SUP handle advice/opinions

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BoofHead65
BoofHead65
QLD
52 posts
QLD, 52 posts
4 Dec 2012 6:23pm
Have commenced my Kaholo 14 build and hope to have the hull assembled next week. i have purchased a fin and fin box and now my next decision to make is the handle.

So far, my options seem to be raised kayak style handle/s eg
www.jervisbaykayaks.com/parts-and-spares/sealect-designs/kayak-carry-handle

1 Kayak handle in the middle. Would seem to be the most comfortable option but might get in the way??
2 kayak handles. 1 on each rail at the balance point.

Or,
a flush mounted hand grip like most of the surfing style SUP,s seem to have.
http://www.foamez.com/future-sup-handle-p-781.html.

The flush mounted type is cheapest and out of the way but not sure how comfortable this type would be on a 14' , 15kg craft.

Any thoughts/opinions?
Cheers



DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
4 Dec 2012 7:58pm
IMO.. Go the strap like what Surftech do.

DJ
surfer56
surfer56
146 posts
146 posts
4 Dec 2012 5:13pm
DavidJohn said...
IMO.. Go the strap like what Surftech do.

DJ


2nd that
ShireSUP
ShireSUP
NSW
982 posts
NSW, 982 posts
4 Dec 2012 10:32pm
3rd that, I have a Angulo Shaka AST with the insert handle and it weighs more than 15 kgs...........and its a pain in the.....................fingers!!!!
supvader
supvader
VIC
96 posts
VIC, 96 posts
4 Dec 2012 11:36pm
Hi Boofhead i think I may have what you need, i just fitted one of these in my 9'3 PSH for a trial. I don't think there are many of these in Aus yet, I managed to get hold of a few of these on a promo basis to try and to show whoever is interested in a handle that your toes don't get stuck in or under as it is a retractable flush mounded handle.
These are made from similar material as fin boxes, they have shear strength load of 473 lbs and tensile strength load of 840 lbs.
Check out this link

and photos

DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
5 Dec 2012 12:54am
The long strap in the center is the best way to go IMO.. Most of the newer Barks and the new Jamie Mitchell boards use it.

Like this.. http://www.joebarkpaddleboards.com/boards/view/16/STANDUP+COMPETITOR

That lift up handle like shown above is also very good but you need to make sure it's in the perfect spot so it's balanced.. and I'm not sure how easy they are to buy.

The long strap lets you move your hand an inch or two each way till it's balanced perfectly.

DJ
BoofHead65
BoofHead65
QLD
52 posts
QLD, 52 posts
5 Dec 2012 8:45am
I went ahead and purchased a kayak handle to place in the middle.
I contacted Liftsup last week regarding Aussie dealers but no reply. Supvader, will you be sellin in Oz?
Dj, the long handle makes sense for a complete noob like me. At this stage I can only guesstimate a balance point.

Solution: add support blocks along centre stringer to provide a range of mounting options.

Cheers.

Next purchase, deck grip
jt737
jt737
QLD
418 posts
QLD, 418 posts
5 Dec 2012 6:38pm
My build here:
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/Kaholo-14-build/?SearchTerms=Kaholo

Keep it simple! Perhaps some wood under your deck that you can use self tapping screws for a longer centre strap or for a handle on the edge of the deck.
I used a flush mounted grip from Shapers on the Gold Coast and after deck was added, routed into the block of cedar I had secured to the deck underside and then dropped in the handgrip, sealing all with epoxy. You can roughly find the centre of gravity before the deck is added remembering the fin and fin box weight, which most companies seem to forget!
Contact me if I can help.
BoofHead65
BoofHead65
QLD
52 posts
QLD, 52 posts
5 Dec 2012 8:16pm
jt737 said...
My build here:
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/Kaholo-14-build/?SearchTerms=Kaholo

Keep it simple! Perhaps some wood under your deck that you can use self tapping screws for a longer centre strap or for a handle on the edge of the deck.
I used a flush mounted grip from Shapers on the Gold Coast and after deck was added, routed into the block of cedar I had secured to the deck underside and then dropped in the handgrip, sealing all with epoxy. You can roughly find the centre of gravity before the deck is added remembering the fin and fin box weight, which most companies seem to forget!
Contact me if I can help.



Whereabouts do you paddle?
Looks like bulimba are in Bris.
supvader
supvader
VIC
96 posts
VIC, 96 posts
6 Dec 2012 12:38am
Once the center of weight is found, including the fins weight as JT mentioned and the liftsup fitted accordingly, it's hard to go past if you have to carry your board long distances as your fingers don't get clamped between the board and the strap, or if you have to climb stairs or steep walking tracks, as the liftsup is a ridged handle, with a slight twitch of the wrist you can lift or drop the nose of the board to clear the stairs as you climb for example without having to lift it higher.
I have only had mine fitted for 1 week had it out 3 times and would not be without one.
The strap handles are not flush mounted unless you use JT's method of routing into the timber which is a "why didn't i think of that" moment for me and may be the best for your situation, but i have seen damage done to a board when it was strapped on the roof racks on top of a board that had this strap, not nice for the owner, it was a surf sup not one of the bigger boards that you may not stack on top of each other anyway.
Hope the project goes well, good on you for having a crack, would love to see some shots of the final result.

Pete.
robdog
robdog
VIC
611 posts
VIC, 611 posts
6 Dec 2012 7:20pm
supvader said...
.... but i have seen damage done to a board when it was strapped on the roof racks on top of a board that had this strap, not nice for the owner .....

Pete.



Ditto.
Looks good Pete, look forward to testing it out.
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