When would you choose a 12'6 over a 14 footer?

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Scott79
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14 Nov 2013 11:14am
Guys,
Am still looking to make a start by getting a 14 footer, so definitely new to dw'ing etc, so forgive me if the answer is obvious.....

Aside from dedicated race categories, when would you choose a 12'6 over a 14 footer?
The only time I can imagine is in heavy surf type conditions?

Thanks,
Scott.
petedorries
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14 Nov 2013 11:44am
If you are going to dedicate your self to marathons, D/W's etc go a 14' er. Most races aren't Tech races. Why go in and out thru the surf if you dont have to. And 14' is better for flat water, into the wind and D/Wing anyway.

Pete
DavidJohn
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14 Nov 2013 1:14pm
Scott79 said..

Guys,
Am still looking to make a start by getting a 14 footer, so definitely new to dw'ing etc, so forgive me if the answer is obvious.....

Aside from dedicated race categories, when would you choose a 12'6 over a 14 footer?
The only time I can imagine is in heavy surf type conditions?

Thanks,
Scott.


How heavy are you?

DJ
hilly
hilly
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14 Nov 2013 10:16am
Scott79 said..

Guys,
Am still looking to make a start by getting a 14 footer, so definitely new to dw'ing etc, so forgive me if the answer is obvious.....

Aside from dedicated race categories, when would you choose a 12'6 over a 14 footer?
The only time I can imagine is in heavy surf type conditions?

Thanks,
Scott.



Never But I am 110kg
Scott79
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14 Nov 2013 12:25pm
DavidJohn said..


Scott79 said..

Guys,
Am still looking to make a start by getting a 14 footer, so definitely new to dw'ing etc, so forgive me if the answer is obvious.....

Aside from dedicated race categories, when would you choose a 12'6 over a 14 footer?
The only time I can imagine is in heavy surf type conditions?

Thanks,
Scott.



How heavy are you?

DJ


83 kgs.
teatrea
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14 Nov 2013 1:38pm
I Like 14,s over 12,6 , but 12,6 is way better in the surf and possibly not far behind 14 in downwind.
Maxeeboy
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14 Nov 2013 11:43am
I'm 83 kilos & had 4 sessions on my new 2014 Fanatic Falcon Carbon 14???0??? ?? 24.75???
Love the board, been on the ocean once with windy & choppy conditions& the river 3 times to date.
6 months SUP experience in general & my previous board was a Coreban Dart 14' x 29"
Currently finding the less width challenging, however I'm up for it & staying on it :-)
Also booked in for 2 of your Perth sessions Pete, can't wait
Chris
Maxeeboy
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14 Nov 2013 11:44am
I'm 83 kilos & had 4 sessions on my new 2014 Fanatic Falcon Carbon 14' x 24.75"
Love the board & bought if for mainly flat water racing & DW during the summer once I get my skill set up.
Been on the ocean once with windy & choppy conditions & the river 3 times to date.
6 months SUP experience in general & my previous board was a Coreban Dart 14' x 29"
Currently finding the less width challenging, however I'm up for it & staying on it :-)
Also booked in for 2 of your Perth sessions Pete, can't wait
Chris
Scott79
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14 Nov 2013 2:04pm
Interesting TeaTree, that is probably what I expected to be the case - for an average Joe anyway, no doubt the more advanced the paddler the greater the margin between the 12'6 and 14.

Sounds good Chris, nice choice of board by the sound of things. Due to budget constraints I am probably looking for the 2013 model, probably 27.5" for a starting point, and hopefully progress from there.

Cheers,
Scott.
62mac
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14 Nov 2013 12:05pm
Every day of the week
PTWoody
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14 Nov 2013 3:05pm
When would I choose a 12'6" over a 14'?




petedorries
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14 Nov 2013 3:31pm
Is that what I have to look forward to tomorrow?
HumanCartoon
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14 Nov 2013 4:56pm
petedorries said..

Is that what I have to look forward to tomorrow?


Nah Pete, forecast tomorrow is for a steamy 15 degrees but there should be a nice 25 knots or so sea breeze coming up from Western Tassie in the afternoon to make sure we don't overcook.
teatrea
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14 Nov 2013 6:29pm
Scott79 said..
Interesting TeaTree, that is probably what I expected to be the case - for an average Joe anyway, no doubt the more advanced the paddler the greater the margin between the 12'6 and 14.

Sounds good Chris, nice choice of board by the sound of things. Due to budget constraints I am probably looking for the 2013 model, probably 27.5" for a starting point, and hopefully progress from there.

Cheers,Scott.


Dont forget the paddle , earlier i went in and traded my QB 100 for a fanatic paddle and they are chalk and cheeese.The QB was way to big a surface area for me and i found myself tiring very quickly using it , went for a local bridge to bridge run with my new paddle and smashed my best timeI now think smaller blade area is the go or at least longer blade area is the go , it was heaps lighter too and my shoulders which usually always hurt untill i warm right up , where fine too. So my advice would be skimp on the board if you have too but invest in a good paddle
laceys lane
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14 Nov 2013 6:51pm
Here,s my take for what its worth. at 83 kg-14'. At 70kg- loving 12'6s for every thing. Those small fanatic inegra paddles are the sh1t
AndyR
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14 Nov 2013 8:21pm
Sorry to hijack the thread.. What is it that everyone is raving about these new inegra fanatic paddles.. I'm tossing up spending the money on the top end probably a Ke nalu but am I wasting my money are these inegras that good?

On the board size I agree lighter guys 12"6 are flying.. I'm 90 kg and feel sluggish on them 14 for heavier guys for an all round use board distance and training board
teatrea
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14 Nov 2013 8:42pm
AndyR said..

Sorry to hijack the thread.. What is it that everyone is raving about these new inegra fanatic paddles.. I'm tossing up spending the money on the top end probably a Ke nalu but am I wasting my money are these inegras that good?

On the board size I agree lighter guys 12"6 are flying.. I'm 90 kg and feel sluggish on them 14 for heavier guys for an all round use board distance and training board



Im not a brand whore mate , but i am stoked with this paddle after one session with it , havent tried the new qb slim jim but that looks good to me also.I found with the QB 100 awesome for power but too much for prolonged sessions , i also think the shaft needs some good flex.Have never tried a Ke Nalu but Im stoked with the new fanatic paddle.if it works it works , and it works for me , very comfortable. When you you look at C1 canoe racing or K1 or surf ski blades they dont have a lot of surface area but are long and narrow. I think this is the go for racing , the tear drop shape for surfing.
AndyR
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14 Nov 2013 8:56pm
Thanks for the info what size blade did you go with the 8 or the small one ?
laceys lane
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14 Nov 2013 9:04pm
AndyR said..

Sorry to hijack the thread.. What is it that everyone is raving about these new inegra fanatic paddles.. I'm tossing up spending the money on the top end probably a Ke nalu but am I wasting my money are these inegras that good?

On the board size I agree lighter guys 12"6 are flying.. I'm 90 kg and feel sluggish on them 14 for heavier guys for an all round use board distance and training board



i've been red thumbed above, but i'm just giving my take on it being 80 something k's and struggling on 12'6 s to 70 k's and really liking them. i've been on both sides so to speak

imo to be competitive, for 'most' people, at 80 plus k's a 14' er is the go
DavidJohn
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14 Nov 2013 10:15pm
laceys lane said..


imo to be competitive, for 'most' people, at 80 plus k's a 14' er is the go[:)



I agree.. but not just to be competitive.. to also be comfortable ..

DJ
teatrea
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14 Nov 2013 9:19pm
AndyR said..

Thanks for the info what size blade did you go with the 8 or the small one ?


The 7.5 i think.If you where racing over a short distance a bigger blade is the go , but for bop and distance stuff a smaller surface area is the go
62mac
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14 Nov 2013 7:25pm
I've got the 8 inch

When I purchased it I was also told it was a waist on me
AndyR
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14 Nov 2013 9:31pm
In what way do you mean a waist Mac? To big to small ?
The Kenalu is 95inchs so 5 more than the small fanatic . I'm coming from a 100inch which I felt too big.. The difference in these two blade shapes really are very different also.
Trying the Kenalu tomorrow.. Will try an inegra if possible to compare
laceys lane
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14 Nov 2013 9:37pm
teatrea said..

AndyR said..

Thanks for the info what size blade did you go with the 8 or the small one ?


The 7.5 i think.If you where racing over a short distance a bigger blade is the go , but for bop and distance stuff a smaller surface area is the go



7.25 mate. i struggled to even go back to even the 8" version and other carbon paddles feel like a crowbar now
AndyR
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14 Nov 2013 9:44pm
Cheers gotta try one now!
62mac
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14 Nov 2013 8:02pm
AndyR said..

In what way do you mean a waist Mac?



haha my lack of talenttrue story

Scott79
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14 Nov 2013 10:42pm
Another thing on the Christmas list...
Are you guys using the adjustable or fixed version of the inegra?

Thanks,
Scott.
62mac
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15 Nov 2013 3:34am
Fixed mate I'm a selfish bastard
Scott79
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15 Nov 2013 8:32am
62mac said..

Fixed mate I'm a selfish bastard


ha, yeah mate, nothing like stamping it as your own. I wouldn't mind trying a decent adjustable at some stage, there are days in the surf when I wonder if I would be better off a couple of inches shorter. And my paddle too.

Scott.
PTWoody
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15 Nov 2013 10:23am
Scott79 said..

62mac said..

Fixed mate I'm a selfish bastard


ha, yeah mate, nothing like stamping it as your own. I wouldn't mind trying a decent adjustable at some stage, there are days in the surf when I wonder if I would be better off a couple of inches shorter. And my paddle too.

Scott.


I'm sure I'll cop the brand pimp red thumb here but the Starboard 3 piece adjustable made from their premium carbon construction is ridiculously light for an adjustable and is a perfect travel paddle - you could take it as carry on luggage. It's available in either the Enduro tear drop shape or the High Aspect race shape blade.
AndyR
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15 Nov 2013 10:20am
Haha someone did red thumb that. Surley a gee up.
I actually checked the new starboard paddles out yesterday.. These are so well priced and look bullet proof. Wouldn't be a bad option
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