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rockmagnet
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17 Jan 2014 2:01pm
I found this quote from Laceys Lane in another post that I did not want to hijack so I'm starting a new post here on the subject. Here is his quote

"- I'm not sure any sup belongs in any decent surf little lone a 12'6".-

This not taken out of context and I took it at face value and felt that I had to respond.
I have surfed for over 50 years on all kind of boards and now I surf a SUP.
I ride what I want, were I want and when I want. Nobody has the right to tell me what I should or should not be riding. Personally I am surprised and disappointed at what seems to be a divisive statement.
hilly
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17 Jan 2014 12:53pm
Just came in from a sup in decent (actually way better than decent) surf. Had a ball. Surf what you want but follow da rules.
stm
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17 Jan 2014 4:45pm
hilly said..

Just came in from a sup in decent (actually way better than decent) surf. Had a ball. Surf what you want but follow da rules.


Was that at Yallingup , I've been watching on swellnet , looks like fun
SP
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17 Jan 2014 5:26pm
What a **** thread.... So I'm hijacking it to try and make it positive...

Lacey is a champ.... We all know he has had some bad luck of late.

I Don't know if he needs it, he certainly didn't ask for it but the lb boys are putting there long arms in their short pockets and giving up their beer money for a mate that needs a hand.

So do some good from behind your keyboards...

62mac said..

OK account opened so start banking.

BSB 124-086
ACCOUNT NUMBER 22113749

Acc Name - Mr Martin Andrew Coleman

This account will be closed in 2 weeks so hurry up and rip into it

many thanks team


Thank you in advance for your kindness...

ausiet
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17 Jan 2014 5:48pm
Not too sure what your talking about SP, or why you think this thread is *****.

Anyway, back to the topic???.

I agree Rockmag. I have found some prone riders in the surf lineup less than accommodating when it comes to SUPs.

Quite rarely, but when they ark up about surfing in "their" area, they can get quite upset and unable to reason (or even mount a coherent argument)
as to why SUPs must not attempt to catch a wave on their turf.

SP
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17 Jan 2014 5:54pm
Na mate, your right just skip over the point.... And continue on as you are.....

**** thread cause he quoted someone from another thread and started a thread by having a shot at him....

And Lacey has had a few medical probs lately and the people who can from the lb forum are helping out in a small way, we were asking if any in here would like to do the same. Ie help a fellow surfer out... Mac asked weeks ago but the response was piss poor and as he is closing the account soon so I was just making a bit of a last minute plea for a bit of kindness.

But no prob if you don't want to just continue on...
62mac
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17 Jan 2014 5:58pm
Agree with SP.
supallday
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17 Jan 2014 6:00pm
I took LL quote as taking the piss.. Not sure why you need to make a thread directly having a go at the guys comment..
Chris_M
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17 Jan 2014 6:06pm
As somebody who rides both shortboards and SUPs in the waves I reckon (like it or not) the SUPs need to go out of their way to show that they are considerate of the rest of the surfers. Nearly all surfers groan on the inside when they see a SUP rider coming out, and they are watching you, gradually brewing internal rage each time you get a wave ahead of them in the line up.

I know some of you hate to hear this.

My rules (when SUPing):
Sit down on the board when waiting for a set.
Call some surfers into the set waves and hoot them
Let waves (or entire sets) go through, even if you could catch them
The ones you really want to catch - paddle early for and get in the take off spot first, so everyone else knows there is no point going for it.
Attempt friendly small talk, and don't take it personally if they diss you.
Try not to run anybody over!

OR

Go surf a peak that is too fat for shortboarders, but excellent for SUPing (this is my fave).


I know there is a fairly strong brigade of blokes who think nobody has the right to tell them where to surf, but if you act like a bit of a prick, the general hatred of SUP riders in the surf grows, so cheers for that.


Red thumb away if you must, but I think some of you might need to hear this

ausiet
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17 Jan 2014 6:16pm
Thanks Chris.

I'll take that on board.
RJK
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17 Jan 2014 8:18pm
Chris_M said...
As somebody who rides both shortboards and SUPs in the waves I reckon (like it or not) the SUPs need to go out of their way to show that they are considerate of the rest of the surfers. Nearly all surfers groan on the inside when they see a SUP rider coming out, and they are watching you, gradually brewing internal rage each time you get a wave ahead of them in the line up.

I know some of you hate to hear this.

My rules (when SUPing):
Sit down on the board when waiting for a set.
Call some surfers into the set waves and hoot them
Let waves (or entire sets) go through, even if you could catch them
The ones you really want to catch - paddle early for and get in the take off spot first, so everyone else knows there is no point going for it.
Attempt friendly small talk, and don't take it personally if they diss you.
Try not to run anybody over!

OR

Go surf a peak that is too fat for shortboarders, but excellent for SUPing (this is my fave).


I know there is a fairly strong brigade of blokes who think nobody has the right to tell them where to surf, but if you act like a bit of a prick, the general hatred of SUP riders in the surf grows, so cheers for that.


Red thumb away if you must, but I think some of you might need to hear this




Best post on this forum to date. I do the exact same, well said
surfanimal
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17 Jan 2014 9:28pm
RJK said..

Chris_M said...
As somebody who rides both shortboards and SUPs in the waves I reckon (like it or not) the SUPs need to go out of their way to show that they are considerate of the rest of the surfers. Nearly all surfers groan on the inside when they see a SUP rider coming out, and they are watching you, gradually brewing internal rage each time you get a wave ahead of them in the line up.

I know some of you hate to hear this.

My rules (when SUPing):
Sit down on the board when waiting for a set.
Call some surfers into the set waves and hoot them
Let waves (or entire sets) go through, even if you could catch them
The ones you really want to catch - paddle early for and get in the take off spot first, so everyone else knows there is no point going for it.
Attempt friendly small talk, and don't take it personally if they diss you.
Try not to run anybody over!

OR

Go surf a peak that is too fat for shortboarders, but excellent for SUPing (this is my fave).


I know there is a fairly strong brigade of blokes who think nobody has the right to tell them where to surf, but if you act like a bit of a prick, the general hatred of SUP riders in the surf grows, so cheers for that.


Red thumb away if you must, but I think some of you might need to hear this




Best post on this forum to date. I do the exact same, well said


Totally agree !
Sparx
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17 Jan 2014 9:30pm
Dodgy way to start a thread. Came across as an attack on Lacey from where I sit. Been a million of these threads in the past and they serve no other purpose than to muddy the waters. Chumming for Trolls is another way to look at it.
My two cents for what it is worth....they hate us cos we catch the waves that they cant and they hate us even more cos we catch the waves that they can.
Conduct yourself safely and respect the rights of those around you....everything else is bull****!!
Cheers
Sparx
NewScotty
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17 Jan 2014 6:43pm
Just make sure you guys and girls wear leg ropes in the surf.
TheGoodDr
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17 Jan 2014 9:16pm
I try to stay nearer shore at my local than the prone surfers, then take what they don't catch coz I don't necessarily need set waves to have fun.
No need to sit down, let waves go or even talk if I don't want too, although there's lots of that.
I know this wouldn't work for all breaks but it's well received by the proners.

Sure there's the haters, but they get laughed at by many of the other proners.

What goes around..................the real haters are a few mal riders who went through the same thing 20 years ago

I'm seeing a real shift in hate now that the loggers are moving in
NewScotty
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17 Jan 2014 6:50pm
^^^^^He's taking about you Mac
TWs
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17 Jan 2014 9:46pm
Trouble is you go your own way & find a bank to yourself, next thing everyone paddles over to you, cos they have seen you catching everything.
chrispy
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17 Jan 2014 7:52pm
TWs said...
Trouble is you go your own way & find a bank to yourself, next thing everyone paddles over to you, cos they have seen you catching everything.


Now your taking the piss....I find it the other way day in day out...and knee paddlers...I have had this rant before....

To the op....you you are a hypocrite...by starting this thread it is you,who is starting a **** fight. Are you lonely and in need of attention?
hilly
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17 Jan 2014 7:57pm
stm said...
hilly said..

Just came in from a sup in decent (actually way better than decent) surf. Had a ball. Surf what you want but follow da rules.


Was that at Yallingup , I've been watching on swellnet , looks like fun


No a little further south about twice the size.
Even the tow ins followed the rules and left
Must admit my main issues are with jetskis rather than surfers.
rockmagnet
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17 Jan 2014 10:01pm
My apologies to Lace for the controversy that this post has caused and it is great to see others leap to your defence.It is not meant as a personal attack on yourself and you have my best wishes in your recovery.
Despite my best attempts not to get in anyones way out in the surf and I have always allowed surfers and others to get their fair share of waves and have always tried to do the right thing out there, I have on several occasions been attacked quite vehemently without cause by surfers who were not even surfing near me.
The comment certainly touched a nerve and I felt the need to respond. Anyway, Lace made a comment and got a little flac and I responded and got a little flac. I thought the post was valid.
Anyway , doesn't matter, I'm in awe of young surfers doing their radical moves or nimble toe'd long boarders doing classy cool rides. I just feel I have the right to enjoy the waves with all the rest wether they be surfers or goat boats or whatever as long as we all respect each other and look out for each other.(not like Cartman)
husq2100
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17 Jan 2014 10:28pm
laceys lane
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18 Jan 2014 12:17am
i must remember to put a disclaimer in next time- not to be taken seriously

Weekendwarrior
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18 Jan 2014 11:01am
Chris_M said...
As somebody who rides both shortboards and SUPs in the waves I reckon (like it or not) the SUPs need to go out of their way to show that they are considerate of the rest of the surfers. Nearly all surfers groan on the inside when they see a SUP rider coming out, and they are watching you, gradually brewing internal rage each time you get a wave ahead of them in the line up.

I know some of you hate to hear this.

My rules (when SUPing):
Sit down on the board when waiting for a set.
Call some surfers into the set waves and hoot them
Let waves (or entire sets) go through, even if you could catch them
The ones you really want to catch - paddle early for and get in the take off spot first, so everyone else knows there is no point going for it.
Attempt friendly small talk, and don't take it personally if they diss you.
Try not to run anybody over!

OR

Go surf a peak that is too fat for shortboarders, but excellent for SUPing (this is my fave).


I know there is a fairly strong brigade of blokes who think nobody has the right to tell them where to surf, but if you act like a bit of a prick, the general hatred of SUP riders in the surf grows, so cheers for that.


Red thumb away if you must, but I think some of you might need to hear this



totally agree with you Chris but I think a lot of the problems that happen in the surf are from riders that haven't surfed before and think paddle boarding is an easier way to go surfing. That maybe true but the problem with that is they don't know the broader rules of surfing either ( dropping in ect)
Don't get me wrong people have to learn somewhere but start with the basic with a surfboard and learn the rules and stick to the paddle boarding in the flat water till you have at least some idea of how it works in surf.
surfinJ
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18 Jan 2014 8:15am
Chris_M said..

As somebody who rides both shortboards and SUPs in the waves I reckon (like it or not) the SUPs need to go out of their way to show that they are considerate of the rest of the surfers. Nearly all surfers groan on the inside when they see a SUP rider coming out, and they are watching you, gradually brewing internal rage each time you get a wave ahead of them in the line up.



Lacey's quote was taken out of context. Though a bit of truth is in it - thinking we can paddle out into a surfers lineup, la-di-da,
just thinking we're one of them (even though we might have spent years there on our stomach pre sup) is dreaming a bit.


SP
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18 Jan 2014 8:42am
Here's a question for the guys who ride shorties or longboards as well as sups.

Take an average 2-3 foot summers day shorties, sups and longboarders in the water. Waves for everyone.

If your rode your shorty or lb, how many waves would you get?

Then if you rode your sup, same surf, would you get more or less waves?

If the answer is more then haven't you just used the sup to jump ahead in the lineup and increase your wave count?

I'm not having a shot at anyone, I ride longboards a lot so know how easy it into get in that groove of catching wave after wave. Just a question that popped into my head and maybe a different way to look at it...

But As chris M said, no matter what you ride you have to be aware of where your surfing and others in the lineup.
oneteam
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18 Jan 2014 12:44pm
Chris_M said..

As somebody who rides both shortboards and SUPs in the waves I reckon (like it or not) the SUPs need to go out of their way to show that they are considerate of the rest of the surfers. Nearly all surfers groan on the inside when they see a SUP rider coming out, and they are watching you, gradually brewing internal rage each time you get a wave ahead of them in the line up.

I know some of you hate to hear this.

My rules (when SUPing):
Sit down on the board when waiting for a set.
Call some surfers into the set waves and hoot them
Let waves (or entire sets) go through, even if you could catch them
The ones you really want to catch - paddle early for and get in the take off spot first, so everyone else knows there is no point going for it.
Attempt friendly small talk, and don't take it personally if they diss you.
Try not to run anybody over!

OR

Go surf a peak that is too fat for shortboarders, but excellent for SUPing (this is my fave).


I know there is a fairly strong brigade of blokes who think nobody has the right to tell them where to surf, but if you act like a bit of a prick, the general hatred of SUP riders in the surf grows, so cheers for that.


Red thumb away if you must, but I think some of you might need to hear this



oneteam
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18 Jan 2014 12:44pm
Chris_M said..

As somebody who rides both shortboards and SUPs in the waves I reckon (like it or not) the SUPs need to go out of their way to show that they are considerate of the rest of the surfers. Nearly all surfers groan on the inside when they see a SUP rider coming out, and they are watching you, gradually brewing internal rage each time you get a wave ahead of them in the line up.

I know some of you hate to hear this.

My rules (when SUPing):
Sit down on the board when waiting for a set.
Call some surfers into the set waves and hoot them
Let waves (or entire sets) go through, even if you could catch them
The ones you really want to catch - paddle early for and get in the take off spot first, so everyone else knows there is no point going for it.
Attempt friendly small talk, and don't take it personally if they diss you.
Try not to run anybody over!

OR

Go surf a peak that is too fat for shortboarders, but excellent for SUPing (this is my fave).


I know there is a fairly strong brigade of blokes who think nobody has the right to tell them where to surf, but if you act like a bit of a prick, the general hatred of SUP riders in the surf grows, so cheers for that.


Red thumb away if you must, but I think some of you might need to hear this



62mac
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18 Jan 2014 9:48am
oneteam said..

Chris_M said..

As somebody who rides both shortboards and SUPs in the waves I reckon (like it or not) the SUPs need to go out of their way to show that they are considerate of the rest of the surfers. Nearly all surfers groan on the inside when they see a SUP rider coming out, and they are watching you, gradually brewing internal rage each time you get a wave ahead of them in the line up.

I know some of you hate to hear this.

My rules (when SUPing):
Sit down on the board when waiting for a set.
Call some surfers into the set waves and hoot them
Let waves (or entire sets) go through, even if you could catch them
The ones you really want to catch - paddle early for and get in the take off spot first, so everyone else knows there is no point going for it.
Attempt friendly small talk, and don't take it personally if they diss you.
Try not to run anybody over!

OR

Go surf a peak that is too fat for shortboarders, but excellent for SUPing (this is my fave).


I know there is a fairly strong brigade of blokes who think nobody has the right to tell them where to surf, but if you act like a bit of a prick, the general hatred of SUP riders in the surf grows, so cheers for that.


Red thumb away if you must, but I think some of you might need to hear this





oneteam
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18 Jan 2014 1:35pm
oneteam said..

Chris_M said..

As somebody who rides both shortboards and SUPs in the waves I reckon (like it or not) the SUPs need to go out of their way to show that they are considerate of the rest of the surfers. Nearly all surfers groan on the inside when they see a SUP rider coming out, and they are watching you, gradually brewing internal rage each time you get a wave ahead of them in the line up.

I know some of you hate to hear this.

My rules (when SUPing):
Sit down on the board when waiting for a set.
Call some surfers into the set waves and hoot them
Let waves (or entire sets) go through, even if you could catch them
The ones you really want to catch - paddle early for and get in the take off spot first, so everyone else knows there is no point going for it.
Attempt friendly small talk, and don't take it personally if they diss you.
Try not to run anybody over!

OR

Go surf a peak that is too fat for shortboarders, but excellent for SUPing (this is my fave).


I know there is a fairly strong brigade of blokes who think nobody has the right to tell them where to surf, but if you act like a bit of a prick, the general hatred of SUP riders in the surf grows, so cheers for that.


Red thumb away if you must, but I think some of you might need to hear this


I have to admit as a short boarder and now SUP Chris you are absolutely correct in your statement.
I try very hard to do exactly what you have just said but I am not prefect and do not always follow the rules to a tee
But as I am a local at my regular surf spot and have been for a very long time I have a question?
I started SUP ing as a way of getting me out in water more often as found the surf to be a lot of the time to be of poor
Quality and riding shortboard frustrating as waves 90% always onshore and rubbish.
A lot of people have ask me why I don't ride S/B anymore and my answer is I get just as much of a buzz form SUP as surfing but surf more often as I can have a ball in waves a surfer would struggle.
But I also want to surf quality waves as well and that is where some surfer get angry and say that that is only for the S/B.
I say I do not agree as a short SUP can get a lot out off good wave just check out some of the clips on this site.
Do I get more wave in a surf YES why ---- I see sets long before surfers (see how many waves in set)(see inside sets and waves
That surfer don't see or could catch)(outside set and probably wave that they wouldn't catch)
Yes it is big advantage and yes you do call them into waves, and give them the heads up on how many waves ,inside and outside but it doesn't take much to cause an issue as you stick out like dogs balls.
It's an no win sutuation.
stm
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18 Jan 2014 8:33pm
oneteam said..

oneteam said..

Chris_M said..

As somebody who rides both shortboards and SUPs in the waves I reckon (like it or not) the SUPs need to go out of their way to show that they are considerate of the rest of the surfers. Nearly all surfers groan on the inside when they see a SUP rider coming out, and they are watching you, gradually brewing internal rage each time you get a wave ahead of them in the line up.

I know some of you hate to hear this.

My rules (when SUPing):
Sit down on the board when waiting for a set.
Call some surfers into the set waves and hoot them
Let waves (or entire sets) go through, even if you could catch them
The ones you really want to catch - paddle early for and get in the take off spot first, so everyone else knows there is no point going for it.
Attempt friendly small talk, and don't take it personally if they diss you.
Try not to run anybody over!

OR

Go surf a peak that is too fat for shortboarders, but excellent for SUPing (this is my fave).


I know there is a fairly strong brigade of blokes who think nobody has the right to tell them where to surf, but if you act like a bit of a prick, the general hatred of SUP riders in the surf grows, so cheers for that.


Red thumb away if you must, but I think some of you might need to hear this


I have to admit as a short boarder and now SUP Chris you are absolutely correct in your statement.
I try very hard to do exactly what you have just said but I am not prefect and do not always follow the rules to a tee
But as I am a local at my regular surf spot and have been for a very long time I have a question?
I started SUP ing as a way of getting me out in water more often as found the surf to be a lot of the time to be of poor
Quality and riding shortboard frustrating as waves 90% always onshore and rubbish.
A lot of people have ask me why I don't ride S/B anymore and my answer is I get just as much of a buzz form SUP as surfing but surf more often as I can have a ball in waves a surfer would struggle.
But I also want to surf quality waves as well and that is where some surfer get angry and say that that is only for the S/B.
I say I do not agree as a short SUP can get a lot out off good wave just check out some of the clips on this site.
Do I get more wave in a surf YES why ---- I see sets long before surfers (see how many waves in set)(see inside sets and waves
That surfer don't see or could catch)(outside set and probably wave that they wouldn't catch)
Yes it is big advantage and yes you do call them into waves, and give them the heads up on how many waves ,inside and outside but it doesn't take much to cause an issue as you stick out like dogs balls.
It's an no win sutuation.



I'm much the same as oneteam , surfed for 25+ yrs at my local . Now l SUP for the same reasons and being a chippie , the shoulders aren't to good prone these days . I recon if your not riding tankers and know the rules , when the is surf decent , well who cares No one can tell you what to do , just don't be an arse about it .
This is a ****house topic If your worried about what others are thinking about you , and it upsets you , well maybe you should take up golf or lawn bowls
Chris_M
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18 Jan 2014 7:34pm
Yeah i realise that many SUP riders have paid their dues, and technology its changing, boards are getting shorter, shoulders ain't what they used to be, and stoke factor is going through the roof. I get it too. The cut off between when its SUP time and when its short board time is getting blurrier. Im pumped for some great waves at the crack of dawn tomorrow, and guess what? My mind is on SUPing. Even though i know the point will be firing, ill be hitting my secret spot on my SUP, getting 5 times as many waves, but on a spot that no short boarders even bother with. 50-100m lefts and right a frame, no crowds.

I'm having a good time, but always try to make sure every body else its enjoying their day too. Not cause I'm a pussy but because i think good vibes are better than bad vibes
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