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mikeman
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28 Sep 2013 1:48pm
I often get asked what’s in the backpack that I always carry with me on ocean paddles.

The backpack itself is pretty comfortable to wear and I hardly notice wearing it anymore. I don’t wear a separate pfd as I have the backpack bladder to use for additional floatation. Everyone should always use a good legrope, which will be the primary source of floatation in an emergency.

As more people take up down wind paddling it's important to encourage everyone to be safety focussed.










VHF Radio
First Aid Kit
Whistle
EPIRB




String
Reflective Mirror





Duck Tape
Swimming Goggles
Sun Screen
Flare Kit
Stockings





First Aid Kit:

Bandages
Tourniquet
Wound Dressing
Latex Gloves
Stingose
Emergency Bag





Pain Killer
Antihistamine
Aspirin
Anti Inflammatory






If anyone is interested to know why I carry anything in particular feel free to ask.

Stay safe out there - Mike

NNSUP
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28 Sep 2013 2:22pm
That's nearly more than AA and I used to carry when we mountain biked the high alps trails between NSW & Vic.

Good idea to post this with so many people starting to DW. One of the Sydney race series is now requiring us to paddle with a flare. Considering we paddle so far off shore I'm going to carry this on my regular down winders.

We lost one of Sydney's top wave sailors just on dusk many years ago. He could see the choppers looking for him and it would have been easier to find him if he'd had a flare. It was a scary few hours.

I'll at least be carrying a flare, mobile and whistle as a minimum.
DavidJohn
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28 Sep 2013 2:40pm
I'm going to buy myself one of the new lazer flares.

DJ
JasonProsser
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28 Sep 2013 4:50pm
Mike, I've got to ask, as I can see very good reasons for every item except the stockings. They're not fishnets, so I'm guessing they are not for food catching duties. Intrigued.
Otherwise an excellent post. There should be more stuff like this.
mikeman
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28 Sep 2013 8:06pm
JasonProsser said..

Mike, I've got to ask, as I can see very good reasons for every item except the stockings. They're not fishnets, so I'm guessing they are not for food catching duties. Intrigued.
Otherwise an excellent post. There should be more stuff like this.


Ha Ha, well spotted Jason. Yes, there is no misprint here - they are an important part of my kit.

Other than making me look and feel good on the water they are a really good item for handling blue bottles and stingers. If you have ever been on a paddle and had to go through a patch of bluebottles you will know what they can do. The stockings act like a stinger suit for your feet/legs, protecting you from the venom. Your feet are usually exposed on a SUP, even if you wear compression long pants. Other materials that would work are lycra, nylon and spandex.
RainWaves
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Hi Mike,
greetings from Alaska, and thanks for sharing this with us. I keep a signal mirror and whistle in one of the pockets in my Camelbak (along with my triple-bagged cell phone), but really like the compact flare kit you have in yours. I'll have to look around and see if I can find something similar around here. Looking at all of your stuff certainly gives one thoughts about how prepared a person actually is!

Sunscreen isn't really on my list for our cold, dark waters, but bright colored t-shirts over the wetsuit are on most of the time now. This began when I started getting complaints from the seaplane pilots and boaters about me being hard to spot while out and about in the channel here at home in Ketchikan. I didn't really think about much, as I can always hear them getting close. But the added safety factor of someone being able to spot ME if I was in trouble, has slowly sunk into my brain as being a very good idea.

Thinking about asking Santa for a Spot/PLB for X-mas, and maybe packing on of my hand-held VHF's with me on longer paddles might not be a bad idea too. Most of my paddling and D-Winding is done in our long, fairly narrow channel, and I'm usually within a half-mile from shore, if not closer. Anyway, thanks for the good tips! Those, along with re-reading the older posts about DJ's adventures is a good reminder to me to pay more attention now that Fall is upon us (up here that is)
CMC
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30 Sep 2013 2:03pm
Mikeman is the most comforting guy to paddle with ever. Breeds confidence, keeps his eye on everyone and has the gear, ability and a plan to get you out of trouble if it happened.

Last time though he was in my vision as I tried to take a 5 foot windy bomb coming back into the Alley and turned a dry hair epic run the whole rest of the way including negotiating pumping super bank on the paddle out into a full blown, leggy stretching drubbing. I'm glad he got a laugh though.
mikeman
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30 Sep 2013 3:09pm
RainWaves said..

Hi Mike,
greetings from Alaska, and thanks for sharing this with us. I keep a signal mirror and whistle in one of the pockets in my Camelbak (along with my triple-bagged cell phone), but really like the compact flare kit you have in yours. I'll have to look around and see if I can find something similar around here. Looking at all of your stuff certainly gives one thoughts about how prepared a person actually is!

Sunscreen isn't really on my list for our cold, dark waters, but bright colored t-shirts over the wetsuit are on most of the time now. This began when I started getting complaints from the seaplane pilots and boaters about me being hard to spot while out and about in the channel here at home in Ketchikan. I didn't really think about much, as I can always hear them getting close. But the added safety factor of someone being able to spot ME if I was in trouble, has slowly sunk into my brain as being a very good idea.

Thinking about asking Santa for a Spot/PLB for X-mas, and maybe packing on of my hand-held VHF's with me on longer paddles might not be a bad idea too. Most of my paddling and D-Winding is done in our long, fairly narrow channel, and I'm usually within a half-mile from shore, if not closer. Anyway, thanks for the good tips! Those, along with re-reading the older posts about DJ's adventures is a good reminder to me to pay more attention now that Fall is upon us (up here that is)


Great to hear people from as far away as Alaska read this stuff. I will put on some more pics on what clothing I usually wear, as this is as important as the backpack itself. I always wear a Day-Glo orange shirt and hat and my board shorts are usually red - all colours that are easy to see and contrast with the colours of the sea and whitecaps. White and black are the worst colours to use if you want to be seen. It's no use being camouflaged at sea if you need help. Make it as easy for your fellow paddlers and possible rescuers to see you. My DC14 is also all orange (with a big V on the bottom hull) so that will also help out a bit, if necessary.

I had a good look at some of those new laser flares that DJ mentioned. They look pretty good and are probably a better option than the older type that I carry. Here is a link on what looks like the best www.odeoflare.com
DavidJohn
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30 Sep 2013 6:54pm
There is a very new type of lazer flare that puts out a wide fan shaped beam an you just tilt it up and down to cover a huge area.. It's very different to the first lazer flares.

DJ
OG SUP
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30 Sep 2013 7:33pm
Lovin your work with the back pack Mikeman.

DJ these Lazer Flares are supposed to be pretty good I know quite a few tech divers that use them for recovery.

www.whitworths.com.au/rescue-red-laser-flare-light

In Vicco I still think the Icom floating VHF gets the best response we have use them as far down as PRK and the coast repeater systems hit Melb Radio no problem. The guys get up to 5-7km out on Corio and no issues with comms.



DavidJohn
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30 Sep 2013 7:52pm
OG SUP said..

Lovin your work with the back pack Mikeman.

DJ these Lazer Flares are supposed to be pretty good I know quite a few tech divers that use them for recovery.

www.whitworths.com.au/rescue-red-laser-flare-light

In Vicco I still think the Icom floating VHF gets the best response we have use them as far down as PRK and the coast repeater systems hit Melb Radio no problem. The guys get up to 5-7km out on Corio and no issues with comms.





That's it Phil.. Thanks for the link.

DJ
rghdc
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7 Oct 2013 1:29am
wow...$150 they are really proud of those things...how come they can make a led flashlight/pointed lazer combination and sell it for $5 in ACE Hardware?
DavidJohn
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7 Oct 2013 8:34am
rghdc said..

wow...$150 they are really proud of those things...how come they can make a led flashlight/pointed lazer combination and sell it for $5 in ACE Hardware?


They are very different to a pointer type lazer.. Btw the first types were like that and they don't work very well.

These new types have a faned out array of beams so by just waving it up and down covers a huge area.

I'm guessing to do that they can't just split one lazer because you would reduce the power so much.

They must have a lot of separate lazes mounted very close together.. all at a slightly different angle.

DJ
NewScotty
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7 Oct 2013 7:55am
Milkman,
I am guessing you were a boy scout as their motto is 'Be Prepared'.
The stand out for me is the EPIRB.
This is overlooked by so many.
This is the most important item for anybody venturing on land or water.
When it all goes wrong, you know the EPIRB will give you the best chance.
Great post.
mikeman
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8 Oct 2013 12:15pm
No, I wasn't a scout. It comes from lots of time on/in the ocean and mountains. I was also a front line army paramedic on the Namibia/Angola border and a Pro Lifeguard. All of these experiences taught me to be well prepared for the worst case scenario. I also usually try and plan to be able to rescue myself/others when necessary.

I know a few people have a good laugh at me but I don't take any notice of them. If I am able to positively influence just one person with putting this thread out there then I am happy with the outcome.
Downwinder
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8 Oct 2013 1:18pm
mikeman said..
I was also a front line army paramedic on the Namibia/Angola border


tha dogman
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8 Oct 2013 4:33pm
Downwinder said...
mikeman said..
I was also a front line army paramedic on the Namibia/Angola border





That is so mike
mikeman
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9 Oct 2013 12:22pm

Downwinder, you are obviously missing the point here. When you are a front line Ops Medic you are responsible for a lot of lives. You are often what stands between life and death. If you are well prepared you give yourself, and those that rely on you, the best possible chances of survival. It's the same with the ocean. As you are a Gold Coast Lifeguard and an experienced paddler I would have expected a little more leadership from you on the issue of safety at sea, especially to all of the newcomers getting into downwind paddling.
PTWoody
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9 Oct 2013 1:29pm
I'm all for safety at sea, but that clip is bloody funny.
Downwinder
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9 Oct 2013 7:16pm
mikeman said..


Downwinder, you are obviously missing the point here. When you are a front line Ops Medic you are responsible for a lot of lives. You are often what stands between life and death. If you are well prepared you give yourself, and those that rely on you, the best possible chances of survival. It's the same with the ocean. As you are a Gold Coast Lifeguard and an experienced paddler I would have expected a little more leadership from you on the issue of safety at sea, especially to all of the newcomers getting into downwind paddling.





Milkeman I agree with what you say. I'm all for safety at sea especial if you're in a boat in the middle of nowhere you need all the safety gear known to man. When your doing a Downwind paddle you're only 500 metres to say 2 kilometres of the coast so a legrope and a camelbak is all you really need because you should be-able to swim to the beach if you lose your board if you can't swim don't get into Downwind Paddling. If you're doing any kind of channel crossing you have a support boat.
When I take my Jet-Ski out for a trawl I have all the safety gear, Phone to ring the Coast Guard, E-perb, flair, Da Fin swim fins, goggles, Type 2 Flotation Device, water, and my H2O head phones to listen to some music.

You've goto admit Mikeman the chimp with the AK-47 is Bulk Funny.

In your day in the 70's even up to the mid 80's being a Saffa it was compulsory to do 2 year in the South African Army I'm so glad I was born an Aussie because f### that.

If I had to do 2 years compulsory in the Army I'm joining the Viking Armed Forces because all they did was get drunk with a little bit of rape and pillaging.

If you're having problems with your computer Mikeman I'll send Ed over to fix it for you.

mikeman
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10 Oct 2013 2:21pm
Now that one was really funny. Where do you find these things?

No worries, Downwinder - I know you are very conscious about safety and have the ability and experience to handle yourself. This post was really aimed at the newcomers. I have seen a few things lately that are going to attract the wrong kind of attention to us. Some people still don't even want to use a leg rope on a downwinder. It will only take one incident and we will be over regulated - just like what the clubbies are going through at the moment. If we prevent incidents from happening in the first place then we will not end up in the headlines.

Yes, being conscripted to fight a silly war was not fun at all. In those days the basic choices were limited to:
a) 2 years army (+10 years annual camps),
b) 3 years jail,
c) 5 years permanent/police/airforce/navy,
d) leave the country (if you could).

I choose to be a medic in the army and at least I came out with some positive experiences. Most were not so lucky.
teatrea
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10 Oct 2013 2:46pm
Expect the best and prepare for the worstIts always the under prepared that get into troubleI dont know about a 2k swim to shore Downwinder or more expecially if your injured in a place that has strong currents ect. Vids where funnyIf your going solo great ideas , thanks.
Downwinder
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10 Oct 2013 6:02pm
mikeman said..

Now that one was really funny. Where do you find these things?

No worries, Downwinder - I know you are very conscious about safety and have the ability and experience to handle yourself. This post was really aimed at the newcomers. I have seen a few things lately that are going to attract the wrong kind of attention to us. Some people still don't even want to use a leg rope on a downwinder. It will only take one incident and we will be over regulated - just like what the clubbies are going through at the moment. If we prevent incidents from happening in the first place then we will not end up in the headlines.

Yes, being conscripted to fight a silly war was not fun at all. In those days the basic choices were limited to:
a) 2 years army (+10 years annual camps),
b) 3 years jail,
c) 5 years permanent/police/airforce/navy,
d) leave the country (if you could).

I choose to be a medic in the army and at least I came out with some positive experiences. Most were not so lucky.


All good Mikeman you're a weapon. A medic would have been my choice as well if I couldn't leave the country.
Downwinder
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10 Oct 2013 6:12pm
teatrea I heard you got pulled over by the South American Police

Leroy13
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10 Oct 2013 7:42pm
Downwinder said..

mikeman said..

Now that one was really funny. Where do you find these things?



I choose to be a medic in the army and at least I came out with some positive experiences. Most were not so lucky.


All good Mikeman you're a weapon. A medic would have been my choice as well if I couldn't leave the country.



You're both weapons. That Backpack should be mandatory for anyone that does potentially dangerous outdoor activities. You'd reckon one of the outdoor companies would produce a standard one. Not saying you have to wear it unless in potentially dangerous situations. ie. Trail biking/ Mtn Biking etc. (as well as open ocean paddling.)

Besides teaching PE in a primary school, I also teach Computer classes to Preps. I think they'd love Ed. ( I'm not sure their Mum's would). Now that video was wicked Downwinder. When I grow up I want to have your life mate,........livin the dream or what!!! As Mikeman said where do you find this stuff??? I reckon you must be Rupert Murdoch's illegitimate son cause you gots all da toys I want and the time to do it in. Long live the Iron Phill!!

That AK47 one reminds me of my Dad and his mates on their shooting trips (Pigging) to Western NSW when I was younger, they made some really good decisions when full of happy juice Seriously DW,I nearly wet myself laughing (old man thing)
teatrea
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10 Oct 2013 7:44pm
Thats funny mate , i got pulled over by one of SanFranciscoes finest and he wanted to take me out to dinner LOL.Didnt get to do the whole shot em up deal in vegas mate but did get to fire the dirty harry .44. That thing is insane , bigger kick than the shotty and the machine guns , ridiculous Vegas is ridiculous
Downwinder
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10 Oct 2013 8:17pm
TRUE STORY Breezes we all should listen to mikeman he is on the money when it comes to safety. This is from 2008 there was myself, Jamie Mitchell and 5 others we were doing a Downwind Paddle from Snapper Rocks to Sea World (inside the seaway) 30 km. Downwind conditions were perfect - 25 knots of South-East Winds with a good six-foot South Swell, the only downfall was the rain squalls. So we all paddle out to the back of Snapper Rocks (the lineup) and go. After about 2 minutes I could not see any of the other paddlers so I thought I can just head for Q1 - so I’m paddling having the best time on my yellow F 16 (this SUP was the 1st unlimited SUP in Australia) I was catching some of the best runners ever, surfing these 6 foot swells for hundreds of yards before I knew it I was in line with Burleigh Heads. So I’ve done 12 km in 52 minutes stoked - I thought all was ripping and I was thinking to myself how good is this, so anyway I’m paddling catching some all-time runners enjoying life heading towards QI. By this time 25 minutes has gone past and I look back on the mainland and am now in front of Tallebudgera SLSC. WTF I’m going backwards - so I kept on paddling, having a great time but I was not going anywhere? So I’m thinking bugger this - I paddle back into Burleigh Heads and ring up Linda to not come and pick me up at Sea World and tell Jamie Mitchell’s girlfriend not to worry about me. So I’m paddling for a good 1/2 hour going nowhere I’m way, way out at sea like way out (like on my way to Fiji) so I’m thinking well f##k it looks like I’m going to end up at Cook Island, I named this current the Burleigh Bermuda Triangle, thinking well if I don’t make it eventually a search party will come looking for me. Then all of a sudden, say 10 minutes, I’m in front of Miami rocks. I eventually came in at Kurrawa SLSC - the waves were solid 6ft and closing out so I took my leg rope off and paddled my arse off when there was a lull to get past the impact zone, then when the sets came I just bailed, I then had a 400metre swim holding on to a paddle. When I made it to the beach this Clubbie comes up to me and says “we were just about to launch the Rubber Duckie and come and get you”, I said “you left that a bit late mate and lucky I wasn’t drowning”. So I phoned Linda, lucky I just got her before she left to come and get me at Sea World this is pre Mobile phone for Linda. I then phoned Jamie Mitchell’s girlfriend - they thought he was with me. The Westpac helicopter found Jamie Mitchell 5 kilometres up South Stradbroke beach. Only 2 guys made it to Sea World. I got home, drank a ctn of beer after that experience, plugged the Garmin 305 GPS watch into the computer -it said I was 8 kilometres out to sea and my speed was 137 km/h I’m guessing the GPS watch was calculating my speed and the currents speed.
JasonProsser
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10 Oct 2013 9:41pm
Some good info and equipment ideas on this website: www.nrs.com/
They have a reasonable library on their "learn" page, andit's worth looking under topics outside of SUP, as the rules for open ocean apply to all paddlers.
mikeman
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11 Oct 2013 12:07pm
I posted a short movie "Whales, runs and inverted video" on a solo run the other day. There are a few things in there that are worth noting:
-the Safety Orange colour of my board
-the Day-Glo orange colour of my shirt (and hat) and Red colour of my boardies
-the fact that I am a long way out so need to be as well equipped as possible.

The backpack is particularly important on these types of paddles.
Blackdmnd
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11 Oct 2013 5:09pm
Nice work Mikeman, looks like you've got it all sorted. Hoping to be up on the Goldie in next few months & keen to hook up for some downwinding & to learn from the master.
Your old surfing & surveying pal.
Mike G
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Heres a pic of the backpack in action
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