My take on Chicken winging is that it can happen with both short and long paddles...Maybe moreso with longer paddles.

You can bring the paddle out and forward two ways...

1..Lock the lower arm and swing the top arm to release the paddle (chicken wing)

2..Keep the upper hand more still and swing the lower arm out to release the paddle.

Because I pretty much lock my lower arm as I swing through the stroke (while pushing with the top arm) it easy to make the top arm do the work releasing the paddle and continue to just swing the lower arm both forward and back.

I recently saw footage of Dave Kalama chicken winging it and the end of a race but I think it was him just tired and loosing form.

Let's hope Dave will be here for the Mambo and I'll ask him about it..But then he's such a lay back sorta guy he'll probable say "geez I don't know what I do..I just paddle"

DJ

So chicken wingen is the right way, feels right to me. I have never paddled an ocean canoe, I have done plenty of white water rafting and canoeing.

Rod

Bottom arm

Oh...I'm talkin' top arm..

DJ

This is a good shot of "chicken winging" in outrigger paddling. Particularly Seat 1. Notice the angle or "feather" of the blade. (Too much in this instance). Notice her left (her left your right) elbow "chicken winging". I'm pretty sure there is a SLIGHT "feathering of the blade" upon exit in SUP. NO WHERE near as severe as this though. Just wanted to show you David what I mean when referring to outriggers.

The swells up again here at Coffs, I'm going for a surf after I drop the kids off at school. I'll try and remember to really study what I personally do when paddling and let you know later.

The swell should be on the Goldy later today, BBays swell bout is still not at 3mtr
Rod

Hey Sue..Just wondering..Do you think your Outrigging experience helps any with SUP..Do you find that you bend more from the wait as you stroke?

Also..Are you still getting a custom 14' P'trator or one of the new cheaper 16'ers..

DJ

Just to be absolutely clear, "Chicken Winging" is talking about excessive bending of the elbows. Is that correct?

I am more of a "rowlock" paddler where I keep the lower arm fairly straight and do most of the pushing with the upper arm. The upper arm does a bit of a circle and the lower arm just goes up and down.

I like to keep everything quiet and gentle and stand fairly straight up. I get a sore lower back if I dig in too hard.

When paddling for waves I start off in the upright stance then as the wave stands ups all bets are off and I bend down and dig in and go hard.

Hey Sue,
How you doing?

Good to see you on the site.

Read my post in the forum titled "Who wants to get fit".

I gave a little bit of technique advice to help members enjoy and improve their paddling stroke.
Just my 2 cents worth from all those years of paddling/coaching outriggers.

Wazza

Sue... you left out these types of paddlers: www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=41072

Here's 2.5 minutes you will never get back, these types of people can't paddle, have no taste in music and can't fricken spell - you've been warned

I hope he never finds out about the casso sucker cam

I don't know about my form in paddleing, but I have tried to study my action over the three last surfs. I was to tired last night after two surfs to log on.

What I do is start with my top hand near my nose and push down then pull with my bottom hand, my top hand then circles down and out away from my body which pulls feathers the blade out of the water. The blade exits the water at the end of the spring of the shaft. My elbows always stick out both top and bottom hand. When I tried to stop the top elbow sticking out by keeping it tighter to the body, the wetty chaffed my underarm. So I stopped that and went back to my usual style. This is what I call my cruising stroke.

When I am power stroking in an upright position, mainly to get out in time for a set, I don't seem to stick out my elbows so much. I also bend my knees and tense my and twist torso and bend forward, It all seems pretty natural to me now and I never think of what or how I paddle when I'm surfing.

The other type of power stroke is when I'm chasing down a wave, this is done usually off one side only, depending if I'm paddling on the right or the left. I use a lot of knee bend, push and pull with both hands and lean forward, but no torso twist, but plenty of abs tension. This style is when I'm really chasing a wave.

All food for thought.

Rod