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Created by mollydooka > 9 months ago, 7 Apr 2011
mollydooka
WA, 252 posts
7 Apr 2011 4:24PM
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Well that's what the Catalans (people from the Spanish region of Catalonia, et al) would have us believe.
http://www.stand-up-surf.com/2011/04/el-origen-del-sup-barcelona-1920/
"The origin of sup Barcelona 1920"

It's in Spanish, but you can get the gist. I'll translate it if anyone really wants me to (not being a smart-arse, lived in South America in the 80's for a year or so)......

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
7 Apr 2011 7:14PM
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Do they call it THUP in Barthelona?

mollydooka
WA, 252 posts
7 Apr 2011 7:00PM
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PTWoody said...

Do they call it THUP in Barthelona?


no
In Barcelona they speak Catalan (although that article was in Spanish), and there is no θ (theta) sound in Catalan. There is no θ sound in Latin American Spanish either (where Spanish is called Castellano, "Castilian", along with various regions in Spain).
Some regions in Spain do use the θ sound (for c before e or i, & z), thus those people would pronounce Barcelona as Barthelona, & cerveza (beer) is pronounced servaysa in Latin America (& some parts of Spain), and thervaytha in the rest of Spain. S is never pronounced as θ (theta, or "the Spanish lisp").

There, aren't you sorry you asked?

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
7 Apr 2011 11:13PM
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Yeth. Very thorry.

Lobes
885 posts
8 Apr 2011 5:40AM
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The most fascinating explanation I heard for the Spanish lisp was that there was a king of spain some hundreds of years ago. He had a very bad lisp and to ingratiate themselves his subjects all took on his manner of speaking, and somehow it has stuck!

Lobes
885 posts
8 Apr 2011 5:43AM
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But yes I spent some time learning Spanish before a trip to Spain some years ago and found it quite useless as I spent most of my time in catalunya and the basque country where people were almost as likely to speak English as castellano!

Minkee
QLD, 225 posts
8 Apr 2011 2:43PM
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mollydooka said...

Well that's what the Catalans (people from the Spanish region of Catalonia, et al)


Catalonia is across France and Spain for the record...
just sayin'

mollydooka
WA, 252 posts
8 Apr 2011 9:00PM
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Minkee said...

mollydooka said...

Well that's what the Catalans (people from the Spanish region of Catalonia, et al)


Catalonia is across France and Spain for the record...
just sayin'




umm, well, Catalonia is a Spanish region, but what I meant by the "et al" (and others) is that there are Catalans populating other areas besides the Spanish region, viz: France & Andorra. Although they are Catalan people, & they speak Catalan, it's actually France/Andorra, not Catalonia. Just a minor technical point that no-one besides Minkee, me, & perhaps Lobes, give a rat's arse about

Minkee
QLD, 225 posts
9 Apr 2011 10:54AM
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I agree they are catalans and speak the lingo but administratively they're not part of it... It is very often the case with many region in europe like the basque country or arpitania for exemple where country borders do actually splits communities.

SandS
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10 Apr 2011 11:16PM
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no no no ..mithder faulty !!!

log man
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11 Apr 2011 11:11AM
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. SCORCHIO!!!!



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