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Longest downwinder recorded?

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Created by PeterP > 9 months ago, 15 Apr 2011
PeterP
873 posts
15 Apr 2011 1:50AM
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Chris Bertish completed 69km (42.8miles) straight downwind with winds from 15-45knots in 7h06min in Cape Town last week. He then went on to do another 40km the day after in another 5h30min - all for charity: www.dogreathingstrust.com

Now we're trying to find out if anyone has done a longer downwind run un-interupted?




DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
15 Apr 2011 7:00AM
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Great effort.. thanks for the pics.. We did one once that was about 50-60 klms.. (St Kilda to Mornington)

We have a DW run that's about 60-70 klms (Port Melb to Portsea) that we hope to do in about 3-4 hrs in a good wind..

Great to see him on the 14' Glide..

DJ

Towny
NSW, 903 posts
15 Apr 2011 7:09AM
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Whats with the knife strapped to his thigh, worried about the little toothys[}:)]
As for the longest check in with Phil DW as he regulary does 50+km just for fun i think

paul.j
QLD, 3368 posts
15 Apr 2011 8:38AM
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DavidJohn said...

Great effort.. thanks for the pics.. We did one once that was about 50-60 klms.. (St Kilda to Mornington)

We have a DW run that's about 60-70 klms (Port Melb to Portsea) that we hope to do in about 3-4 hrs in a good wind..

Great to see him on the 14' Glide..

DJ


60-70 km in 3-4hours? Do know how fast that is!!!!!?

Simondo
VIC, 8024 posts
15 Apr 2011 8:59AM
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Laird and Dave did Oahu to Kauai'i I believe. 110km++...

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
15 Apr 2011 9:00AM
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paul.j said...

DavidJohn said...

Great effort.. thanks for the pics.. We did one once that was about 50-60 klms.. (St Kilda to Mornington)

We have a DW run that's about 60-70 klms (Port Melb to Portsea) that we hope to do in about 3-4 hrs in a good wind..

Great to see him on the 14' Glide..

DJ


60-70 km in 3-4hours? Do know how fast that is!!!!!?



I wanted to know how fast that would be so I took the best or worst case scenario of 60kms in 4 hours. That's 60kms in 240 mins at an average of 4 minutes per km.

That is extremely fast and to average that speed you'd have to do much more than that to allow for breaks, falling off etc. Say 30 mins break totals, you'd need 3.5 min k's average to still make 4m k's total time.

Chris Bertish has averaged 6.17m k's on his long paddle and 8.25m k's the day after.

Iron Phil was averaging around 6m km's on his Kingscliff to Currumbin paddles in the lead up to Molokai which he done pretty well in. Around 5 hours for 50 ks. Not perfect conditions though.

David Kalama has the record for Maliko I think at 53:20 for 9.5miles (15.3kms) is an average of 3.47 minute k's. That's crazy fast! That's probably smoking Maliko with Dave on FIRE!


Not having a dig at anyone but very interesting to pull out the calculator and work out some average times.......



Towny
NSW, 903 posts
15 Apr 2011 9:12AM
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paul.j said...

DavidJohn said...

Great effort.. thanks for the pics.. We did one once that was about 50-60 klms.. (St Kilda to Mornington)

We have a DW run that's about 60-70 klms (Port Melb to Portsea) that we hope to do in about 3-4 hrs in a good wind..

Great to see him on the 14' Glide..

DJ


60-70 km in 3-4hours? Do know how fast that is!!!!!?



Thats what i was thinking

JonathanC
VIC, 1023 posts
15 Apr 2011 9:42AM
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Never underestimate a 14 Glide

And no one ever said DJ wasn't optimistic.....

DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
15 Apr 2011 10:31AM
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JonathanC said...

Never underestimate a 14 Glide

And no one ever said DJ wasn't optimistic.....


True and true... .. I guess we'll find out one day just how long it takes to do the Port to Port run...

DJ

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
15 Apr 2011 6:09PM
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JonathanC said...

Never underestimate a 14 Glide

And no one ever said DJ wasn't optimistic.....



In Vicco, there are 3 time zones:

AEST, which we observe through the winter months.
DST, which we observe through the summer months.
and DJT, which happens anytime DJ tells us when to meet or how long something is going to take.

Simondo
VIC, 8024 posts
15 Apr 2011 6:13PM
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Thanks PT !!

Adapt
QLD, 723 posts
15 Apr 2011 9:38PM
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I may be wrong but isn't Chris sponsored by Coreban?

PeterP
873 posts
15 Apr 2011 9:16PM
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thanks for replies - guess Laird and Dave holds the record then. Chris was averaging 9.7km/h on day one - thats calculated on total travelling time including stops to eat/drink - slower on second day due to hardly any wind.

Chris has done 13km/h average speed on our normal 10km run - which is still way off Daves 15km/h in Hawaii for a longer distance...

Greg Bertish is sponsored by Coreban - Chris by Naish.

LaPerouseBay
63 posts
16 Apr 2011 5:02AM
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CMC said...
David Kalama has the record for Maliko I think at 53:20 for 9.5miles (15.3kms) is an average of 3.47 minute k's. That's crazy fast! That's probably smoking Maliko with Dave on FIRE!



Dave K. is indeed amazing. One common misconception about maliko are the distances traveled. Most races start out on the water, about a half mile from the boat ramp. The races finish at the beach, sometimes with an added short run up to a finish line. This distance is about 9.5 miles. Some races start in maliko bay, finishing at the beach. This is about 10 miles.

The most common finish point when training is the breakwall entrance. On a nuking maliko run, the last half mile (breakwall to the beach) is a nasty side wind. 99% of the paddlers that record times start out to sea and stop at the breakwall. This distance is 9 miles.

Dave's 53:20 is at 9 miles (14.5 km) for an average speed of nearly 16.3 km/h. It's fun to run the numbers on the top paddlers. Truly amazing how fast they are.

Dave and Laird's Oahu to Kauai crossing took them about 20 hours. He has a neat entry about it on his blog titled 'posessed'. I hope he writes more about that crossing. I heard the conditions were very challenging - headwinds, rain etc.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
16 Apr 2011 10:38AM
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So.. My hope to do the Port to Port run within 4hrs seems do'able..

DJ

LaPerouseBay
63 posts
16 Apr 2011 1:58PM
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Yes DJ, spot on. If you do 65 k's at Dave's pace of 3:41/k, you will arrive at Portsea in 3:59:21.

I revisited Dave's website to re-read his entry on the Oahu-Kauai channel. It's a must read. www.davidkalama.com/2011/03/possessed/

His story dosn't say how long it is, so I looked it up. The Ka'ie'ie Waho channel (Kaena to Kapaa) is no less than 77.5 miles (125 kilometers). He does mention that it took them 22 hours.

Plugging that into my handy calculator reveals a pace of 10:34/k, average speed of ~5.7km/hr.

I'll bet your Port to Port speed will average out somewhere between these two extreme examples.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
16 Apr 2011 4:41PM
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Thanks Larry.. Plus the distance is a little less than I thought.. Maybe Port Melb. to Rosebud might be a better option on a true north wind.

DJ

PeterP
873 posts
18 Apr 2011 1:20AM
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reading posts above Chris could still be in for longest DOWNWINDER in one go? Dave's channel crossing sounds mental and may have included longest downwinder?
Anyways, cool to see the guys pushing the boundaries, Chris's run was pure downwind the whole way and I'll get a vid together with some highlights.

mikeman
QLD, 692 posts
18 Apr 2011 11:49AM
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Dale Chapman and I did our Byron to Burleigh downwinder (70km) over 2 years ago but I am sure that someone else would have done bigger downwinders that that by now. It took us 8.5 hours, which averaged around 8km/hr. Chris' time of around 7 hours is very doable as Dale and I were not paddling to try set any speed records.

I think those 2 girls that paddled the Oahu-Kauai channel (in around 24hrs, I think) would be in the running for this "record".

Towny
NSW, 903 posts
18 Apr 2011 12:16PM
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PeterP said...

reading posts above Chris could still be in for longest DOWNWINDER in one go? Dave's channel crossing sounds mental and may have included longest downwinder?
Anyways, cool to see the guys pushing the boundaries, Chris's run was pure downwind the whole way and I'll get a vid together with some highlights.


I'd still say Dave and laird's is still the benchmark and that was done years ago,
Good on Chris for doing what he did..

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
18 Apr 2011 1:09PM
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If the OP is asking specifically about DOWNWINDERs, then I don't see how the Laird and Dave or the two women and their island hop are relevant as neither was a downwinder. Surely a long distance paddle and a downwinder are quite different.



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