Jimmy Lewis / Starboard Advertising

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stoddart
stoddart
NSW
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NSW, 7 posts
14 Feb 2012 1:46pm
Just to clear the air on the subject. JIMMY LEWIS is telling it how it is and how it all came about.
QUOTE JIMMY LEWIS
"Svein 'cleared things up?' Karen Baxter 'spelled things out?' I'll spell it out simply and things should be clear after everyone reads this. I've seen that most everyone of you guys have very objective and rational minds and can come to common sense conclusions after knowing FACTS. Here are the facts: I made Connor Baxter that board because he and his family were friends of mine. The reason I didn't put my name or logo on it was BECAUSE I knew that Connor was going to put Starboard logos on it and I did NOT want my logo on any board that had a Starboard logo. I put the value of my friendship with Connor and his family ahead of this conflict of interest (my making a custom board for a competitor's star rider). I KNEW that this board would get Starboard logos. No problem there. And I assumed that pictures would be taken of Connor ripping on that board and most likely appear in the REGULAR pages of magazines (Keith sent me some WICKED shots of Connor riding and Connor IS hot in the surf. I'd say every bit as hot as he is on a raceboard). Again, no problem there either. The problem was when Starboard used a picture of THAT board performing in conditions that THEY don't have a board for and represented that it was one of their boards. And the reason, Karen Baxter, was for Starboard to sell their boards AND make money. That kind of advertising is not only uncool, as most of you will agree, it is against the LAW in America, and I'm SURE it's against the law in Australia. A European friend of mine pointed out that in Europe this is not only a civil offense but a CRIMINAL offense too. I would never have made Connor a board if it was understood by me that Starboard would photoshop the board with the graphics of a board that they were trying to sell. Starboard wants to sell boards, just as I and other brands do. Why? To make money!! That's right Karen Baxter, to make money!! Starboard's answer to me the FIRST time they used my board in their ad was to say that they were trying to give Connor and the photographer some exposure. WHAT? You've got to be kidding me? They pay THOUSANDS of dollars for a back page ad to do a few guys a favor? Not to try to sell boards? Starboard is so narcissistic that they thought that this was an acceptable explanation for the first offense.
Svein's response for the second (current) offense that 'cleared things up' was only an attempt of damage control by blaming me for what happened (something about my not telling them to destroy the photos so it was my fault that another ad appeared). And how he worded the title of his response "my long time good friend, Jimmy Lewis (David) is attacking Starboard (Goliath) for no reason' was designed to gain sympathy for Starboard. And his claims that it was a mistake and he didn't know anything about what happened and that we should just forget about it and have a hug and go paddling!!! What's laughable about that is NOT that he made those statements but that some people will be satisfied with that as an explanation. He's the head of the company... how could he not know about it?
Contrary to what Karen Baxter is trying to convince you of, that this is all me getting money (of course Karen Baxter survives on love.... you can tell by her sweet disposition in her post), the demands we made of Starboard this time were similar to last time and the only monetary demand on this issue was that Starboard make a donation to the Surfrider Foundation. I'm not asking Starboard for any money as compensation for this blatant illegal advertising. This was NOT a mistake as Starboard would like everyone to believe and even if anyone is gullible enough to believe that Svein didn't know this happened a second time, as head of Starboard he must take full responsibility. And Starboard HAS to get spanked a little bit this time. Svien PROMISED ME PERSONALLY, after the first offense that this would NEVER happen again. Starboard doesn't take out double page ads for any other reason than to make money. When they take out deceptive ads, whether intentionally to deceive or not (how can anyone think that Starboard doesn't give careful thought about what they're putting in their multi thousand dollar ads?) it's against the law and creates an unlevel playing field for other competitors in the same business. This is all about business and has nothing to do with Connor or his family as Karen Baxter would like you to believe. I've been shaping for a long time and I'm very proud of my shapes and what I've accomplished in the sports of surfing, windsurfing, kiteboarding and stand up. My success in ALL 4 of these disciplines speaks for itself. It's a fact which I'm proud of and it's my responsibility to all of my distributors who work hard (yes, to make money) promoting boards that I make, to protect my brand. And I'm going to do it.


Towny
Towny
NSW
903 posts
NSW, 903 posts
14 Feb 2012 3:49pm
ding ding round 2
husq2100
husq2100
QLD
2031 posts
QLD, 2031 posts
14 Feb 2012 3:07pm
I think Svein and Jimmy should paddle out at the Alley and sort it out once and for all..........
hilly
hilly
WA
8120 posts
WA, 8120 posts
14 Feb 2012 1:27pm
Sorta on Jimmy's side in this one.

I loved this sb ad

Scotty88
Scotty88
4214 posts
4214 posts
14 Feb 2012 1:28pm
husq2100 said...

I think Svein and Jimmy should paddle out at the Alley and sort it out once and for all..........


But who gives way to who again ?
husq2100
husq2100
QLD
2031 posts
QLD, 2031 posts
14 Feb 2012 3:33pm
Scotty88 said...

husq2100 said...

I think Svein and Jimmy should paddle out at the Alley and sort it out once and for all..........


But who gives way to who again ?


I think the rules say Svein should give way to Jimmy, But I think its 80% responsibilty of Jimmy to give way to Svein due to the fact that Svein didnt know.....[}:)]
HumanCartoon
HumanCartoon
VIC
2098 posts
VIC, 2098 posts
14 Feb 2012 4:34pm
Scotty88 said...

husq2100 said...

I think Svein and Jimmy should paddle out at the Alley and sort it out once and for all..........


But who gives way to who again ?


No one gives way:



(slightly off-topic, but could this be where Connor got the idea for his choke stroke??)
husq2100
husq2100
QLD
2031 posts
QLD, 2031 posts
14 Feb 2012 3:45pm
hes a teenage male, Id say he has been choking it for a while....
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
14 Feb 2012 2:29pm
Who gives a sh!t, let them fight it out in court. Clowns
towball
towball
4634 posts
4634 posts
14 Feb 2012 2:52pm
Making a board & not naming it knowing it's getting a SB label is just asking for trouble . You make a board put your name on it ,if the kid doesn't like tuff
jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
14 Feb 2012 2:55pm
doggie said...

Who gives a sh!t, let them fight it out in court. Clowns


My vote is for the Alley aswell..
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
14 Feb 2012 3:06pm
jbshack said...

doggie said...

Who gives a sh!t, let them fight it out in court. Clowns


My vote is for the Alley aswell..


Court/Alley = same
lagoongarage
lagoongarage
58 posts
58 posts
14 Feb 2012 3:41pm
une tempête dans un verre d'eau ?
CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
14 Feb 2012 5:44pm
lagoongarage said...

une tempête dans un verre d'eau ?


Storm in a tea cup.
Janbruun
Janbruun
NSW
246 posts
NSW, 246 posts
14 Feb 2012 6:51pm
Paddles at 50 paces
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
14 Feb 2012 4:39pm
Janbruun said...

Paddles at 50 paces


Jousting

Even better. WaveJet jousting
SUPcuz
SUPcuz
82 posts
82 posts
15 Feb 2012 3:59pm
anyone have a link to said 'ad'? this is very interesting.
dtm
dtm
NSW
1610 posts
dtm dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
15 Feb 2012 7:10pm
hilly said...

Sorta on Jimmy's side in this one.

I loved this sb ad




Hilly is this a real ad?? Best I've ever seen!!!
husq2100
husq2100
QLD
2031 posts
QLD, 2031 posts
15 Feb 2012 6:37pm
that picture is CLEARLY a photo chop (SB with a paddle "painted" in his hands)
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
15 Feb 2012 7:37pm
dtm said...

hilly said...

Sorta on Jimmy's side in this one.

I loved this sb ad




Hilly is this a real ad?? Best I've ever seen!!!


Yeah.. That was a real Starboard SUP ad.. Starboard thought that no one would notice a little paddle photoshopped into a surfing picture.. Yeah right... and what were they thinking?..

DJ
dtm
dtm
NSW
1610 posts
dtm dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
15 Feb 2012 10:19pm
husq2100 said...

that picture is CLEARLY a photo chop (SB with a paddle "painted" in his hands)


yeah i no that ... i meant was it a real starboard ad? I thought it might have been something Hilly mocked up? Would been shocked that would even try that above pic??
hilly
hilly
WA
8120 posts
WA, 8120 posts
15 Feb 2012 8:29pm
dtm said...

husq2100 said...

that picture is CLEARLY a photo chop (SB with a paddle "painted" in his hands)


yeah i no that ... i meant was it a real starboard ad? I thought it might have been something Hilly mocked up? Would been shocked that would even try that above pic??


Was taken straight from the brochure and website
dtm
dtm
NSW
1610 posts
dtm dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
16 Feb 2012 2:03pm
Hey that's best ad I've ever seen
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