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SUP race displacement v planing hull article.

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Created by billboard > 9 months ago, 25 May 2011
billboard
QLD, 2817 posts
25 May 2011 8:45PM
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Even for someone like me who is new to racing/offshore cruising I found this to be a very unbiaised article written by people who actually seem to know what they are talking about - it's a great read.

zenwaterman.blogspot.com/2009/11/sup-race-board-comparison-planing-vs.html

Leroy13
VIC, 1174 posts
25 May 2011 9:51PM
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I don't think I'll ever be an offshore racer but this link is a fantastic read, and very enlightening regarding design. I rode a 14 ft fanatic on the weekend and thought that I was going faster the further back that I stood, but balanced it out flat as that is what I normally do . I think that an element of their design means that you can achieve better speed when you get it up on "the plane" as in boating terms. This defies the principle of my 12 ft lake rider which goes faster when evenly balanced in the water. Brilliant find Billboard and recommended reading for anybody who sups.

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
25 May 2011 10:14PM
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good find billboard. the boards i like are the ones that go from piecing/displacement to flat/planing very quickly. i feel you get the best of both worlds. the fanatic 14' in a dw run, i would be back 10" from the handle and even more sometimes. the displacement nose is still good to jump the bumps.

my dc 14' probably goes to flat quicker so on that board i'm only about 5" or so back and further back at times too.

on dw runs i try to get back as far as i can. after reading a fair amount of that topic i now know i why i felt it was better.

both the fanatic and the new dc 14' er are great for doing this and they still paddle well from those more back positions. you don't feel like your dropping the tail or anything.

being able to stand back, enjoy the ride and still be able to chase down bumps is the ants pants imo.
cheers

rahams
NSW, 544 posts
25 May 2011 10:53PM
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ive been on the 14 fanatic for a while now im on or in front of the handle off runs im way infront chasing runs?

laceys lane said...

good find billboard. the boards i like are the ones that go from piecing/displacement to flat/planing very quickly. i feel you get the best of both worlds. the fanatic 14' in a dw run, i would be back 10" from the handle and even more sometimes. the displacement nose is still good to jump the bumps.

my dc 14' probably goes to flat quicker so on that board i'm only about 5" or so back and further back at times too.

on dw runs i try to get back as far as i can. after reading a fair amount of that topic i now know i why i felt it was better.

both the fanatic and the new dc 14' er are great for doing this and they still paddle well from those more back positions. you don't feel like your dropping the tail or anything.

being able to stand back, enjoy the ride and still be able to chase down bumps is the ants pants imo.
cheers


laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
25 May 2011 11:19PM
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rahams said...

ive been on the 14 fanatic for a while now im on or in front of the handle off runs im way infront chasing runs?
laceys lane said...

good find billboard. the boards i like are the ones that go from piecing/displacement to flat/planing very quickly. i feel you get the best of both worlds. the fanatic 14' in a dw run, i would be back 10" from the handle and even more sometimes. the displacement nose is still good to jump the bumps.

my dc 14' probably goes to flat quicker so on that board i'm only about 5" or so back and further back at times too.

on dw runs i try to get back as far as i can. after reading a fair amount of that topic i now know i why i felt it was better.

both the fanatic and the new dc 14' er are great for doing this and they still paddle well from those more back positions. you don't feel like your dropping the tail or anything.

being able to stand back, enjoy the ride and still be able to chase down bumps is the ants pants imo.
cheers





what can i say. noel, you have the carbon, i had the wood veneer- that could be some difference/

i just enjoy the ride better back a bit. i don't feel like i'm losng anything. i feel like i'm getting more links then ever. i'm not saying its the only place to stand.

it takes me, a few minutes to find the right spot , amost to the 1/2 inch. when ever i stop for a rest or i'm waiting, when i start again, its takes time to find the spot again. also that spot changes as the conditions change as they do on every dw paddle. if i get 3 or4 links i get back, but i might need to get back up the front quickly when the run finishs. thats the good thing about 14 'er- so many places to stand. i reckon a rudder on a 14 would be really hard to set up and not get in the way

the better the conditions, the more i stand back i think
cheers
ps back to the game


OG SUP
VIC, 3516 posts
25 May 2011 11:19PM
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Great find BB,

Awesome read

Phill

boylos
NSW, 769 posts
26 May 2011 9:56AM
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Great fine , and Robert from blue planet surf is a top bloke .Had the pleasure of meeting him last year at one of there demo days in Hawaii .

Boylos



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