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teatrea
teatrea
QLD
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QLD, 4177 posts
27 Jun 2010 10:32am
Im wanting to modify my DC17 , what i want to do is shave the nose area off basically.I think it slows the board down and reduces its glide.Do you think it will make much diference?Lacey i know you have told me not to bother , but i have reduced the price on the board as much as i think i should and have had no takers , as i cant afford to buy another one im willing to try this.I think it will make the nose area more surfboard shape a bit like the SIC boards.What do ya think!Also if i was to attempt this myself what tips could you give me on how to go about it.

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cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
27 Jun 2010 10:57am
I don't think you'll get better glide by shaving the nose down, I would have thought that you'd have less because you'd be taking water line length away in making the flat bottom. I am a bigger fan of displacement shape forward than large flats.

As for doing it it would be a bit tricky because you have to get the skin off with out damaging the foam and have an area large enough to fair the changes in to the rest of the board, about 30cm around the area your changing. The glassing is the easy part.

I'd talk to Dale to see what he thinks about it and if he thinks it will make a differance, in just finish a board with Dale I would say he's pretty open to talking to people about board shapes and ideas on his boards.

The biggest issue is if some thing goes wrong the board could be cactus.
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
27 Jun 2010 11:03am
See what Dale thinks.. I don't think it will be worth it even though I'd be thinking the same thing as you because I prefer the planning shape nose section rather than the deep displacement shape.. I'm no expert but I think doing what you want to do will slow the board down.

DJ
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
27 Jun 2010 11:16am
Pictures just loaded better (or my hang over subsided a little) can we get a front on shot? Guessing from the side shot it looks like the v of the bow carries back into the board a fair ways, if it does I don't think you could go a flat in the nose you'd have to have some amount of v to fair it in and i'm not sure if it would fair in all that well.
Downwinder
Downwinder
QLD
2095 posts
QLD, 2095 posts
27 Jun 2010 11:36am
G'day Teatrea
I recon just cut your losses if you cant sell it just keep it as a spear trying to re-shape the nose may wreck its glide? Just save up ya money & buy another one that you think is right for you. There is nothing worse than paddling a board you dont like no fun in that.
DW
teatrea
teatrea
QLD
4177 posts
QLD, 4177 posts
27 Jun 2010 12:29pm
Downwinder said...

G'day Teatrea
I recon just cut your losses if you cant sell it just keep it as a spear trying to re-shape the nose may wreck its glide? Just save up ya money & buy another one that you think is right for you. There is nothing worse than paddling a board you dont like no fun in that.
DW



Yeah your probably right , i did talk to dale he said he could do it.Might just have to save up and get one of those PSH 14FTs when they come out. Bugger it ill reduce the price again and see how i go.I think the board would be good for a Female or light Bloke.

Cheers
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
27 Jun 2010 12:33pm
If you modify it you'll just wreck it and make it completely worthless. Just cut your losses, drop the price until it sells and get a new board.

In terms of doing the work yourself, if you have to ask then you're not qualified to do the work.

An alternative is to put the board up in the rack and forget about it for a few years. Start making your own boards. Develop some skills. Then revisit the DC 17 later.

Theoretically if you want to increase glide then you need a sharper nose more like a racing skull.

Just musing on the subject, essentially you're saying a highly reputed, very successful professional shaper has messed up and you're going to fix it. Bit of a big call don't you think?
teatrea
teatrea
QLD
4177 posts
QLD, 4177 posts
27 Jun 2010 12:41pm
Gorgo said...

If you modify it you'll just wreck it and make it completely worthless. Just cut your losses, drop the price until it sells and get a new board.

In terms of doing the work yourself, if you have to ask then you're not qualified to do the work.

An alternative is to put the board up in the rack and forget about it for a few years. Start making your own boards. Develop some skills. Then revisit the DC 17 later.

Theoretically if you want to increase glide then you need a sharper nose more like a racing skull.

Just musing on the subject, essentially you're saying a highly reputed, very successful professional shaper has messed up and you're going to fix it. Bit of a big call don't you think?


In know way am i suggesting Dales boards are not great quality , they are proven designs that work.This one is a lot different to the boards he is doing now , and yes it is just a theory of mine , after quite a few hours paddling it.And i didnt say i was going to fix it.
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
27 Jun 2010 2:51pm
Yeah, I know. Just pointing out the irony of it. It's a character failing of mine.
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
27 Jun 2010 3:23pm
If your thinking of price drop again it might be worth seeing if the place you get your next board from will do a trade in.
teatrea
teatrea
QLD
4177 posts
QLD, 4177 posts
27 Jun 2010 3:35pm
cRAZY Canuk said...

If your thinking of price drop again it might be worth seeing if the place you get your next board from will do a trade in.


Yeah i might try that too , i did drop the price again so its a bargain basement buy now.
It would be a really great board for the right person , just not for me.

Cheers
laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
27 Jun 2010 5:44pm
hi, i think it could work, that is for down winding in medium to big and could be alright in the flats. the latest thing seems to be displacement nose into flat as soon as possible on the boards coming out. i know a while back when billy was having ago a few of them(dc's), he was pushing for a more planing nose. still i think you might be best to see if dale might be able to do something in a trade setup or just drop the price again. i can see $300 easy to do what you are thinking
cheers
vgr
vgr
NSW
43 posts
vgr vgr
NSW, 43 posts
27 Jun 2010 7:57pm
one tip ,don't do it .there is alot to lose and no real gain from doing it .
teatrea
teatrea
QLD
4177 posts
QLD, 4177 posts
27 Jun 2010 8:12pm
laceys lane said...

hi, i think it could work, that is for down winding in medium to big and could be alright in the flats. the latest thing seems to be displacement nose into flat as soon as possible on the boards coming out. i know a while back when billy was having ago a few of them(dc's), he was pushing for a more planing nose. still i think you might be best to see if dale might be able to do something in a trade setup or just drop the price again. i can see $300 easy to do what you are thinking
cheers


Yeah Dale did mention at least a couple hundered which is a bit of a risk if it dont work ,
I liked the look of that board Jacko was on today , do you know what it was?
Adapt
Adapt
QLD
723 posts
QLD, 723 posts
27 Jun 2010 9:45pm
Hey Teatree,

I feel your pain, but i don't know if changing the shape of this board would work and there is alot to lose if it doesn't.

I think trying to sell it is definately the best option and in the mean time save your pennies. Whilst doing that have a go on other boards, figure out what you think works best for you, then go chat to Dale (DC) or Andrew (Lahuikai) and get a custom made board that suits you as an individual, don't buy a pop out shape that was made for someone else. It might take a bit longer to get that board but it will surely be worth the wait. Thats what I'm going to try and do, unless someone wants to make me a board for free hahahaha.

Cheers.
ockanui
ockanui
VIC
1321 posts
VIC, 1321 posts
27 Jun 2010 10:21pm
Hi Teatree,
I reckon you should maybe redo the nose a little more sharpen it up, then maybe the tail could be redone to form a rounded pin ish style, then it may look it bit thick so plane a thinner concave shape to it, if you could also somehow shorten the length a little and then I guess it might need to be less wide so if you can take something of the rails, and with the deck can do something with that, and then if the green colour could go, it might seem alot of work but I reckon it might work, but then it might not too, but heck worth a try? glad to be of help, jobs right mate
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