Warm water or cold whats heavier???

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hilly
hilly
WA
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21 Feb 2010 6:42pm
Which is heavier??



or



Large testicles
teatrea
teatrea
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21 Feb 2010 9:14pm
second one looks insane.
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
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21 Feb 2010 11:38pm
Both are heavy in my book but those large testicles may be smaller in the cold water..

DJ
PTWoody
PTWoody
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21 Feb 2010 11:46pm
If you're going to be hit by roughly 20 tons of pressure, I don't think your temperature receptors really care too much.
Benz
Benz
WA
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21 Feb 2010 9:24pm
any vid of hawaaii comp
hilly
hilly
WA
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21 Feb 2010 9:51pm
Benz said...

any vid of hawaaii comp



Check this out



or



Laurie FFS when can we embed vimeo come on!!!
mikeman
mikeman
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22 Feb 2010 9:32am
Big wave surfing is always heavier in cold water, in my opinion.
Dr Funk
Dr Funk
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22 Feb 2010 10:39am
Cold water. This is because in cold water, the molecules are close together, thus making the water more dense, though not much. In hot water, the molecules get so hot that they move faster, making them further apart and less dense.
JonathanC
JonathanC
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22 Feb 2010 10:48am
Don't know if it's my imagination but windsurfing in big waves in winter even smacking your body into a large lump of chop will actually wind you, just never seems to happen that way in summer. Don't know if the "waves" are heavier but it does feel like it. Some one needs to get Doctor Karl onto that one
Piros
Piros
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22 Feb 2010 10:13am
The cold seems to suck the air out of your lungs when you get smashed , so I reckon a cold water hiding hurts more.

Rob
goatman
goatman
NSW
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22 Feb 2010 11:22am
Cold is a lot heavier I reckon. Some of the wipeouts I had in Capetown in 8 degrees water were horrible.
Bnaccas
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22 Feb 2010 11:57am
Yeah I rekon cold water but at least the wetty adds a bit of float so you can relax more while you're getting smashed!
mikeman
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22 Feb 2010 11:14am
Bnaccas said...

Yeah I rekon cold water but at least the wetty adds a bit of float so you can relax more while you're getting smashed!


Yes, but having to SUP with booties, a hood and a thick wettie adds to the "heavyness". You can also relax more underwater when the water is warm. It is pretty hard to relax underwater when the water is less than 10 degrees.

dtm
dtm
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22 Feb 2010 12:49pm
i think the first looks bloody thick
SammyJ
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22 Feb 2010 10:54am
I've often wondered about this...

From my experiences with hold down's at Marg's compared to Gnaraloo in similar size waves I would much prefer a warm water flogging. To top it off I'd go one step further and say an Indo beating would be my first option.

Personally I think it's got more to do with were the swell has traveled from. The whole south coast round to Vic seams to pack a punch. Some wild sea's in that southern Ocean.
Gorgo
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22 Feb 2010 2:35pm
SammyJ said...
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Personally I think it's got more to do with were the swell has traveled from. The whole south coast round to Vic seams to pack a punch. Some wild sea's in that southern Ocean.


I agree. A hit from a 4' wave at Byron or Noosa is a love tap but a hit from 4' in Vic is like being run over by a small truck.

Similarly, a Woolamai, Gunnamatta or Portsea beating is a lot heavier than many Surf Coast waves.
Newmo
Newmo
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22 Feb 2010 2:49pm
I have to agree that a beating at Woolamai takes your breath away. I kind of don't mind falling off in warm water.
Cheers Scott
goatman
goatman
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22 Feb 2010 2:59pm
Woolamai is a very heavy break compared to say Bells at the same size. Is this because of the continental shelf of the like?

I reckon size for size some of our Sydney reefs are as heavy as anywhere, check out Kelly at one of our 'local' spots, aptly named 'deadmans'. It is breaking about 20 meters from the base of a cliff.

Newmo
Newmo
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22 Feb 2010 3:13pm
I lived on the northern beaches a few years ago and took many a beating and a fine thrashing or two at DY Point
Cheers Scott
daletor
daletor
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22 Feb 2010 3:18pm
goatman said...

Woolamai is a very heavy break compared to say Bells at the same size. Is this because of the continental shelf of the like?




Woolomai is a direct hit for the swell. Swell comes from the South West fetch and does not have to turn.
For Bells the swell turns 90 degrees eliminating some size and power. It still packs a punch! Bells hold downs are notorious when the swell gets bigger. Bells tends to pick up and hold more swell than other Surf Coast waves as it comes out of deeper water.
I am well past my days of experiencing a Bells hold down - leave that to the younger ones.

Impressive video of Kelly at Dead mans. Love the way he pulls into a barrell. Is Dead mans Cape solander? ....or Sandon Point?
goatman
goatman
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22 Feb 2010 3:35pm
Cliffs next to Manly!

But Sandon Point is great....I have a map....
AA
AA
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22 Feb 2010 4:51pm
Yeah Goaty this was an epic day to watch!
We were on a Bower mission when we saw a huge crowd gathered in the car park.

It is always a worthy sight when Deadmans is ON, as half the guys get cleaned up trying to take the drop. It is one GNARLY wave! Never dropped it myself even in my younger days. Winki dredging was enough for me

Slater was one of only a handful of guys paddling in that day. Everyone else was towing.

Slater was just insane, the control he had dropping in that deep was just mind blowing for a guy who just rocked up and didn't have the full set-up. I guess that what makes him a World Champ!

As for cold verses hot 'wackings', I am guessing the Winter swells are generally a longer swell period with way more punch and then cold water then just takes your breathe away!
dtm
dtm
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22 Feb 2010 5:01pm
i was there that day at deadmans and KS was riding a twin fin as in his excitment he forgot to screw in his back fin in his board !!!! What a freak who gets excited over surf that big and breaking onto a cliff?
hilly
hilly
WA
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22 Feb 2010 5:36pm
goatman said...

Woolamai is a very heavy break compared to say Bells at the same size. Is this because of the continental shelf of the like?


Lack of a continental shelf boosts the power of a surf break.
laceys lane
laceys lane
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22 Feb 2010 10:31pm
goatman said...

Woolamai is a very heavy break compared to say Bells at the same size. Is this because of the continental shelf of the like?

I reckon size for size some of our Sydney reefs are as heavy as anywhere, check out Kelly at one of our 'local' spots, aptly named 'deadmans'. It is breaking about 20 meters from the base of a cliff.

i've seen the photos, but never the footage. absolutely mind blowing surfing

Tux
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23 Feb 2010 12:42pm





Woolomai is a direct hit for the swell. Swell comes from the South West fetch and does not have to turn.
For Bells the swell turns 90 degrees eliminating some size and power. It still packs a punch! Bells hold downs are notorious when the swell gets bigger. Bells tends to pick up and hold more swell than other Surf Coast waves as it comes out of deeper water.
I am well past my days of experiencing a Bells hold down - leave that to the younger ones.




woolies is like a quick jab to the face by Iron Mike...very painful but you know your coming up pretty quick...Bells is like getting caught on the ropes it seems to hold you down and roll you for ages........
goatman
goatman
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23 Feb 2010 12:58pm
hilly said...

goatman said...

Woolamai is a very heavy break compared to say Bells at the same size. Is this because of the continental shelf or the like?


Lack of a continental shelf boosts the power of a surf break.



I guess that was my point check out the continental shelf on the NSW coast compared to the rest of the country:




The swell direction makes sense in reference to Woolamai. Apart from the shorey I never found Bells that heavy a hold down.
AA
AA
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23 Feb 2010 1:38pm
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