Yes big at the front,also had to work my simon andersons to get them in,but not the psh's go figure.

Piros said...

Yeah sometimes the boxes push in on installation , with Quad sets you will notice the larger fins are single foil (flat in the inside) the rears are double foiled curved both sided like a single fin. It's all about hydrodyamics

yeah that and also how da water goes around em too

Piros said...

Yeah sometimes the boxes push in on installation , with Quad sets you will notice the larger fins are single foil (flat in the inside) the rears are double foiled curved both sided like a single fin. It's all about hydrodyamics

As he said...
The larger on the front ,smaller at the back and yes they do need a bit of TLC when putting them in.

A few of us with PSH's use these fins and love em.
Pity they are so expensive.

Waz

While advice is being given I'd like any recommendations for the Quad set up on a 9'6" McTav. I have the standard M5's which just skate out on me if I don't run them as a five fin set up or in Thruster mode. I weigh 98 kegs and am 185 cm so when I crank a bottom turn I tend to put a fair bit of pressure on those little babies. Any ideas would be most welcome. Cheers compadres.

Oh, you mean like become a well balanced surfer? Hey I might try that!! Thanks for the advice Piros. Lucky you're not reffering to mental application as I've got no hope of that according to 'she who must obeyed.....NOW!!' By the way I appreciate all your excellent work.

Thanks Thomo!!! When I see them on the board like that I can see that whatever I've got are about 1/3 maybe 1/4 of their size, hence the need for the 9" fluid drive centre fin, which stiffens it up too much IMO. I think I'll try the GMB 5 set. Either that or wait until next spring and get a 10'5'' wide point. A bit easier on the Canal Stenosis!! (sore back). Cheers for the advice and pics of your set up.

Amen to that JB!! Thanks for the advice. Guess I'll stick with what I've got until my annual upgrade. Either the 8'10" or 10'5" Starboard Wide point, Coupled with the red 12.6 Fanatic. I'll just have to remortgage the house I guess!! Ohhhh S--T!! That's right I'm married with four kids. Damn, Damn, Damn. Nice to dream though.

Does anybody know where I can buy an individual Future Fin? I've lost my back fin from a PSH quad set. Thanks in advance of any suggestions.

Wow that was quick Andrew. It's the right side looking down the bottom of board from fins to nose. If you can help you would be a lifesaver.

JB said...

Jasdeking,

99% sure, you won't recognize your board. The large trailer small truster set up is fine for cruising, but you large trailer is pretty draggy, and those little thrusters aren't giving you much drive. So it will depend on your style of surfing, but if you want to get ahead of the wave driving from her beautiful curves, then change your fins now! But if you enjoy cruising in the corner, the original setup will fell safer and probably more stable.

Changing your fins to a more thruster'd up setup will make your board more responsive under your feet, increase acceleration (most of the time), tighten your turning arc and make your board surf like its a few inches shorter.

Please note, this is a generalization. Some fins are just crap and should only be used for removing dog poo from driveways. But if you experiment, you will give your board a whole other life.

JB

thanks jb
well put them in.... hmm
different not sure may need to go again ...... found less stability yeh but not too bad but couldn't get a feel for the turn
probably just me :)
but appreciate the advise
j

the mrtfx is my main fin in the front
in most conditions. in the back if its soft beachies
i use small side fins eg k 2.1 my fav
if its chunky i use centre fins in the back.

Interesting. The 2 main rules with fin sizing are the heavier the surfer and the wider the tail the bigger the fins required. This is not anecdotal, most fin companies will tell you this. On a shortboard you use large fins (m7) on fishy type boards and small fins (m3) on guns. The reason relates to surface area in the tail and distance between fins.

People use shortboard fins and somehow get them to work but to me they always feel slow, doughy and unsure on rail. I often wondered if that is why many people surf so flat, they simply don't have enough fin to hold the board on it's rail so they have no choice.

I have also heard people say they think big fins make a board stiff, for me anyway big fins means speed and nothing makes a board looser than going fast, also havin the security of having your board feeling locked onto it's rail encourages you to put it there and push as hard as you can.

Just my opinion anyway. Try as many as you can and work out what feels good to you, perhaps try some bigger fins also, you may be surprised how much it brings your board to life.

Hey LouD,

Was mainly referring to Tri's, but same mentality goes for quad. Actually I find I need to run bigger trailers in a quad set up. But personally I find the Simon Anderson Large quads a great starting point for SUP. When I have toyed with smaller trailers I find the board looses something. But I'm not a fan of Quads, so it could be more a style thing.

JB

Thanks JB
Anyone know if there is such a thing as a FCS to Futures Conversion gadget. Im sure I have heard this mentioned before somewhere. Have heaps of FCS around and have a future board.

Also why are futures so expensive in Australia. The aussie dollar is now more valuable than US dollar and has been at least equvalent for a while and yet they are more than double the US price here.