Should it be accepted or banned ?

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Al Hunter
Al Hunter
NSW
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17 May 2011 9:15pm
Every new idea can bring some controversy.
Double blades paddle, multi hull board....already banned from most races.
What do you think of this one.
A fixed strap that allows you to reach a bit further.
That's happening in France. At the moment it is still authorised as there is no written rule against it. The guy using it is full of ideas and in a way we need people like him for the sport to progress.
I would just like to have the feeling of everybody. Right or Wrong ?



SandS
SandS
VIC
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17 May 2011 9:22pm

Ban the Bum Rope !!
Scotty88
Scotty88
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4214 posts
17 May 2011 7:23pm
Trust the bloody French to come up with that one.
Al Hunter
Al Hunter
NSW
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NSW, 367 posts
17 May 2011 9:26pm
Scotty88 said...

Trust the bloody French to come up with that one.


this topic should not be politcally related with the situation of the head guy of the IMF
Scotty88
Scotty88
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17 May 2011 7:26pm
Further to previous, I don't like it. It's in the "NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME" category. What next ? Winged keel ?
Piros
Piros
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17 May 2011 9:27pm
The new French version of the Powerband very good question Alain ????? don't know the answer it's just an extension of a leg rope. I can't see any real advantage but I have'nt tried it. Scooped decks , rudders , massive double concaves are all OK can't think of a technical reason to ban this.
Al Hunter
Al Hunter
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17 May 2011 9:30pm
Piros said...

can't think of a technical reason to ban this.


maybe helping with stability wich is a big part of the general fatigue on a long distance paddle
Piros
Piros
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17 May 2011 9:40pm
What happens if you need to move forward to push over a bump ? personally I don't like it , whether it helps with stability it still won't reduce the pressure on your legs it will probably increase the pressure in the long run , again only assuming.
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
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17 May 2011 10:18pm
I'd like one from the front as well.

That would mean I could only fall left or right reducing my falls by 50% ..

DJ
laceys lane
laceys lane
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17 May 2011 10:43pm
technically i can't see any hip shoulder diagonal movement/ rotation working with that rope. it would be straight ahead arm paddling i would think

morally or in the spirit of supping well -its a big no no imo,


but then i think the same about foot straps on sups-----unless you are getting sup towed in at mac speed
cheers
AA
AA
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AA AA
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17 May 2011 11:02pm
This one is right up there with boardies over wetsuits
teatrea
teatrea
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17 May 2011 11:13pm
lame
Bnaccas
Bnaccas
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17 May 2011 11:17pm
If it helps the paddler then probably should be banned for races.
But if it's available to everyone and it helps as far as technique
goes and prevents injury then it could be OK.

Some paddles would definitely be faster than others, and some
boards are faster than others but are aren't forced to use one design.

Like AA said, looks gay!
Gorgo
Gorgo
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17 May 2011 11:29pm
If it works then everybody can use it.

If it doesn't then who cares? We can laugh at the guys who are doing it.

It also gives a long leash that doesn't drag in the water.
Scotty88
Scotty88
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17 May 2011 9:34pm
Sup is all about engaging the core. Buggered if I know what this would do for the core. Probably cause your body more harm then good. I say do it at your peril or embarassment.
laceys lane
laceys lane
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17 May 2011 11:53pm
Scotty88 said...

Sup is all about engaging the core. Buggered if I know what this would do for the core. Probably cause your body more harm then good. I say do it at your peril or embarassment.


i was thinking that, you could really hurt yourself in many ways

as they say- you could really bust ya guts

just paddle the things fast ya self

i can just see six ropes on an oc 6 -not
tightlines
tightlines
WA
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17 May 2011 10:30pm
Simply wrong, just wrong.
PTWoody
PTWoody
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18 May 2011 12:31am
I think it should be legal as long as competitors are allowed to sharpen their paddle blades on an angle grinder so as to cut through that rope at an opportune moment.
DavidJohn
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18 May 2011 1:20am
PTWoody said...

I think it should be legal as long as competitors are allowed to sharpen their paddle blades on an angle grinder so as to cut through that rope at an opportune moment.


I was thinking the same thing with bayonets on the paddles.. Sneak up from behind and watch the face-plants happen..

DJ

chrispychru
chrispychru
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18 May 2011 7:38am
no no no no no its wrong to be used races. might be helpful for up and comoing strippers though
CMC
CMC
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18 May 2011 9:31am
The bloke in the picture would probably gain a greater advantage by straightening his bottom arm than this bum leash.

Gorgo
Gorgo
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18 May 2011 10:10am
It is slightly ironic that SUPers, the lepers of the sea, are hanging it on guys using bum leashes because it looks funny.

I predict that the bum leash will disappear because it probably doesn't do anything useful ... and it looks funny.

If it works (ie. I can paddle my SUP up to planing speeds) then I'll have a red one please.
russh
russh
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18 May 2011 9:48am
looks like a dog on a lead - havent seen such contraversy since disc wheels, aerodynamic helmets and laydown bars on triathalon bikes

Funny to see it when it snaps
Scotty88
Scotty88
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4214 posts
18 May 2011 8:36am
DavidJohn said...

I'd like one from the front as well.

That would mean I could only fall left or right reducing my falls by 50% ..

DJ


One on the back,one on the front & one on each side. Can't fall off. Look like a bloody antenae on an a roof.
doggie
doggie
WA
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18 May 2011 8:59am
AA said...

This one is right up there with boardies over wetsuits


Or standing on a board with a paddle in your hand
scotty100
scotty100
QLD
235 posts
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18 May 2011 11:11am
make a great legrope?? send him out in 10 foot surf with it on , it will be last time he wears it.

piss it off you would have to shorten paddle or loose power in stoke what a joke imo
Makaha
Makaha
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1145 posts
18 May 2011 9:37am
doggie said...

AA said...

This one is right up there with boardies over wetsuits


Or standing on a board with a paddle in your hand


Lucky theres no red thumbs doggie
Lobes
Lobes
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18 May 2011 9:56am
its just a slightly different leash. I dont see a problem. If you're going to ban this you may as well ban coiled leashes that dont drag in the water as well
doggie
doggie
WA
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18 May 2011 10:05am
Makaha said...

doggie said...

AA said...

This one is right up there with boardies over wetsuits


Or standing on a board with a paddle in your hand


Lucky theres no red thumbs doggie


Why would I care plenty of green ones tho
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
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18 May 2011 10:06am
Lobes said...

its just a slightly different leash. I dont see a problem. If you're going to ban this you may as well ban coiled leashes that dont drag in the water as well


If everbody has one what is the difference anyway
CMC
CMC
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18 May 2011 2:42pm
This thing seems counter intuitive to me. Old mate has this ass about IMO.

When you watch the really fast guys paddle they lean forward for the reach but they also keep the nose up with their feet and also use the paddle angle to lift the nose of the board which gets it up on top of the water and running. The more lift, the closer to planing, the faster you go.

This bum leash lifts the tail when you lean against it in effect pushing the nose down making you slower I reckon. It also puts your body in the wrong position.

If this worked it would be from the nose where you sit back with your butt and then lean forward to paddle from the waist. This would be much more like the action in an outrigger canoe as you brace from the front with your legs. The nose leash would lift the nose and you could drive more off your legs with them forwards rather than back like this.

Maybe I just created the fastest addition to SUP. The sitting while your standing SUP.
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