Hey Dean,

Looks like fun, I am up for it!

I was talking to a specialist about a brace to protect my ribs for when i get back into surfing for the first few months.

I intend to get back into flat water training in 2 weeks just paddling on the Barwon for excercise every day on the PSH12gun.

I spoke to Nesha and she is very keen to have a go a kiteboarding.

Thanks again for the tour of the Big Boys Shed.

Phill

Hey Lacey,

Dean (Yoda) makes the board the foil the lot he is very resourceful

Phill

Hi Lacey,
Foilboarding on the tow differs from water skiing in a few ways, on skis its 2 dimensional, on a foil there is a third dimension, the vertical, that is most important to learn how to control.
That's why I say it's like flying a low flying an aircraft, you haven't got much altitude to play with.
That's what is important in making the shaft hight, to short you have little "altitude" to fly, & too long.....well, havent realy made a long shaft, I think you could imagine how hard you'd crash from a hight ! It's not just a fall.... the foil can hook into the water bringing you to a very sudden halt from the feet, & the rest of the body tends to want to keep going....gives the neck a bit of a stretch A human controlled foil is not something you want to use to break a speed record on. Although the sailing speed record has recently been broken on foils, check out "Hydrotere" now thats what I call a wild ride!!!!
To ride a foil requires finesse, good ballance, & a good tow driver that knows what speed to go, I think we used to pop out of the water at quite low speed, 10 or 15 k's? At slow speed you get more time to adjust the angle of attack to start & then maintain "flight"
I keep refering to flight because that is the main sensation I would feel, the guys in the zodiac would be getting bounced around in the chop, the foil feels none.
I havent done any powder skiing but yes, I think the sensation could be similar

I would be super keen to have a go. My mates jetski would be perfect. I can picture the crashes and you would hit the water really hard and fast.

I got 160cm+ of powder in Hakuba Japan a couple years ago and I would imagine it would feel very similar. As you slow down to a speed the foil or snowboard can't maintain lift and you would slowly start to sink.

I'd rather sink and be swimming in water rather than neck deep powder though (near impossible)!

This vid of Laird has been around a while but does explain some of the whys and wherefores:

Bnaccas said...

I would be super keen to have a go. My mates jetski would be perfect. I can picture the crashes and you would hit the water really hard and fast.

I got 160cm+ of powder in Hakuba Japan a couple years ago and I would imagine it would feel very similar. As you slow down to a speed the foil or snowboard can't maintain lift and you would slowly start to sink.

I'd rather sink and be swimming in water rather than neck deep powder though (near impossible)!

Hey Brendon, when I have a new one going I'll give you a buz.
The thing with foiling is the densty of the water, far higher than powder. Flying in it, as you could imagine, if you suddenly take the weight off the front foot & lean back when going quick.......the foil will literaly blast out of the water skyward. (thats what the guy did in 1 of my shots) It's one of the easyest tricks to do on them because thats what they naturaly want to do. Your continualy keeping or pushing with the front leg, the foil at least 6" under, or the funs over...very smartly. The speeds required are quite low, so the "go downs" are not real hard
And the speed required to fly is proportional to the wing loading, or foil area/body weight, (so phils foil will need to be larger & yours smaller or tow at the appropriate speed to generate the lift needed)
If you watch video you will notice the front leg bent compensating & balancing the "lift" as its being generated by the blades speed through the water & angle of attack.
Riding waves is done the same as a dolphin, flying "IN" a wave in the right position of the pressure gradient, its really amazing when you use this power of an unbroken wave for the first time, in a very different way than your've been used to doing for many years of "sliding down a wet wall" due to gravity. Your now sliding down an under water pressure wave, as the dolphins love to do in front of a ship.
(I've even had them doing it under my standup board while I've been riding a wave)
An example of what can be surfed...a pair of slalom sailboard fins stuck together. The anhedral or tips down, is so they dont ventilate when leaning over to turn....the last thing you want is a tip comming too close to the surface



so whats your next project hey Brendon...LOL

a pair of old sub fins will do......anything that will float for a board, a foiled shaft, a moldy pair of snow board bindings that need a wash....& your mates jet ski...its a heap of fun
I even had one bolted to a sailboard once.....sail powered

lacey said...

Bnaccas said...

I would be super keen to have a go. My mates jetski would be perfect. I can picture the crashes and you would hit the water really hard and fast.

I got 160cm+ of powder in Hakuba Japan a couple years ago and I would imagine it would feel very similar. As you slow down to a speed the foil or snowboard can't maintain lift and you would slowly start to sink.

I'd rather sink and be swimming in water rather than neck deep powder though (near impossible)!

gee i missed not going to japan this year, that place has most insane powder, seems like ever 3 rd day is epic

ssshhhh... do not speak of Japan powder, too many people there already..... lace you would love the head monster 88s i am buying this week for strawberry fields in feb, almost as good as picking up a dale 8'10"

jed said...

lacey said...

Bnaccas said...

I would be super keen to have a go. My mates jetski would be perfect. I can picture the crashes and you would hit the water really hard and fast.

I got 160cm+ of powder in Hakuba Japan a couple years ago and I would imagine it would feel very similar. As you slow down to a speed the foil or snowboard can't maintain lift and you would slowly start to sink.

I'd rather sink and be swimming in water rather than neck deep powder though (near impossible)!

gee i missed not going to japan this year, that place has most insane powder, seems like ever 3 rd day is epic

ssshhhh... do not speak of Japan powder, too many people there already..... lace you would love the head monster 88s i am buying this week for strawberry fields in feb, almost as good as picking up a dale 8'10"

mate sounds good, i've got the red and black mojo 90's. blueberry fields is a nice , was semi secret