Jonathan's New Weapon

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PTWoody
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7 Apr 2011 3:54pm
Jonathan launched his new Starboard Open Ocean 14' this morning. I took a few snaps with it alongside it's predecessor, the 2010 14'. Seems to me the evil genius' at Starboard HQ have taken all the ideas that worked on the New, the 12'6 Surf Race and the old 14' and melded them together to create this beast.






















DavidJohn
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7 Apr 2011 4:06pm
Here's a few of my pics from today.. I got down there after you had left and took these pics showing it alongside my 14' Glide.. and the last pic shows Jonathan giving it a good poke to see what happens..

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doggie
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7 Apr 2011 2:33pm
What is the deal with the blunt nose? Wouldnt that push water?
DavidJohn
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7 Apr 2011 4:49pm
doggie said...

What is the deal with the blunt nose? Wouldnt that push water?


Same concept on the Clubie board at the Life Saving Clubs..

They shouldn't pearl because of all that volume.. But they do tend to go.. boof.. if you try hard enough..

DJ

log man
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7 Apr 2011 5:07pm
I don't know who's going to break the news to Jonathan......... but I think Warwick sold him a kayak!
doggie
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7 Apr 2011 3:15pm
DavidJohn said...

doggie said...

What is the deal with the blunt nose? Wouldnt that push water?


Same concept on the Clubie board at the Life Saving Clubs..

They shouldn't pearl because of all that volume.. But they do tend to go.. boof.. if you try hard enough..

DJ




Ok, I see. So the extra volume in the nose makes them "pop" up. Tbh I havnt looked closely at clubby boards since the last one smashed the rail of one of my boards
JonathanC
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7 Apr 2011 7:44pm
Well what a difference a few relatively subtle changes make. For a start the thing is absurdly stable, you are basically standing millimeters above the water line but the 4 drain holes and the shaped standing area keep it very dry, you do feel like you are stepping up a little when you go into surfing stance but after a couple of hours paddling I didn't even notice anymore.

The big difference is in the way the nose reacts, the old one had a lot of volume in the nose, maybe I pearled it once but not really - instead if you didn't step back it would just 'boof' into the wave in front and slow down. You could keep the nose clear but it was much more subtle , having to move back just enough to keep the nose clear but not too much so that you dropped off the wave. The new one has a much smoother entry, to the extent that today you hardly noticed getting on to the wave, just realized that you were (tiny waves!) but then the nose shape, rocker whatever just let's it keep going so effortlessly. So what that means is that it's much easier to keep the momentum up.

One of the other big changes is how far tucked under the rails are, looking side by side for most of the length that the rails are sharp the rail on the new one is probably an inch further under the board. In some ways it's almost a curved displacement rail, but it does have the sharp transition to the relatively flat bottom.

Doggie, the nose is basically a curved displacement shape, you don't really get the slap slap thing when you paddle upwind in chop to anything like the extent you do on a surfing type board, and even though it's a funny little blunt nose it does actually pierce quite effectively.

I paddled upwind about 10k and the wind got progressively weaker, when I turned around I'm sure it was less than 10 knots and the water was just crappy little bay chop but it was totally catchable and the length of the glides was the thing that really amazed me. The nice bonus was that it was so surfy when you got on the wave too.

Look I'm totally biased, sponsored by Starboard, but in the crappy little waves we had today this board just blew me away. Just feels like a whole new level of refinement. STOKED!! and 30 knots on Saturday.....
Surfrod66
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7 Apr 2011 7:54pm
Whats the width? looks pretty wide?
laceys lane
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7 Apr 2011 8:16pm
it's interesting that fanatic and now starboard are running edges a fair lenght up the board from the tail- like to half way and a bit more.

jonathan, will the 12'6s get that new displacement nose. i think it would be a plus for the boards from mpov after trying a 'surf' last year -the water just looked untidy up there, but the photos show some refinement in that area
cheers
PTWoody
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7 Apr 2011 8:40pm
Seem to be pearling the nose ever so slightly in this shot.




camo hosk
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7 Apr 2011 10:01pm
PTWoody said...

Seem to be pearling the nose ever so slightly in this shot.







Looks like it attracts Sharks
laceys lane
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7 Apr 2011 11:12pm
pretty funny
JonathanC
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7 Apr 2011 11:21pm
Surfrod66 said...

Whats the width? looks pretty wide?


It's labelled as 28" wide, haven't actually measured it though.
JonathanC
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7 Apr 2011 11:28pm
laceys lane said...

it's interesting that fanatic and now starboard are running edges a fair lenght up the board from the tail- like to half way and a bit more.

jonathan, will the 12'6s get that new displacement nose. i think it would be a plus for the boards from mpov after trying a 'surf' last year -the water just looked untidy up there, but the photos show some refinement in that area
cheers


Haven't seen the new 12'6 yet so not sure what they have done re the nose, funny thing is that this board is actually very similar in many ways to the 2010 Surf Race 12'6, just seems that they have done a lot of work on refining the nose shape to get a really smooth entry onto the plane. I guess the devil is in the detail with these shapes.

Glad I didn't have the polaroids on today, didn't see my little play-mate beside me!
bigmc
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7 Apr 2011 11:44pm
When I saw that shadow, I was wondering if you had done some Photoshopping. Obviously not .... bit of a worry
faito anto
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8 Apr 2011 12:26am
Seriously, is that shark photoshopped?
DavidJohn
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8 Apr 2011 1:37am
It's good to see Starboard changed their fin on this board.. But with a 23" race fin coming stock on it there'll be no paddling in shallow water.. .. kidding.

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JonathanC
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8 Apr 2011 8:27am
faito anto said...

Seriously, is that shark photoshopped?


Yes! I hope....
akhawk
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8 Apr 2011 6:56am
Hey Jonathan, in that last shot, either you make that board look huge or it makes you look tiny
DavidJohn
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8 Apr 2011 9:03am
akhawk said...

Hey Jonathan, in that last shot, either you make that board look huge or it makes you look tiny


Board big?... Yes..

Jonathan tiny?... Yes..

Actually it's the slight distortion of the wide angle lens..

See how big the board looks when viewed from the rear..

DJ





JonathanC
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8 Apr 2011 9:13am
akhawk said...

Hey Jonathan, in that last shot, either you make that board look huge or it makes you look tiny

That's funny Hawkie, my old girlfriend used to say something like that, never understood what she was on about...
CMC
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8 Apr 2011 9:20am
I wonder if they will ever get to the point of venturi flaps on the drain holes. These holes and the way they are angled will actually suck the water off the deck but venturis or super suckers would be even quicker.

I wouldn't mind a paddle on this one, looks good.
PTWoody
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8 Apr 2011 9:26am
DavidJohn said...








Most unfortunate paddle technique in that last photo.
DavidJohn
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8 Apr 2011 9:30am
PTWoody said...


Most unfortunate paddle technique in that last photo.


Looking at the top hand possition he's thinking about other things..

DJ

Gorgo
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8 Apr 2011 9:56am
Hey Jonathan can you comfortably carry the board with those handles? Is it well balanced?


bigmc said...

When I saw that shadow, I was wondering if you had done some Photoshopping. Obviously not .... bit of a worry


I'm guessing photoshop


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