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Whopper vs Widepoint

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Created by Yamba4 > 9 months ago, 22 Feb 2017
Yamba4
NSW, 26 posts
22 Feb 2017 1:02PM
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I am a slightly better than beginner paddler, been at it for a few months. Been in small surf a dozen or so times on a Starboard Drive 10'6 by 30 wide.
Looking at something more surf oriented and bit more stable, either Starboard Whopper junior or Widepoint. Same length, Whopper bit more volume and one inch wider.
Any views or comments greatly appreciated.
I'm 63 years old haven't surfed for a long time but not going too bad. Having fun!

Yamba4

FRP
504 posts
22 Feb 2017 12:17PM
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Hi Yamba4

i have owned and surfed both the whopper 10' and widepoint 9'5". I found the widepoint a better board for surf that worked well in small waves as well as bigger waves. Much more options for fin setup on the widepoint also, single fin, thruster or quad. This from the perspective of a 61 year old 70kg learner. Try to demo both to see what works best for you. Buy used if you can as you may find you want a bit smaller board in a short time.

Cheers

Bob

Yamba4
NSW, 26 posts
22 Feb 2017 5:15PM
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Thanks Bob,
I was able to try a Widepoint carbon 9'6" early on in small waves. It felt good, stable and quite loose for its size. Also had nice lines plenty of nose lift. Appreciate your comments. I weigh 77 kg, everyone says go as small as you can (8'8" etc) don't quite get the reasoning for this yet.
cheers
Greg

BrisKites
QLD, 1293 posts
22 Feb 2017 8:06PM
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Yamba4 said..
Thanks Bob,
I was able to try a Widepoint carbon 9'6" early on in small waves. It felt good, stable and quite loose for its size. Also had nice lines plenty of nose lift. Appreciate your comments. I weigh 77 kg, everyone says go as small as you can (8'8" etc) don't quite get the reasoning for this yet.
cheers
Greg


Probably don't worry too much about what others say you should be on and go with what you feel comfortable. Going too short early usually isn't a great move. Either board will work for you but at your weight the Widepoint will offer more for you down the track.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
22 Feb 2017 11:43PM
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As others have said, Wide Point is a bit more progressive and suited to more adventurous conditions so if you are comfortable on it, then go for it. However, don't expect to enjoy casual paddles on flat water on a Wide Point. If that is part of your plan, then the junior Whopper would be a better all round option.

Also agree with BrisKites - the advice to go as small as you can is not true for everyone and for many people, the opposite is becoming increasingly true.

Slab
1125 posts
22 Feb 2017 9:02PM
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Just chipping in....the Drive itself is a great board. So much you can use it for....but if you want shorter and wider then a widepoint makes sense if Starboard is your thing.

boundeast
124 posts
23 Feb 2017 1:08AM
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i say go small--you have a big board already, for flatwater/LB style--at your weight, youll be yearning for smaller than a 9'6" WP very quickly--especially if your surfed when younger and have started to get the hang--your progression will be fast from here

i weigh 90kg at 6'2" and my 9'6" WP began gathering dust soon after i got it--went, at that stage, to an 8'11" (143 ltr) fanatic all-wave ltd (keep that board down in fl for trips to visit my old dad--great board but a bit too much. where the airborn is just right if surf is other than perfect)--i now ride (my go to board for the erratic conditions i face in ne us) a starby 8'8" airborn blue carbon at 123 ltrs--the airborne is cut of same cloth as the widepoints but thinner--only 3.7 inches vs mid-4's for most boards this size

the push to go short is dubious for many, but for you, at your weight, with past and now current experience, go much smaller than 9'6" for a surf sup

Yamba4
NSW, 26 posts
23 Feb 2017 4:39PM
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Thanks heaps everyone, incredible feedback! The varied opinions were extremely interesting.
Fully understand what everyone thought, agree with Slab re the Drive - I intend to keep for flat water, fat waves and social paddles.
I guess at the end of the day it comes down to what I feel comfy with in the surf and what my expectations are at 63 (bugger!!)
Obviously the smaller the board the less you are going to be knocked around in the white water.
Great forum and great sport, enjoying the learning curve!
Happy paddling
Greg

JonathanC
VIC, 1024 posts
23 Feb 2017 8:47PM
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G'day Yamba, I've got the 9'5" Whopper and I love it. Really bought it as a fun family board to get kids and friends sup surfing but find myself taking it out on big choppy windy days and having an absolute blast. I'm only 65kg but once you really move your weight onto the rail the way the thing turns astonishes me. It gets into waves super early, doesn't pearl and is just such a great platform to give you confidence, learn to cross step etc etc. At my weight the wide point boards just never seemed to work for me, my usual board is the 7'7 Pro so vast difference in volume.

Agree about keeping the Drive, bought one of the really early ones with the black and white camo deck grip and the lower nose rocker and often wish I'd just hung onto it. The Drive is such a flexible board, and honestly you would have to be a really good surfer to outgrow it, responds very well to fin changes too, I like that style of board with a small thruster set, they seem to come alive, but equally if nose riding was your thing I'm sure a big single fin would go well.

Great thing about the Whopper boards is that if you want to sell them they are super easy to move on and hold their value well, I just got the cheapest construction and apart from being a little heavy lugging it to the beach (well in contrast to a carbon 7'7!) it a fantastic board. I'm a bit of a fan of making your life simple, if you can largely take away the stability issues you will quickly get your take offs sorted and catch heaps more waves, the 9'5 Whopper can even be surfed quite happily from standing a fair way forward but really comes alive if you can get you back foot right back and learn to move that back foot across the board to get weight over the relatively fine rail.

Yamba4
NSW, 26 posts
23 Feb 2017 10:04PM
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G'day to you Jonathan. Great post, really enjoyed and appreciated all your comments, they all make good sense. I agree if you are feeling stable you can concentrate more on other things like getting your technique right. You certainly have two different boards there, one extreme to the other nearly.
I feel that I need a stable platform for a while to sort out some issues before I move forward. Hard to do that when all your concentration and effort is going into staying upright!
Thanks again great post. Another suggestion was a similar size board the Sunova Flow at 9'6 *33
cheers Greg



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