nice

Looks like a one-manned sub!!

Hope it goes well for ya - looking forward to seeing some action pics when she is finished.

Interesting.. After the first couple of pics I was also thinking where's the periscope go.. .. Can't wait to hear how it goes.

DJ

Casso, I'm pretty sure it is a 17.

Al, it looks to have a low amount of rocker, which is fine. It will be very interesting to hear how this goes. But it looks like you will have both a great tourer and down winder. Slicing front end. It will do a little bit of nose diving on runners, but that nose and that volume should have the nose stay on course, and pop back out in no time. Plus the rudder for active steering.

Looking forward to the pics on launch day now !!

Looks great Alain , that's alot of carbon ....on the water this weekend ?

Rob

Piros said...

Looks great Alain , that's alot of carbon ....on the water this weekend ?

Rob

that's the plan. I have to stay in byron this sunday and I know dale wanted to bring the board for the race in burleigh. So i hope I can have it a day before to try it out, I would hate you to put your feet on it before I do!! I can't even imagine it !
But I must admit it might happen

Hey Al.. Are you coming to Merimbula next month?.. I'd love to see that thing in real life.. It looks amazing.

I'm guessing when it pearls/pierces it will not go right under water like the Naish 17 can and maybe that's a good thing.. and I'm also guessing when it does pearl/pierce you are going to have to keep it going straight or it will catch turn and broach much more than the Naish 17 and that's not such a good thing.. btw.. I took my Javelin on a short DW run today and the fast piercing nose let me catch runners with a couple of quick power strokes and it was off like a rocket.. and then it was concentration-plus to try and keep it going straight.. What's the rails like at the rear.. Are they the same as the normal DC DW boards?.. Do you think you are going to be able to surf it and turn it on a runner?

DJ

DavidJohn said...

Hey Al.. Are you coming to Merimbula next month?.. I'd love to see that thing in real life.. It looks amazing.

I'm guessing when it pearls/pierces it will not go right under water like the Naish 17 can and maybe that's a good thing.. and I'm also guessing when it does pearl/pierce you are going to have to keep it going straight or it will catch turn and broach much more than the Naish 17 and that's not such a good thing.. btw.. I took my Javelin on a short DW run today and the fast piercing nose let me catch runners with a couple of quick power strokes and it was off like a rocket.. and then it was concentration-plus to try and keep it going straight.. What's the rails like at the rear.. Are they the same as the normal DC DW boards?.. Do you think you are going to be able to surf it and turn it on a runner?

DJ

Hey DJ
I am not sure for the Merimbula as I may be in hawai but I know dale wants to come down. If the board feels good dale will make one quite similar for himself so one way or the other you should see one (except if lacey's right and I destroy this one next week)
If it was for me the board would have been 18' or 19' and maybe a more extreme dihedrail narrower in front. Due to the limitation of the machine shaping this one was already a bit of a nightmare for dale (and I can't thank him enough to have gone through all the problems to give me what I wanted) so I had to settle down a bit... plus it will be good to experiment this kind of volume before pushing the idea further.
The rails of the DC you compared with your naish 17 were not really like normal DC DW boards, but are closed to what I am getting.
I can relate to what you described earlier and of course it might be concentration-plus to try and keep it going straight but the idea was not to get to much water over the dihedrail preventing the nose to come back up (often sideways) so I needed the volume.
I do most of my DW between byron and Lennox both ways, the runners IMO are different from what they get on the goldie and I think this board will work for that. If somebody is faster than me on a side wind, and if I don't win anything is not of my concern. I am looking for pleasure of use with the wind in my back before anything. We'll see....

how long have you been designing boards laceys lane

Looks good.. looks really good.. thanks for the pics and update.

DJ

Al Hunter said...

DavidJohn said...

Hey Al.. Are you coming to Merimbula next month?.. I'd love to see that thing in real life.. It looks amazing.

I'm guessing when it pearls/pierces it will not go right under water like the Naish 17 can and maybe that's a good thing.. and I'm also guessing when it does pearl/pierce you are going to have to keep it going straight or it will catch turn and broach much more than the Naish 17 and that's not such a good thing.. btw.. I took my Javelin on a short DW run today and the fast piercing nose let me catch runners with a couple of quick power strokes and it was off like a rocket.. and then it was concentration-plus to try and keep it going straight.. What's the rails like at the rear.. Are they the same as the normal DC DW boards?.. Do you think you are going to be able to surf it and turn it on a runner?

DJ

Hey DJ
I am not sure for the Merimbula as I may be in hawai but I know dale wants to come down. If the board feels good dale will make one quite similar for himself so one way or the other you should see one (except if lacey's right and I destroy this one next week)
If it was for me the board would have been 18' or 19' and maybe a more extreme dihedrail narrower in front. Due to the limitation of the machine shaping this one was already a bit of a nightmare for dale (and I can't thank him enough to have gone through all the problems to give me what I wanted) so I had to settle down a bit... plus it will be good to experiment this kind of volume before pushing the idea further.
The rails of the DC you compared with your naish 17 were not really like normal DC DW boards, but are closed to what I am getting.
I can relate to what you described earlier and of course it might be concentration-plus to try and keep it going straight but the idea was not to get to much water over the dihedrail preventing the nose to come back up (often sideways) so I needed the volume.
I do most of my DW between byron and Lennox both ways, the runners IMO are different from what they get on the goldie and I think this board will work for that. If somebody is faster than me on a side wind, and if I don't win anything is not of my concern. I am looking for pleasure of use with the wind in my back before anything. We'll see....

G'day Al Hunter
yep very different Downwind board happy for ya ( Eccentric Thinking hay ) it looks more a Flat water Board how heavy is it my f18 weighs in at 17.5kg yes Bulk Heavy & is bult for speed in da flat or 12knots or less in da ocean.
( very happy with f18 results )
Al if you was to paddle this board in da flat with no wind & no current how long does it take for ya to paddle one kilometre.
DW

Very intersting Al , that bow looks like an ocean racing ski , great concept really interested to here how it goes in the runners.I love all this R&D on race boards.

edit: you beat me with your last post , you seem to be a long way back on the that run what's the pressure like on your feet when the nose pushes in.

Rob

G'day Al Hunter
yep very different Downwind board happy for ya ( Eccentric Thinking hay ) it looks more a Flat water Board how heavy is it my f18 weighs in at 17.5kg yes Bulk Heavy & is bult for speed in da flat or 12knots or less in da ocean.
( very happy with f18 results )
Al if you was to paddle this board in da flat with no wind & no current how long does it take for ya to paddle one kilometre.
DW

The board was 15.8kg since then I put a back foot grip so I guess 16kg
I haven't done a 1km yet so it's hard to tell and it will depend so much on the paddler I am not sure I should be the one trying it on 1km
All I know is that everywhere I train, I am concistently faster than with my previous 16. So maybe I got better conditions everytime since I have this 17 but I doubt it.
I have never seen the F18 so I have no clue or opinion. I hope my board will handle lots of wind. That's what I was thinking when we were designing it. I never thought of it as a light wind board.
The thing I am starting to realise is that the board can get a lot more runners than my previous one. Last week I totally blew up on a 10km downwind because I was going for every runners and was not getting any rest.
I guess now that on this board a top paddler will physically make a huge difference with an average paddler as he will be able to handle the intensity better.
I have the same problem when I train with my surfski and have to let the good guys go away because they can go for every single runner for 20km...not me
I am sure we'll meet sometime because we are not far from each other and I'd love to compare both board.
Will your 12'6 be finished for kirra? I'll be there with my 12'6...

G'day Al
Thanks for your reply Al, be great to have a chat with ya & a beer. See ya at Kirra. I'll be spectating. My 12'6'' will not be ready Woody let me down too many excesses - like they say talk is cheap - anyway all good

How come it was painted? The raw carbon look, looks great imo. Do they get to hot??