't good -sub 5min k's to give an idea
cheers
ps hopped on cmc 17 for a touch, while it felt slow after the oc1, i could really feel where and what i needed to do with the paddle- getting the sweet spot
laceys lane
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28 Aug 2010 8:31pm
Ngahina said...

Picked up a Kia Kaha Hiko Canoe the other day.



Had some great feed back from other canoe owners & are just loving the way I can change between SUP & OC.




i talked to woogie about getting the other model, but i just couldn't afford.
he's a good bloke to talk about getting an oci
cheers
62mac
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28 Aug 2010 6:45pm
Can someone tell me where that photo was taken,longboarders in the background with the long retaining wall.

Lacey,when ordering a oc1 does the manufacture take body weight into account?
I've always wanted one,I can see a new forum section coming
laceys lane
laceys lane
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28 Aug 2010 9:01pm
62mac said...

Can someone tell me where that photo was taken,longboarders in the background with the long retaining wall.

Lacey,when ordering a oc1 does the manufacture take body weight into account?
I've always wanted one,I can see a new forum section coming


i'm a novice here, but from what i gather the huricane is for a bloke of about my weight 75 to 80 kg's ideally, but big danny paddles one. i believe the huricane has/ or is being up graded after a long time staying the same. i read its a great upwind, medium conditions, but will do the bigger stuff the pueo is suppose to be a bigger blokes canoe- big conditions canoe, but does flat really well too. if i have that wrong some one with more expertise please join in this thread

seems the import v local thing is the same as sups
cheers
funny, i was thinking about that this morning - a new forum- maybe 'sup/oc'
oliver
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28 Aug 2010 7:04pm
Gorgo said...

I too could not see the picture but I guess we're talking about on oc1 like this...




Looks unreal. Probably a bit a like a fish out of water in the pic - I could imagine it's pretty complicated to pull on and off the roof of your car and carry to the beach. Just out of interest is the outrigger bit detachable.

The advantage of sup is the simplicity.
62mac
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28 Aug 2010 7:07pm
True Oliver,however I live on water so it would just sit on the pontoon,easy as
CMC
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28 Aug 2010 9:10pm
62mac said...

Can someone tell me where that photo was taken,longboarders in the background with the long retaining wall.

Lacey,when ordering a oc1 does the manufacture take body weight into account?
I've always wanted one,I can see a new forum section coming


I reckon you're right Mac. It's just the start (again) of OC1 in Aust which has already had its first boom with outrigger paddlers but we probably all missed it, I know I did.

I took a similar path to Hawkey, surfed SUP for a few years and then wanted to learn how to paddle so went for a paddle at a club in the 6 man just to try it. Before I knew it I was training for my first race. I knew after a few paddles in the ocean I needed to be able to do this more so a solo option was the go.

I couldnt decide to go SUP or OC1 then, I went SUP. Now I'm getting a OC1 also with the help of my biggest fan (Mum she also paddles outrigger and has for 10 or so years) so I'll have both.

I paddled Laceys Hurricane today and the speed is amazing, booked to demo a few canoes next week, with luck be on the water very soon.
62mac
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28 Aug 2010 7:22pm
Yes I hear you CMC, I tried the dragon boat thing a few years ago and then asked at my local surf store who and where can I get a oc1,it all seamed too hard at the time so I flagged it,I have seen this guy paddling one on my way to work in the same waterway as me a few weeks ago and started thinking about it again.

Longboard,sup and a oc1,a toy for every occasionsounds good to me

You guy's would have seen that big Hawaiian guy around Coolie who has a yellow oc2
laceys lane
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28 Aug 2010 9:30pm
oliver said...

Gorgo said...

I too could not see the picture but I guess we're talking about on oc1 like this...




Looks unreal. Probably a bit a like a fish out of water in the pic - I could imagine it's pretty complicated to pull on and off the roof of your car and carry to the beach. Just out of interest is the outrigger bit detachable.

The advantage of sup is the simplicity.


yeah oliver, it comes apart. different settings ama- the outrigger bit,up and down, front and back, in and out. they need to be washed down too, just brought a cheapo plastic pumpup pressure sprayer
cheers
laceys lane
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28 Aug 2010 10:05pm
62mac said...

Yes I hear you CMC, I tried the dragon boat thing a few years ago and then asked at my local surf store who and where can I get a oc1,it all seamed too hard at the time so I flagged it,I have seen this guy paddling one on my way to work in the same waterway as me a few weeks ago and started thinking about it again.

Longboard,sup and a oc1,a toy for every occasionsounds good to me

You guy's would have seen that big Hawaiian guy around Coolie who has a yellow oc2

i know him mac, he does pyshio type stuff at coolie. he brought that 14' surfboard from dale second hand. he has had it painted the same as his canoe. sups on it in the currumbin ck from time to time
cheers

Ngahina
Ngahina
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29 Aug 2010 9:09am
North said...

Please excuse my ignorance, but what’s the appeal of the OC1's as opposed to a ski? I would've thought that you catch runners better and go faster all on a kayak.

I'm sensing I'm probably going to come off sounding like my mate who keeps asking me why I don't just ride a mal instead of a SUP, but I'l thow it out there anyway.


Yip Ski is faster also harder to master.

As for the OC1 it is a single blade so transferring your technique over to the SUP works better. Ski's are great for your fitness, as you can rate up a lot higher than you would on a OC1. I know of a lot of people who do all and all for different reasons.

The photo of the Hiko is take on Kauai at Kalapaki.

www.ocpaddler.com/forum/2010/new_hiko_canoe_available_demo

Some of the Write up on different OC1 Canoes

"First off, let me say that i'm not an elite paddler or even a racer. i just like to paddle, and we'll leave it at that. i have owned many boats, and i just tried the Hiko. the boat is unreal. during this calender year of 2010, i have owned a pueo and a scorpius xm. recently, i have sold the pueo and currently ride a xm. i had the opportunity to time trial all these boats on the same course, and from personal experience, i have to say, for me, I had the fastest time on a Hiko. the course is a flat water course, and i was very impressed at the glide of the Hiko. similar to a pueo, but to me, is seemed to run a little better, felt a little smoother, and the seating is more comfortable. now, i say this because i'm not a small guy, i weigh around 210lbs. conditions of the course that i rode typically was the same, flat and no wind. its in a harbor/slash river type area, and the first boat i rode was the pueo, 50 mins, scorpius xm 48 mins, wainui 45 mins, and hiko 44 min. i figured i must have miss timed myself on the pueo, so i tried it out again, and still 49 min. now i'm not saying the Hiko is the best boat out there, this is just my personal time trial i did on 5 consecutive days on the same course. for me i had the fastest time on the Hiko. also, for those who say that the Hiko is for small to med surf and the wainui is for larger days, i say, try out the Hiko on a day that its nuking out there, and hold on. i did a kalapaki to poipu run and the boats surfs crazy in all conditions. it felt very loose and had the ability to run and jump from one wave to the next without much effort. let it be known that the waves at this time were stacking up close to one another. it did dive a litte, but as soon as you think your going to pearl, it jumps up and just goes. for me, the pueo tracked right alot, and i had a hard time surfing out to the left, the Hiko had no problem with this, and i was able to go where ever the waves seemed to be. so for me that was my experience with the Hiko, experience it for yourself."

Contact Woogie for a demo

boarder paul
boarder paul
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29 Aug 2010 8:29am
I see the one here and there in nz but it is a lot smaller .. Like half the size
Not sure what it is but look fun on a flat day, No room to keep one or i may have got one.

laceys lane
laceys lane
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29 Aug 2010 5:18pm
did some reasonable ocean stuff today(moved the ama out a bit- makes a difference). got spat off once- um there are 2 pedals and it's not self centre ing. at speed the pedals ae very touchy, i would liken it to gp racing car with the steering and 'grip'.also learning about leaning back at the right time too.

you look at this bump in front that looks along way off, then you start dropping down toward it, the canoe is going real fast now, better lean back as it's getting steep. i'm swerving off too the left, i just tap the right pedal, oh s### too much , back on the left quick. i'm paddling for these runners and playing racing car driver with the steering at the same time.
it's very addictive for sure
cheers
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