Can any one tell us how to get naish grip to stay on (or is not possiable) the glue comes away from the foam staying on the board but the foam lifts. I am cleaning the glue off with actone and recontacting the grip as it lifts but I now have the ****s and am sick of chasing my tail. Yes I did clean the board first!!

Brooko said...

Been having the same trouble Robdog put me on to stuff that has worked great

We have had problems to and found quick grip works the best.

Ben dover said...

We have had problems to and found quick grip works the best.

Yep agree with quick grip, have used it for years on pads on windsurfers. Works so well that in many cases the pads outlasted the board.

I've had my Naish camo deck grip on for about 9 months and it's still fine.

I have had a little bit of lifting where the side ramps meet the flat grip.

Here's my post showing how I fixed it.. www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=37867&SearchTerms=fixing,deck,grip

I agree Quick grip is great but ..jeez..it's messy stuff and hard to use if you're just doing a small lifted area.

The problem with the grip is that it expands and contracts with temp changes..so if you can avoid the temp extremes it should help.

DJ

yep another vote here for QuickGrip (the yellow stuff - there are different variety's these days) but yeh it is tricky to work with....you really gotta wait until it's 'tack free' or what looks like 'dry' before you push both surfaces together - if you get this wrong or do it too early it won't hold.

i am also quick gripping another naish board today suffering from this same drama.....gaaahh

Yeah, the Naish grip is a problem.

What works best (easy, quick and clean) is SUPERGLUE (some brands now comes with an application brush built in for easy application). It will mark the board surface permanently, but it is quick and easy and will always be covered with the grip of some sort.

The key is to get the edges sealed so water and sand doesn't get in and lift it further.

Once you get those edges sealed it is awesome grip!

Andrew.A

anyone with the grip lifting should go to the place of purchase and they be able to sort it out. I spoke to windgenuity today and Aidan will post something on here when he gets a chance but naish are a good company and stand by the stuff they sell. But as always the best thing to do if some thing goes wrong with some thing you brought is take it back to place of purchase.

Jacko

Aidan from Windgenuity / Naish Australia here.
As some have noted there are a bad batch of Naish Camo SUP pads on the market, unfortunately Australia gets used as a testing ground of sorts as our season is ahead of the northern hemisphere and as such the problem has not been recognised or rectified up until now.
However we, and Naish International, are finalising a solution to this. The problem batch appear to have a yellow coloured glue and the foam grip is lifting off this glue, leaving the yellow glue on the board. If you have one of these grips and it is lifting, please contact your closest (or initial) retailer for a replacement. As the problem has only just been realised stock of replacement pads are not in the country yet, but should be here very soon, but by making your Naish sup retailer aware of the fact that you are in need of a new grip now you can be assured one will be sent out for you as soon as they are available.
One final note is that this is a solution for the grips that are failing and removing the grip can be a fairly large job if there are only small areas of it lifting, so I would still suggest effecting small repairs if the problem is only minor. Kwick-grip, as many have said before me is by far the best glue for the job.
Thanks, and happy supping
Aidan

If Naish use Oz as a testing ground for their product I humbly submit my services as a test pilot should a position become available.
Jason from Jervis Bay

paul.j said...

Sure you can ride a 9'6 that is 30inch wide from nose to tail and it'll be stable but you may as well be on a 12 foot board

Bullsh1t! What makes you say that? Sounds like your biased industry opinion?

I think it's a good move by Naish to publicly state their shortcomings, the reasons behind it and how they plan to deal with it within hours of it being reported as a problem. I respect them for the infotmation.

This thread is sounding like the first ****fight for 09!

Downtheline said...

paul.j said...

Sure you can ride a 9'6 that is 30inch wide from nose to tail and it'll be stable but you may as well be on a 12 foot board

Bullsh1t! What makes you say that? Sounds like your biased industry opinion?

Well I'm not industry biased, only a newbie to the sport and can say I don't think I will be riding a board that is 30inch from nose to tail anytime soon. Sounds more like a 9'6 x 30' door to me.

Well I went to the retailer and they were open minded and helpful but at a loss to really do anything. My grip was the yellow adhesive version (board came in in the last container a couple of weeks ago) and after an hour or so mucking around with the QuickGrip realised that you really had to get the glue onto the board rather than the adhesive layer to get it to stick. So in the end I pulled the whole thing off - camo came off without a tear, adhesive released beautifully! The hard part to get off is the remaining yellow adhesive, took me more than 4 hours in front of the telly, gently warming, plastic egg slice and about a bucket of eucalyptus oil - you could drive a car down my sinuses right now.

The 9'6" looks bloody fantastic without grip on it but I'm about to cover it up with the Creatures grip I just bought - life is too short to wait for the next Naish batch I want to use the board tomorrow and enjoy it.

Hey Oompa, Starboard aren't perfect either, the factory bag for the 12'6" has the slit for the fin in the wrong place too, also the board had a defect in the tail that developed when I dropped the bloody thing off the roof of my van onto the concrete.... but the grip did stay on. Interesting that the Creatures grip has 3M logo stamped on the adhesive cover paper, got a feeling that it might actually stick.

Addressing the problem is going to be a bit of a nightmare, it really is a mongrel of a job to get the board perfectly clean to the point where they can be re-gripped, don't think the poor old retailers are going to be too happy if it falls to them.
I do commend Naish locally for responding on the forum so quickly, of course the proof will be in the pudding as to the final outcome though. Meanwhile my humble suggestion if you just bought a Naish board is NOT to stick on the factory grip, be a little understanding of the (all the) companies trying very hard to produce product in the early part of the evolution of a new sport. Just buy another grip or use some wax and get on with the fun part of your life.

JonathanC said...


Addressing the problem is going to be a bit of a nightmare, it really is a mongrel of a job to get the board perfectly clean to the point where they can be re-gripped, don't think the poor old retailers are going to be too happy if it falls to them.

Hmmmm [}:)]

The pads should be fitted at the factory or done professionally prior to delivery.

The cheapest board in the range - the 11'6 AST comes with the pads fitted.
When not fitted, these grips (11'4+) come without any openings for the Vent screw, mast plug or the carry handle. It takes a good 30 min's to fit one of these grips properly and cut out the openings by hand.

Any re-grips should be done by the supplier, not the retailer.

THis is one of the problems that arises when you get product ahead of the rest of the world, but you know what - I would way prefer to riding this product and dealing with the issues than having to watch all the new gear being ridden on the other side of the world and we cant get our hands on it!!

The boards are awesome. Naish will fix the grip. We don't live in the UK. All is good with the world!

Andrew.A

PS: A little tip on the The Naish E-bag. It is great as long as you don't have wax on the nose of your board. If it goes in slightly melted and then sticks to the foam it will shred it as you pull the board out.

shimmyshazbo said...

naish could have sent me a block of butter to use on the deck of my 9'6 and i wouldnt have cared, the board has surpassed all my expectations of performance. the starboard v naish thing will just have to be sorted out in the water, i'll be keeping a close eye out this year of comp results, i know who ive got my money on!!!!
hey so if naish uses oz as a testing ground does that mean im a naish top gun???? ha ha ha
also why are people worried about protecting solid as epoxy boards?? cover? what cover??? never used it!!! i smash and bash mine around and couldnt care less, i dont wanna look at my board in 2 years time and say it looks like i havent ridden it, your board is gunna get trashed no matter how much you look after it, just enjoy it!!!!!

Love the attitude you are right Naish knows where all the best riders are thats why we get it first, WE ARE LIKE ALL PRO!!!

Casso
There is a good chance that the grip will be the bad one all the 9'3's i got had the bad grip but the way you have put it on is sick and you might only have to replace a few bits if they come of. So you liked the 9'3 that much when you rode it you had to get one i don't blame you the board is SICK!!!!

Jacko

I was wondering why my black marble grip became so popular recently!
I rode Jacko's 9'6 up at Currumbin a while back and it went well. It has the refined surfboard shape like the C4's.

But, if you guys are struggling for grip then I have done abit of photoshopping to see what looks good for Naish's and here are the results.

Black Marble
http://www.newcastle-standup-paddlesurfing.com.au/naish 1.jpg

Lava
http://www.newcastle-standup-paddlesurfing.com.au/naish 2.jpg

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