Scotty Mac Short Board 8'3" Is Coming

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Scotty Mac
Scotty Mac
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28 Jan 2009 10:25am
Looking at going shorter.
Thinking about an 8'3" x 30.75" x 4.15".
In glassy conditions, shorter the better.
Might need to lay off the pizza and beer.
Can't wait to ride it.....
Piros
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28 Jan 2009 11:04am
I can feel the leg burn already ......
Scotty Mac
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28 Jan 2009 12:06pm
Thats it, be no sunday afternoon cruise but no different to surfing a short surfboard. Its easy to forget how hard that is if you don't keep up regular surfing.
Lobes
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28 Jan 2009 10:48am
By leg burn do you mean that paddling on a shorter SUP requires more leg action?

Sorry for the novice question but the shortest SUP i have ridden is 11'. Just be interested to know what the different paddling characteristics of boards around the 8'-9' mark are compared to the SUP long board style.
kiakaha
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28 Jan 2009 12:01pm
This is a Laguna Bay Board that Woogie Surfed in the Snowy last year and Won on.

It has short board Characteristics -

I think you kinda need ideal conditions for the shorter boards as it does require a little more concentration on balance but once up and surfing you can do more and generate more speed than a longer board.

This board is currently for sale


kiakaha
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28 Jan 2009 12:41pm
This is the Laguna Bay Board

9'0 x 27" x 4"



Short Board Nose


Fin Set up - Quad for better balance


Tail





Scotty Mac
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28 Jan 2009 1:22pm
That's a really nice board. I couldnt ride it because of the width. I don't find my legs burn on samller boards but its definetly harder physically to ride. The conditions do need to be amost windless and afterwards you feel more tired.
I feel stiff in the calfs the next day but thats normal.
How good will it be surfing but.....
I understand its not how everbody wants to ride but I am keen as.
Piros
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28 Jan 2009 2:26pm
Lobes said...

By leg burn do you mean that paddling on a shorter SUP requires more leg action?

Sorry for the novice question but the shortest SUP i have ridden is 11'. Just be interested to know what the different paddling characteristics of boards around the 8'-9' mark are compared to the SUP long board style.



When you are on the small boards you are constantly doing minor balance adjustments , I found after about 1 to 1.5 hours I'd really feel it in the legs (pending conditions) on a glassy day you will hardly notice it , but on cross chop crap days which is all I seem to surf in lately , your feet and legs can burn like when you first started on choppy days I just sit down more on the little boards in between sets to stop that happening.

JODIE
9'0 x 27" x 4" This is the Laguna Bay Board
How much does Woogie weigh thats a bloody little board for him.
Casso
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28 Jan 2009 3:34pm
Go for it Scotty. Your 9'4" is rad but an 8'3" will go off. Pull the nose in and keep the rails thin and you'll be shreddin' like a standard shortboard.

Paddling it will be a challenge and it'll be tiring but it's a great way to keep fit and increase your balance. I've dropped another couple of kilos since I've been riding my 9'3" Naish with it's pulled in nose and performance rails.
kiakaha
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28 Jan 2009 2:56pm
Piros said...



JODIE
9'0 x 27" x 4" This is the Laguna Bay Board
How much does Woogie weigh thats a bloody little board for him.


Personally I don't think weight or height play a big roll it is more to do with skill

I'm not to sure on his weight back then but he normally averages around 88 - 90 odd he is just on 6 ft he is trying to get back to race weight for Molokai this year.

Woogie comes from a short board back ground so he fells more comfortable on a shorter board unless LD racing - he is slowly doing more LB surfing and enjoys it.

I will hunt down a snap shot of him hitting the lip on this board - it was in Pacific Long boarder a few issues back.
62mac
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28 Jan 2009 2:46pm
That was a great shot,whacking the lip on the light blue board if i recall correctly!

mac
kiakaha
kiakaha
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28 Jan 2009 4:31pm
This was from the Pacific Long boarder Mag Vol 12 No 1.

Event CJ Mc Alister Winter Surfing Festival


kiakaha
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28 Jan 2009 4:35pm
62mac said...

That was a great shot,whacking the lip on the light blue board if i recall correctly!

mac


Different shot - but I like that one better (Blue Board) I also have that somewhere
is it this one??




kiakaha
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28 Jan 2009 6:14pm
Should also mention that this board is hand shaped and designed by our very own Stuart Campbell.

I will try and get some info from Woogie on how well it surfs.

Brooko
Brooko
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28 Jan 2009 5:27pm
Good work Scotty, sounds similar size to the one I am getting off Rod (boardbumps) He is sending it next tuesday Maybe have a chat with him about the workings of a small board, sure seems to know what his talking about.

Yes the bevvies & pizza are a problem
Scotty Mac
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28 Jan 2009 7:35pm
Nice board stuey.
62mac
62mac
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28 Jan 2009 6:19pm
Yep thats the shot I was talking about! Sheer Power and drive!It looks a lot better in the mag"

Those guy's up Noosa way know how to make great longboards and by the look of those photo's ,make damm hot SUP! IMO


mac
DavidJohn
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29 Jan 2009 9:28am
Scotty, you may find this vid interesting.

DJ

Ben dover
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29 Jan 2009 11:34am
Anyone else notice the rail changing shape at about 1/3 from the tail....

U can see it if u pause it at 1:14
DavidJohn
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29 Jan 2009 6:54pm
Ben dover said...

Anyone else notice the rail changing shape at about 1/3 from the tail....

U can see it if u pause it at 1:14


Yeah I noticed that and it's on a lot of their new boards.

I think they're called 'Stingers'..Well that's what I've always called them.

They act a bit like a flyer but work (help the board turn) without needing to get your rear foot right back on the tail to turn.

I'm not a fan of them myself..but it is good that they're only suttle and not real chunky like most do.

DJ
Brooko
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29 Jan 2009 8:18pm
I rate subtle hips & flyers on boards, they give rapid acceleration exiting turns.
Scotty Mac
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29 Jan 2009 10:13pm
Thanks DJ,
The no1 rider in warnambool is looking to buy one of these....
boardbumps
boardbumps
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30 Jan 2009 9:54am
Yes they are called stingers, first introduced by Ben Aipa in the 70's, Ben also taught Mark Richards how to shape and is one of the north shore legends.

Rod
DavidJohn
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3 Feb 2009 11:49am
Scotty (and Rod) you might like this cool vid showing this new board shaping machine.

.. www.surfline.com/video/featured-clips/how-it-works-the-shaping-machine_22015 ..

It's a little slow to load so leave it run and come back to it.. I though it was pretty interesting.

DJ
Scotty Mac
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3 Feb 2009 9:19pm
Yeah good one bIG dADDY.
Apparently the XPS foam is not available so my next board will be by hand again.
Bit shorter will mean a bit easier....
boardbumps
boardbumps
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4 Feb 2009 9:34am
Scotty just leave XPS extruded styrofoam alone. I have had plenty of practise with this stuff. All it does is delaminate. That is the short answer.

If you want a better explanation ask.

Rod
boardbumps
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4 Feb 2009 10:19am
DJ that vid loaded pretty fast for me, sounds like it might have been the 5 axis one that Nev and Firewire were using on the Gold Coast before they moved to Asia.

I have access to a Shop Bot CNC machine locally, about 3 mins from home. I don't use it. The owner wants $100 per shape and he reckons that he is free to use whatever file anyone puts into his system.

Apart from that I only use EPS foam and hot wire out the blanks myself from a large block. They are exactly what I want for the rocker and most of the thickness ( I fine tune the ends). I have to increase the blank thickness by a minimum of 6mm to allow for positioning variation in the machine and allow the cutting heads to have something to cut. This decreases my blank yield from a block of foam.

I am one of the few shapers left that can actually take a raw un preshaped urethane blank and free shape a board from it. Most of the young crew today are basically rail turners and only "shape" preshapes.

Shaping V and concave is not that hard, either is planshaping and shaping rails. Then again I made my first board when I was 12 years old, which is now my eldest boys age.

Rod
boardbumps
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4 Feb 2009 10:21am
Scotty if your interested PM me and I'll let you in on a trade, shaping software, secret for eps blanks.

Rod
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